Tired of Waiting for the CRV

rational

I'm really getting tired of waiting for the CRV we ordered. We had chosen it for the resale value, nice ride, room without being overly large. It was really to replace our old Opel Astra.

Any suggestions on what else we can buy?

BeerhandBop

hyundai and kia suvs,

or the OLD xtrail
or mitsubishi outlander
or rav4.

ford escape
mazda tribute..

guy101

how long is the waiting time for the crv? I think even the new city is still out of stock, since both cars are new model, limited pa din ang stocks. I also heard fortuner is also running out of units or it depends lang siguro sa color.

HansMon

Boy do I feel ya. I ordered mine in May and was told Mid-july that their best effort was end of August.

I ended up getting a Fortuner instead. Ordered the color I wanted on Friday, got the unit on Thursday of the following week. By the way, they fixed the whole "matagtag issue" with the 2007 models.

FYI lang po.

gonefishing

^^^really? never heard of it..ano daw ginawa nila?

BeerhandBop

they must've gotten rid of the leaf springs, maybe?

OTEP R

I'd never wait for a Honda. Who do they think they are? God's gift to earth?

Dami namang ibang sasakyan sa Pilipinas. hehehe.

Of course, some people will contend that the holy 'H' badge is worth the wait.

Just go with whatever floats your boat.

The Tucson 4x2 Spec up units (SRS, ABS, backing sensors) for just an additional Php30k over SRP sounds very tempting to me. The ABS alone is worth more than Php30k already.

BeerhandBop

"I'd never wait for a Honda. Who do they think they are? God's gift to earth?

Dami namang ibang sasakyan sa Pilipinas. hehehe.

Of course, some people will contend that the holy 'H' badge is worth the wait.

Just go with whatever floats your boat."


the fortunner also once had a 6 month wait list.

yung trooper, the [email protected]$$ sales reps were 'black marketing' their units as well. ( + 50k under the table, or get teh ridiculous financing package with the ridiculous interest amount).

i know about that because my dad got a Trooper that way. he waited 4 long months without an 'available unit'.

but sa gencars, there was one available - but only thru financing. (interest was an ungodly 300k for 1 short year). they wouldn't let you put more than the minimum down. (for maximum intereztz). They wouldn't sell it to you in cash. (sorry, chinese think about the total purchase price after interest. that's 300k more you have to pay. that's 300k more worth of work you have to do to pay for the vehicle.)

then a friend mentioned about the 50k extra that some sales rep are doing. i called up isuzu commonwealth, mentioned that on the phone, rep tells me, he'll call back in 10 minutes. and he did. and we picked the unit up in 3 hours. (srp was 1,630,000.)

atleast with honda, it's an honest wait.

the civic's wait naman ended soon din, diba. Plus civic is locally assembled pa. just wait out. this is what happens when a car comes out. in a few month's time, those agents will be the ones begging you to buy.

this is what happened when the xtrail came out, this is what happend when the mazda 3 came out.
this will also happen with teh corolla.

shun_sakurai

gonefishing wrote: »

^^^really? never heard of it..ano daw ginawa nila?

If that's true, then it's most likely Toyota just retuned the Fortuner's suspension for more on-road compliance.

For people who never take their SUVs off-road (which would mean most of us, admit it), that's a fair enough trade.

slamm

OTEP R wrote: »

I'd never wait for a Honda. Who do they think they are? God's gift to earth?

That's the reason why we didnt push through with our new Civic order before and got a second hand Corona instead. I didnt like the way the dealer made us wait (they didnt pay much attenetion to us by at giving courtesy of answering our queries for the status of our car after the promised time has lapsed) and they're soo friggin stingy when it comes to discounts and freebies... and they always push their brand to be high-fallutin (BTW, i drive and older Civic model which i got second hand).

Other options? I'd take a good look at the Fortuner and Hyundai Sta. Fe over the CR-V as well. The new Outlander also looks very nice.

rational

Thanks all for the advice! I did seriously look at the Fortuner kaya lang much more expensive. With the others naman, the high resale value of the CRV seems to trump all. Kasi nga, the next effective price comes out to be much lower if the resale value is high.

What you think of the Escape? Low price kaya lang nga the low resale value of the Fords continues to baffle me.

HansMon

shun_sakurai wrote: »

If that's true, then it's most likely Toyota just retuned the Fortuner's suspension for more on-road compliance.

For people who never take their SUVs off-road (which would mean most of us, admit it), that's a fair enough trade.

Bullseye sir. At least that's what the toyota service guys told me when I took my unit in for the 1000k check-up. Putting nitrogen in your tires helps too.

BeerhandBop

"Thanks all for the advice! I did seriously look at the Fortuner kaya lang much more expensive. With the others naman, the high resale value of the CRV seems to trump all. Kasi nga, the next effective price comes out to be much lower if the resale value is high."


ganun ba kamahal ang fortunner?

the 2.0L crv is 1.2M

the 4x2 fortunners are around 1.3to 1.4, diba??

200k isn't that big difference you know.

HansMon

BeerhandBop wrote: »

"Thanks all for the advice! I did seriously look at the Fortuner kaya lang much more expensive. With the others naman, the high resale value of the CRV seems to trump all. Kasi nga, the next effective price comes out to be much lower if the resale value is high."


ganun ba kamahal ang fortunner?

the 2.0L crv is 1.2M

the 4x2 fortunners are around 1.3to 1.4, diba??

200k isn't that big difference you know.

^^Especially if you are financing it. With 30% down, the difference in montly payments over 60 months is about 1000 pesos. And since we are talking about brand new cars, you can go the full 60 month term.

Ps Bank and East West have pretty good rates FYI.

shun_sakurai

+1 on the Hyundai Santa Fe. It's amazing how good this thing looks (a huge leap from the first model), and it's reportedly a cracking drive too.

Very tall people should steer clear of it though as they might find the interior a little cramped.

rational

BeerhandBop wrote: »

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200k isn't that big difference you know.

Thanks but if the resale values of our two previous cars (Astra and Lynx) weren't so bad then maybe I could say the same thing. But, the CRV is already a stretch and P200k can buy a heck of a lot of other things especially if you factor in interest costs.

No one has comments on the Escape?

BeerhandBop

"Thanks but if the resale values of our two previous cars (Astra and Lynx) weren't so bad then maybe I could say the same thing. But, the CRV is already a stretch and P200k can buy a heck of a lot of other things especially if you factor in interest costs."


if you write with that tone... that kind of says that you're not supposed to be buying a 1.2Million peso vehicle. but... that's just my opinion.

the astra and the lynx are fairly new model cars. the lynx was just 1 model ago. and the astra is late 90s/ early 00s vehicle naman eh.

i think it's better if you opt to stay with your current vehicle. as long as it gets you from point a to point b. and it gets you there comfortably enough, that's good enough reason to stay with your older vehicle.

the money you saved up could be better used elsewhere like investments, you know. And earn money off it.

I'm sorry, i'm not trying to be a financial adviser.Pero being chinese, i see money used to buy cars as money you should be able to afford to lose. that cars are never investments. they're expensive possessions is what they are. and nothing else.

and if you find it hard to even shell out 200k when you can afford 1.2M... that says, that you're gonna be spending a big amount of your fortune into that car. and that's just wrong.

again, i'm just speaking my mind. and i'm not telling you what to do.

but all i'm saying is think about staying with your older but still useful cars.

goodbeachboy

i dont know but...there is this new honda dealer which i visited and the sales agent was telling me he can get me a crv AT in a weeks time. Of course, i dont believe him...pero he explained small dealers usually have short list of waiting crv customers and their allocation is same as bigger honda dealers...so nadedeliver raw kaagad ung mga units.....

i dont know if this is true...

like the thread starter....i lost my patience with Honda on the new CRV

rational

BeerhandBop wrote: »

"Thanks but if the resale values of our two previous cars (Astra and Lynx) weren't so bad then maybe I could say the same thing. But, the CRV is already a stretch and P200k can buy a heck of a lot of other things especially if you factor in interest costs."


if you write with that tone... that kind of says that you're not supposed to be buying a 1.2Million peso vehicle. but... that's just my opinion.

the astra and the lynx are fairly new model cars. the lynx was just 1 model ago. and the astra is late 90s/ early 00s vehicle naman eh.

i think it's better if you opt to stay with your current vehicle. as long as it gets you from point a to point b. and it gets you there comfortably enough, that's good enough reason to stay with your older vehicle.

the money you saved up could be better used elsewhere like investments, you know. And earn money off it.

I'm sorry, i'm not trying to be a financial adviser.Pero being chinese, i see money used to buy cars as money you should be able to afford to lose. that cars are never investments. they're expensive possessions is what they are. and nothing else.

and if you find it hard to even shell out 200k when you can afford 1.2M... that says, that you're gonna be spending a big amount of your fortune into that car. and that's just wrong.

again, i'm just speaking my mind. and i'm not telling you what to do.

but all i'm saying is think about staying with your older but still useful cars.

Oh I can afford it. The thing is, where do I draw the line. The way car prices go, there's always something better at 100t or 200t more. If I go for a 1.4m vehicle then there's probably something at 1.6m etc. etc. My line is at 1.2 M. As you said, the car must be disposable income.

As for the Lynx and the Astra. Well, the Lynx was good but we've sold it to my mom (which is probably the reason for the low resale price ). Then, you can ask any Astra owner. It's a good car but maintaining it is a pain-in-the-@ss. What with Autoworld behind you.

So, time to move on for us.



Talagang no comment on the Escape? Bakit ba talagang ang baba ng public image ng Ford?

shun_sakurai

The Escape would have been a good choice, but I've heard plenty of mishaps. One of my mom's clients claimed it caught fire while refueling.

Mishaps aside, this is the biggest nail in the coffin: The Escape/Tribute is at least five or six years old. No matter how Ford or Mazda advertises these SUVs as brand-new, with the spruced-up looks and fancy center console, mechanically they just aren't. And the Escape/Tribute was never best of the breed.

Why it's being spruced up this late with no real replacement in sight...I'd actually recommend the Everest instead.

It's not just restricted to our shores either: the "new" US Escape is just as old and it even drives worse than the original models because of more weight.

mrpathetic

I've been waiting for the CRV 2.4L also...the 4x2 manual daw is faster to have. Kaya lang the difference, my dad refuses to give deposit and line up for one. he's just gonna wait daw till those sales people come chasing him. hehe.

If I were in a rush, id' get a Camry instead. But then, at 1.4M, that money only gets me the lowest end Camry. And I don't want that because it's just so "bare."

Now if only I could sway my dad to get the GMC Suburban I saw in the ads. 12k kms. 4x4. P650. A steal!