Mitsubishi Pajero Vs Nissan Patlol Super Safari

Killer Angel

Between the Mitsubishi Pajero(3.2L(Diesel Variant)And 3.8L(Gas Variant))and Nissan Patrol(3.0L(Diesel Variant)And 4.8L(Gas Variant)),which SUV would you choose?And why?Which has better performance and is more reliable when used on-road and for off-road at the same time?What are the pluses and minuses of the each of them?
Thanks.

the_BuGs

question eh gagamitin mo ba talaga pang offroad???

BeerhandBop

both aren't used for off roading at all.

and secondly, the patrol is ancient.
so the win goes to the Pajero.

kenshinflyer

The Pajero is proven in the Dakar Rally countless times, as proven by their many Championship titles. The Toyota Land Cruiser, the Volkswagen Touareg, even the Hummer H2 were outclassed by the Pajero's performance.

Kaya pag ako'ng tatanungin, Pajero pa rin.

I haven't heard of a Nissan Patrol surviving the gruelling Dakar.

BeerhandBop

^ The Dakar Rally Pajero isn't the same as the one being sold for the consumer market, you know.

so you can't use the dakar rally as an example.

the_BuGs

Problema lang sa PAJERO yung ON Road handling nya... at parehong mabagal lang sila ng Nissan patrol... pero pag Off Road underrated na best din sya na makukumpara mo sa Land Cruiser aminin man natin o hindi mas malakas ang benta ng Land Cruiser kaysa sa Pajero...

beerhandbop : sorry ah.. kasi dito mostly(halos lahat) mga 4WD dito pinang-o-offroad talaga kaya mabenta ang Land Cruiser dito dahil proven na sa mga private owners.. pati Hyundai Galloper lumalaban din sa Offroading...

BeerhandBop

^ I'm sorry if you live in the middle east where sand is a plenty.
pero here in the metro kasi, SUVs are treated as "royal chariots" eh.

and since taga pinas sya, i expect na he'd use the SUV as a "royal Chariot"

yun lang saken.

the_BuGs

^^ iniisip ko kasi baka dalhin nya sa Pampanga

hindi lang naman sa middle east hinaharabas ang mga 4x4 eh mga crossover SUV's lang kasi pinangjajaporms sa kalye


Well back on topic.. Reliable ang Pajero...

BeerhandBop

hindi naman galit ang mga tao sa pera eh. ang parejo sells for close to 3M. why would you drive a 3M vehicle in the dirt for?

F-22 Raptor

by the way,in regards to this comparisson between the patrol and pajero,is this only about the diesel variant version or also about the gas variant version?you see,i am also debating between getting either one of them but in the gas variant version.I was assuming that the patrol would be faster as it has a more powerful engine as it is 4.8 litre as compared to the pajero which is only 3.8 litre.Is this true?also,what are the pros and cons of the patrol over the pajero and vice versa?
T.I.A..

the_BuGs

BeerhandBop wrote: »

hindi naman galit ang mga tao sa pera eh. ang parejo sells for close to 3M. why would you drive a 3M vehicle in the dirt for?

sabagay... parang bumili ka ng laruan pero hindi mo naman lalaruin

mas masarap lang kasi yung feeling ng nag-dridrive sa Offroad kapag 4x4 sasakyan mo...


kahit 4.8 liter pa yung makina ng patrol.. mabagal pa rin dahil sa bigat ng kaha nya... sa highway yung mga humaharurot na patrol parang hirap na hirap tumakbo ng mabilis kahit nasa 150Km/hr na...
isa pa sobrang lakas sa Gas nyan 4.8 liter... eh kung pang city driving lang pwede na yung Pajero na 3.0 Liter or 3.8 Liter.

kenshinflyer

BeerhandBop wrote: »

^ The Dakar Rally Pajero isn't the same as the one being sold for the consumer market, you know.

so you can't use the dakar rally as an example.

Oh, but some of the technologies used there applies to the road car. Ne? That's the purpose of them races and motorsport and rally thingees--to discover and test new technology for road-going cars.

Kung ako lang, I'll get myself a Pajero on that basis.

the BuGs wrote:

...Reliable ang Pajero...

Oo nga pala, Bugs: yung Hyundai Galloper eh Pajero yun, rebadged as a Hyundai.

And I prefer the diesel Pajero. Sus, pag gas, parang bumili ako ng taling pambigti... Sa lakas naman ng kunsumo... Typical SUV.

BeerhandBop

"Oh, but some of the technologies used there applies to the road car. Ne? That's the purpose of them races and motorsport and rally thingees--to discover and test new technology for road-going cars.

Kung ako lang, I'll get myself a Pajero on that basis."


Kung yung STi nga has very little in common with the Rally Car eh. yung dakar rally car pa kaya?

OTEP R

Techonology does trickle down. What we consider as normal features on cars nowadays ultimately started in racing two or more generations ago. Don't expect the jump from motorsport to street to be a simple one but it does happen.

The water jet spray for the Subaru's intercooler is one of those things. Similar system has been used in racing for ages yet its only beginning to appear on street cars.

Present day turbochargers used on more pedestrian vehicles are tougher and more reliable because of lessons learned in motorsport.

The independent suspensions (F and R) of the current Pajero are derived from the older generation Pajero EVO.

The biggest decal on last year's Dakar Pajero was VALEO. VALEO is a parts supplier for a lot of manufacturers and they use racing as a test bed for future products. They make lock motors and other small components. Other suppliers like Aisin, Denso, etc. also participate in motorsports.

BeerhandBop

yeah. pretty soon, we'd get monocoque designed corollas/ civics just like teh F1!!

also, f1 will soon be using biofuels. that, i liek.

kenshinflyer

Besides, the Nissan Patrol looks like a tank, heheheheh, lalo yung old Safari Model, parang may congenital hip dysplasia (sakang).

OTEP R

I drive a Nissan Patrol and I will not recommend it to anyone unless they also love Nissan Patrols.

If you just want day to day transport, I think iuuntog mo ang ulo mo sa pader everytime you take a drive in a Nissan Patrol.

kenshinflyer

And that's the point: The Nissan Safari is a tank. I think it can handle armor...