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Taglish? sosyal nga ba?!

alvurnheeyhaalvurnheeyha Thinking aloud! PExer
Originally Posted by sd amboy....
"Magtatanong lang po mga ka-Pexers. Sa tingin niyo ba ay maraming kabataan ngayon na hindi talaga marunong managalog o talagang sinasadya lang mag-taglish/tanglish upang magkaraoon ng dating na sila ay "konyo" o "sosyal"?"

From "Tanglish" thread. What do you think people?
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  • damnrightdamnright I feel it in my fingers.. ♫ PExer
    sa tingin ko yung iba nakakalimutan lang yung tagalog na term kaya nagsiswitch sa english which makes their sentences taglish. pero yung iba talagang sinasadyang mag-taglish para magmukhang sosyal kuno. no way! kasi kung talagang sosyal ka straight english ka, hindi mixed. akala lang nila social sila pero yun pala 'social climbers'. pwe! :rotflmao:
  • volkyrivolkyri Member ✭✭
    http://www.answers.com/taglish?nafid=3
    Taglish, a portmanteau of the words "Tagalog" and "English" is a mixed language in the Philippines, that is infused with English terms. Taglish is perhaps most common in Metro Manila, where its use has become stereotype. Its influence has nevertheless become great, as it is now arguably a lingua franca in many parts of the country.

    http://www.answers.com/englog?nafid=3
    Englog, sometimes Enggalog, is a portmanteau of the words "English" and "Tagalog", is an informal creole in the Philippines. It is formed by infusing Tagalog words into English, an example of which is called Konyo English.

    Konyo English
    A type of Englog —English with some Tagalog words—is called Konyo English. Konyo or co?o is a neologism that refers to certain stereotyped affluent sectors of society. These people are often considered to be the children of affluent families. They are often typically identified by their variant of English that introduces Tagalog words. The word konyo itself came from the Spanish co?o (an all-purpose profanity whose meaning, in modern usage, varies with context).
  • RunningAwayRunningAway I'll never let you find me PExer
    hindi lang naman taglish ang meron. kung tutuusin kahit dito sa ibang bansa, ganyan rin. ang mga salitang hindi nila kayang sabihin sa sarili nilang salita, ginagamit nila ang ingles.
  • gflipgflip Member PExer
    :rotflmao: Hindi naman ibig sabihin pag nag-tataglish ka na ehh "konyo"/"sosyal" ang isang tao.:hmm:
    :p Makikita mo naman sa tao kung siya ay "social CLIMBER:rotflmao: " sa kanyang pagsasalita..Minsan kasi ung iba "exaggerated" masyado. :rotflmao:
  • ErebosErebos Offspring of Chaos ✭✭✭
    Originally Posted by sd amboy....
    "Magtatanong lang po mga ka-Pexers. Sa tingin niyo ba ay maraming kabataan ngayon na hindi talaga marunong managalog o talagang sinasadya lang mag-taglish/tanglish upang magkaraoon ng dating na sila ay "konyo" o "sosyal"?"

    From "Tanglish" thread. What do you think people?

    Manalog, oo. Pero magsalita ng Filipino, HINDI. Mas marami pa rin sa atin (kabataan man o hindi) ang mas nakauunawa (at mas naipahahayag nang mabuti ang sarili) gamit ang wikang Filipino.

    Hindi man ako pabor sa Taglish, hindi ko rin naman sila hinahamak at pinararatangan ng kung anong mga negatibong salita. Para sa akin, hindi sapat na batayan ang paraan ng pagsasalita (o ang ginamit na wika) upang sabihing ang isang tao ay 'social climber.' ;)
  • DaRk._.SoULDaRk._.SoUL DaRkNeSs rOamS... PExer
    Well for me... it depends on how people say it. There are times that I heard people speaking Taglish in the sense that they do it per word in a sentence.. That irritates me a lot and sometimes I can't help it but stare at them in a different way. Well considering that some people, no matter how they put it, they are really trying hard to be on the top amongst others who speak the native tongue... feeling that when they speak english, they are one the priority list of some sales representatives in malls or even in calls.

    Admit it, we have this attitude of trying to match on how they speak it with their looks. Like if you are caucasian (or foreigner at that), then people talks to you in english where in fact that you know how to speak Filipino. Or, the worse is, if you look like a typical Filipino, then suddenly you speak in English, then people tend to stare you badly, criticizes each of the words that you blurt out and at times, critizice you on your pronunciation or even grammar... I got that impression before... to be honest..
  • clawed_outclawed_out Banned by Admin PExer
    here we go again...


    oh yes, they are so soshyal.

    like those sosyhal climbers. wanna go like soshyal climbing tomorrow? like bukas ha? :glee:
  • lilsweetcottonlilsweetcotton Queen Member PExer
    no! it irritates me... i heard someone at starbucks saying "where's your car parked? and then the girl said "it's in the dulo" .. it annoys me coz many english-tagalog combination that match well, but there are also some word combi that annoy me...... and using taglish doesnt mean they are sosyal...no!.. it's much better if you use plain tagalog or straight english but taglish with an intonation of being so pasosyal and pa-cute, for pete's sake, give me a break! well, it depends also...
    i see girls who speak taglish that don't match with their looks.......!
  • 24242424 Guest PExer
    Social climbing is a pain in the a$$, i dont know why people do it.
  • kisses_00kisses_00 Member PExer
    no. it's not sosyal at all. it sucks! its one way for me to call someone "social climber". i don't care if you're studying along Taft avenue, San Lorenzo in Makati even Katipunan! i think your school is not one determinant for you to speak that way. but, if you still insist that your school is this or that, then you should be speaking in straight English... i believe you school have intensive English 101 curriculum.

    peace! chill!
  • JeLJeL Member PExer
    nope..everybody can speak taglish...natural sa'tin yun, nakalakihan na...

    yung paconyo, bagay man o hindi sa nagsasalita, nakakainis...
  • gundamgundam DEITY PExer
    One of my teacher calls it "a sign of intellectual indolence." He says that speaking in Taglish means that one is not thinking things through before saying anything. Once, he even shouted at a student who spoke Taglish during class recitation.

    Pero ewan ko, hirap mag-speak nowadays pag hindi Taglish e. Hahaha.
  • JeLJeL Member PExer
    wait, ano bang taglish pinag-uusapan dito? yung 1 to 2 words, gagawing english, for example, "pakiclear ng table", or taglish like speaking in alternate tagalog and english?

    Anyway, i just realized something, yung first na sinabi ko, for me, acceptable siya, kasi minsan me mga tagalog words na hindi nga natin alam ang tagalog o kaya minsan nabubulol tayo o sa kahit ano dahilan.

    Ngayon ko lang naintindihan yung sinasabi nila na "kung tagalog, tagalog. kung ingles, ingles lang dapat. Ang panget pala pakinggan na nagtatagalog ka na, bigla ka pa magiingles, marami kasi ako naeencounter na ganyan pero binabalewala ko lang. Ngayon lang bumabalik sa akin.

    I remember, kwento nung kapatid ko lalaki. May interview siya sa APAC nun, tas yung mga agents dun, ang yabang yabang daw kumilos porket dun sila nagwowork. May padaan na dalawang lalake, tas yung isa lalake, sinasabi niya dun sa kasama niya na mabuti daw yung kape sa katawan, parang ganun..in tagalog yun. Tas bigla singit ng ingles eh palpak naman..parang ganito, "Alam mo pare, mabuti ang coffee sa tin, it perks, it perks up, it perks...(stuttering) parang ganun..sabi nung kapatid ko sa sarili niya "o ano, ano, buti nga sa'yo"... kung pure english siya nagsalita tas dun sa last statement na yun lang siya pumalpak, forgiveable. Pero kung nagtatagalog ka and you try na magpaimpress by konting english, pero pumalpak, "Ang yabang mo kasi!!! " :rotflmao:
  • giacomocasanovagiacomocasanova Tainted by scandals. PExer
    All I know is... it's a lot harder to speak in pure tagalog than speaking in english.

    Also, as an additional to the social climber topic... real rich people doesn't show, doesn't try, doesn't even tell people that they are rich. They don't need to. While these 'bobo orcs" as cofibean would say, will try to be one and will surely show that they are one... yet they're not. sheeez
  • sd amboysd amboy A true hybrid PExer
    Like I mentioned in the other thread, I have no problem with people inserting an english word when there is no native tagalog equivalent. I know it is more difficult to speak in straight tagalog but it can be done. Our ancestors did it so why can't we? We should be proud of our language(s). When you mix languages such as is done in taglish, you basterdaize both languages and it also shows you have no command of either. If you do have command of both, then why would you mix them?
  • khayelakhayela DenHEART 4Lyf PExer
    basahin nyo lahat ng post nyo... pinaghalong tagalog at english.... so ano problema nyo ngayon? lahat ngayon taglish na talaga... kahit nga nanay nyo or lola pah... ibang genaration na tayo, so learn to deal with it... goodness, pati ba naman ito pagiisipan nyo pa ng kung ano ano... walang ibig sabihin kung mag taglish man ang mga tao... nasa TONO ng pagsasalita yon... social climber social climber pa kayong nalalaman... hindi ba english yon??? 2007 na... so go with the flow na kayo... ang labo nyo!
  • khayelakhayela DenHEART 4Lyf PExer
    sd amboy wrote: »
    Like I mentioned in the other thread, I have no problem with people inserting an english word when there is no native tagalog equivalent. I know it is more difficult to speak in straight tagalog but it can be done. Our ancestors did it so why can't we? We should be proud of our language(s). When you mix languages such as is done in taglish, you basterdaize both languages and it also shows you have no command of either. If you do have command of both, then why would you mix them?

    eh bakit english ka ng english dito sa post moh.. ikaw proud ka ba sa language mo... mukhang hindi eh! kung oppose kayo sa taglish, then wag kayong gumamit nito... puro kayo salita, gamit naman kayo ng gamit! learn to stand on what you believe in.... kaso, di nyo kaya no??? 2007 na nga kasi eh... ibang generation na ito! ito ang reality ng buhay... second language natin ang english... so what is the problem???
  • sd amboysd amboy A true hybrid PExer
    khayela wrote: »
    eh bakit english ka ng english dito sa post moh.. ikaw proud ka ba sa language mo... mukhang hindi eh! kung oppose kayo sa taglish, then wag kayong gumamit nito... puro kayo salita, gamit naman kayo ng gamit! learn to stand on what you believe in.... kaso, di nyo kaya no??? 2007 na nga kasi eh... ibang generation na ito! ito ang reality ng buhay... second language natin ang english... so what is the problem???

    O bakit? Ingit ka ba na tuwid ako mag-ingles? O baka naman naiinis ka dahil may katotohanan ang mga sinasabi ko. :rolleyes:
  • khayelakhayela DenHEART 4Lyf PExer
    sd amboy wrote: »
    O bakit? Ingit ka ba na tuwid ako mag-ingles? O baka naman naiinis ka dahil may katotohanan ang mga sinasabi ko. :rolleyes:

    wag kang magagalit sa akin... im just trying to make a point! tapos naman ngayon straight ang tagalog mo... hindi ako maiingit sayo or kahit kanino.... wag kayong mgagalit.... bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan wag magagalit... ang magalit ay pikon...! we all are entitled for our own opinion.. sinasabi ko lang naman... you're very good nga eh! kahanga-hanga ang english mo... kaya lang patukoy sa pagiging proud sa tagalog language natin pero, you explain it sa english eh... mas maganda kung ginamit mo yung pinagmamalaki mong language which is tagalog... sorry kung medyo nagliyab ang init ng ulo moh! :grrr:
  • sd amboysd amboy A true hybrid PExer
    khayela wrote: »
    wag kang magagalit sa akin... im just trying to make a point! tapos naman ngayon straight ang tagalog mo... hindi ako maiingit sayo or kahit kanino.... wag kayong mgagalit.... bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan wag magagalit... ang magalit ay pikon...! we all are entitled for our own opinion.. sinasabi ko lang naman... you're very good nga eh! kahanga-hanga ang english mo... kaya lang patukoy sa pagiging proud sa tagalog language natin pero, you explain it sa english eh... mas maganda kung ginamit mo yung pinagmamalaki mong language which is tagalog... sorry kung medyo nagliyab ang init ng ulo moh! :grrr:

    Hindi ako galit.....*peace*

    Paki-basahin na lang po itong sinulat ko sa kabilang sinulid. Opinyon ko lang po. :D

    Sasagutin ko ang tanong mo sa pamamagitan ng ibang tanong: May iba bang bansa na pinag-hahalo ang kanilang wika sa ingles katulad ng taglish? Sa obserbasyon ko, wala. Bakit? Dahil hindi kailangan gawin yun. Kung nais mo magsalita ng ingles, eh di mag ingles ka ng tuwid. Kapag taglish ang salita mo, lumalabas na hindi ka marunong mag tagalog o kaya ingles ng tuwid, o maarte ka. Ok lang sa akin na gumamit ng english word pa minsan minsan kung walang katutubong tagalog na salita tulad ng computer, nuclear, digital etc.....Ang nakakainis ay ang tao na sinasadyang haluin ang dalawang wika kahit wala naman dahilan.

    You can understand naman how baduy that is 'di ba? :p
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