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Workout Precautions

This thread is specifically addressed to gym owners and/or personal trainers but anyone can participate.

In terms of health, what precautions do you do before a client signs up for your gym? Do you take his medical history? Do you take his BP? Do you have him cleared first by MDs before they can workout? Do you know how to perform BLS?

Or do you just let him sign a waiver?

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  • stepehenyan@12[email protected] PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    pinagaralan ko bls (basic life support) sa redcross dati using a dummy. sa fitness first meron nung ekek na check up kung kukuha ka ng personal trainer. pag hindi me pakialam sila sa members sa totoo lang!!!. kasi kung talaga desidido sila dapat bago nila inalok ng membership dapat ni require nila ang resulta ng executive chekup sa laboratory if you are fit to work out. e di naman talaga ganon nangyayari pera lang habol nila para mabawi nila overhead cost sa pagrenta sa the block.
  • It's the responsibility of those who join to make sure that they are in decent physical condition. That's always one of the main guidelines in any gym contract.
  • blakedaddyblakedaddy Moderator PEx Moderator
    Always assure they are clered by the doctor and have no injuries or conditions that would prevent them from working out
  • So blakedaddy, if they were not cleared by the MD, you won't let them join the gym?

    massmonster: i know it's the responsibility of the client to be in a good condition to work-out. Yung problema nga lang pag may naramdaman na, or naging obese na, saka sila mag woworkout without knowing na meron na pala sila sakit sa puso. Thus working out aggravates the heart condition further.

    stephenyan: sa fitness first, they just ask you some questions. tapos BP lang
  • The problem with just plain history taking is that they can always deny. They can deny they have an existing heart condition, or any other medical problem.
  • Yes, I agree with you that some people start working out when the damage has already been done. A wise course of action is to take things one step at a time so that they won't overwork themselves. Start conservatively and work yourself up. :)
  • It's about as simple as this internationally:

    "If someone joins a gym, they sign a waiver which basically tells the gym that they have been medically cleared to exercise and the gym is not responsible for anything bad that happens unless there was clear negligence involved." In other words, it is basically a "given" that the person was medically screen which clears the gym of a duty to "screen" the client. Obviously if there is clearly something wrong with the individual, the gym managament has a duty to ask the client to produce some form of proof that they are medically cleared to exercise. This is one form of possible "negligence" loophole, but it is difficult to prove vs. the gym since it can often be subjective.

    This is client vs. gym.

    It is a whole different story when it is client vs. personal trainer who is hired exclusively. Then there is a whole new dimension of liability...and in the States it part of the reason why personal trainers are so expensive. They have to spend for a great deal of insurance because someone is basically hiring them and trusting them with their well-being...especially in the one-on-one setting. If the trainer is not paying attention and the person gets hurt...or doesn't take proper precautions for a "high-risk" individual...uh oh.
  • stepehenyan@12[email protected] PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    here's one of the club rules of FITNESS FIRST with regards to Physical Condition of member safety.

    The member warrants and represents that he or she is in good physical conditiona and that he or she knows of no medical or other reason why he or she is not capable of engaging in active or passive exercise and that such excercise would not be detrimental to his or her health, safety, comfort or physical condition. The member further represents that he or she suffers from no physical impairment that would prevent his or her use of the club's facilities or adversely affect his or her decision to participate in any activity at the club.

    c) The use of all facilities within the club is entirely at the risk of the member. Use of the specialist facilities within the club may result in harm to the user, especially if the user is not familiar with the proper use of particular facilities. A member should not use any of the facilities if or she is not familiar with the safe and proper use thereof.

    how come there's no mention of a personal trainer to assist in the machine in the club rules of fitness first. looks like there playing safe from lawsuit instead of assisting members who could not pay a 1:1 powerpack.
  • here's one of the club rules of FITNESS FIRST with regards to Physical Condition of member safety.

    The member warrants and represents that he or she is in good physical conditiona and that he or she knows of no medical or other reason why he or she is not capable of engaging in active or passive exercise and that such excercise would not be detrimental to his or her health, safety, comfort or physical condition. The member further represents that he or she suffers from no physical impairment that would prevent his or her use of the club's facilities or adversely affect his or her decision to participate in any activity at the club.

    c) The use of all facilities within the club is entirely at the risk of the member. Use of the specialist facilities within the club may result in harm to the user, especially if the user is not familiar with the proper use of particular facilities. A member should not use any of the facilities if or she is not familiar with the safe and proper use thereof.

    how come there's no mention of a personal trainer to assist in the machine in the club rules of fitness first. looks like there playing safe from lawsuit instead of assisting members who could not pay a 1:1 powerpack.


    They are "safe" but the trainers are ripe for a lawsuit under the "proper" conditions. There have been instances already where FF could have been sued for negligence but they were able to mitigate the situation. In other words, a member brought a problem to their attention, but they didn't do anything about it until someone was nearly hurt. They keyword was nearly. In this case it was at Robinsons Place where a weight fell from the 2nd floor after a member warned about the danger but there was nothing done. Luckily when a dumbbell or a weight plate (don't know the exact details) fell, nobody was close enough to be hit. If someone had been hit after the member gave a warning of danger, then there is a serious lawsuit in the making, and the "waiver" they signed is not really enforceable in court.
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