MIGRATION: For the sake of your kids?

obiwan

As Parents.....considering the crime, bad economy, lack of jobs, political instability, things generally getting worse by the year.........have you considered migrating ( for the benefit of your children's future?)...assuming you had the chance?

as for me, when i was single, i was not inclined to, but now when i look at my kids, i worry for their future since even graduates from the top schools are having a hard time getting decent jobs.......and to think that in 20 years, our population will hit 120 million!

your thoughts......

Sweetkay

It's an option ... I'm not keeping any doors closed ...

dighay

same here, specially if you have little girls...crime rate here in our country is getting high everyday.

purpleheadd07

so where could be the best/crimeless place to go?

tina11

No place is absolutely safe - there are crazy, troubled people in every country in the world - but what's scary about crimes in the urban areas in the Philippines is that they're committed out of desperation for money and food. And the number of desperate people is growing day by day.

I've migrated but I would still want to move back to the Philippines some day, if only to give my daughter a chance to get in touch with her Pinoy roots.

Sweetkay

purpleheadd07 wrote:

so where could be the best/crimeless place to go?

From what I gathered on the net, it's Singapore, Norway, Finland, and Canada.

sweetwahm

Hehe, the hard part is getting there. Out of the four mentioned above, we've only been to Singapore, and that was for vacation.

obiwan

its true that there is crime everywhere but when you factor the number of crimes per 100,000 people, the philippines has a higher rate compared to the "open for migration" countries such as canada, Australia, and N Zealand....

sweetwahm

obiwan, you're in Canada na, right? I remember reading in the Immigration to Canada thread. Tindi din ng pinagdaanan nyo no? --- the time and money spent. I'm sure its all worth it...

tina11

The "best places to live" results released by UN are based on things like literacy rate, life expectancy, etc. Scandinavian countries score high on those but you also have to consider that you'll have a hell of a time looking for work if you aren't fluent in the local language, not to mention mahirap mag-fill out ng forms, mag-shopping, etc

I think Canada, Australia, the US and the UK are still the best bets for Pinoys looking for migration options.

orano

Ako din when I was still a student never kong inisip na magmi-migrate ako, kami ng magiging family ko. Napaka-idealistic ko pa nun...

Pero totoo that when you start having kids, it's the time that you really start to ask yourself "eto ba ang gusto kong makalakihan ng anak ko?"...

We've been living here in Singapore since 2003. My daughter was born here. We didn't plan on settling here pero dun din napunta. I like the cleanliness here... kami pa naman, may lahing asthma. Feeling ko kung sa Pilipinas lumaki ang anak ko, impossibleng di kami maglabas-pasok sa hospital dahil sa asthma attacks nya.

Gusto ko rin dito yung fact na lalaki yung anak namin na mulat na di lang Filipino ang existing na nationality sa mundo. Here she gets to minggle with kids from other cultures.

Gusto ko rin dito yung proximity sa mga places like piano, ballet and kung anu-ano pang lessons. Dyan sa Pinas, kahit gusto mong i-expose ang anak mo sa mga ganito, kahit may pera ka, you might get lazy to enroll them kasi ang lalayo! Bukod sa malalapit ang mga centers dito (almost every community has these kind of centers) eh relative sa earnings ng mga tao, hindi considered na luxury yung pag-enroll sa mga ganitong activities.

And biggest consideration namin why we're staying here and not elsewhere is because of the Asian culture. We're thinking we'll still go back to Pinas once we've achieved our financial goals, we're not really thinking of settling here. Adjustment for our kid will be easier if we're coming from Singapore and going back to Pinas than say coming from the US or Canada.

purpleheadd07

Kaya nga I opt to rear my Xan in the province, i find life here in the metro too complicated. ma traffic, maalikabok, magastos and nakakatkot nga esp as far as crime is concerned. at least Pilipinas pa din. mahirap kse when you migrate is first of course the opportunity, inde nman ganun kadali eh. i keep on saying nga kung sino ba nman kse nag imbento ng visa. and crime is everywhere, kayo na din nga nagsabi what if all the other citizens will realize that they too are not safe in their countries eh d mag mimigrate din sila. tapos lahat na gustong mag singapore, canada, new zealand, etc. eh d magulo na din dun d ba? labo ko ba? wala lng, i just believe that the best place for our kids to grow to would be our own home which is filled with love and respect. sguro i minimize na lang ang mga external ill factors.

tina11

orano: Marami bang Filipino families in Singapore? I know some people who went there for jobs but once they started their families umuwi din sa Pilipinas When I was a student I used to say that I wanted my kids to be streetsmart, marunong sumabit sa jeep at maglakad mag-isa sa Quiapo hehe. But like most of you guys said, it's a different story once you actually start having kids.

purplehead: Ganoon nga siguro nangyayari sa US, saturated na rin yata sila sa immigrants kaya mahirap na makapasok... but some countries, like Canada, actually need more people to fill gaps in their labor force.

obiwan

sweetwahm wrote:

obiwan, you're in Canada na, right? I remember reading in the Immigration to Canada thread. Tindi din ng pinagdaanan nyo no? --- the time and money spent. I'm sure its all worth it...

actually i was about to apply but saw that it would take 4 years....eh since i am kinda impatient na, i decided to apply for australia (1 year only)...

the nice thing about these countries is that you can easily get their citizenship in 2-3 years only...then once you are a dual citizen, you can decide to stay or come back to manila, this way your kids can have the best of both worlds and can easily live and work in either country....

its really a different story now, for the past 30 years, it was the blue collar workers who were leaving the phil....now it is the skilled workers, engineers, doctors, teacher, IT, even rich business owners....even the President of Apple (Macintosh) Philippines, left for canada 2 years ago, it was in the headlines of the business section....his reason was simple, he was doing it for his kids....

admittedly it is hard at first but once you are settled, most people dont regret the move...

smooth05

Ako din, I wasn't thinking of migrating, masarap kasi sa Pinas, lapit sa friends and family. di naman ako pressure sa work and Ok naman ang pay, nakakabili pa ng mga bagay ng gusto kong bilhin kaya kung baga, I'm a little bit contented, there was a little freedom...financially . But that was before, when we only have 1 kid. Ngayon 3 na..Schooling na din yung eldest ko, medyo mahal ang tuition P50k per school year, hirap na kami, isa pa lang yun...:) . Medyo inisip ko rin kasi yung future ng mga bata with regards to education. Ayoko naman i sacrifice yung education nila and the things they need to enjoy life para lang makapag stay dito. If only merong benefits sa Pinas na free schooling and maganda yung quality ng education at may allowance. talagang di na ko aalis. Ayoko umalis dito..hehehe sad to say wala e. Mahirap mag migrate kasi mahal and mabusisi maglakad ng papers, and yung adjustment period mo pagdating sa ibang countries pero on the other hand, when I think about the "quality of life" migrating can provide me and my family I think it's worth it naman (yung pagod and sacrifices), tiyaga lang nga sabi nila. But still, babalik at babalik pa rin ako ng Pinas, if ever matuloy kami, we're going to file our application this year..:) God bless the Filipino people!

obiwan

smooth05 wrote:

Ako din, I wasn't thinking of migrating, masarap kasi sa Pinas, lapit sa friends and family. di naman ako pressure sa work and Ok naman ang pay, nakakabili pa ng mga bagay ng gusto kong bilhin kaya kung baga, I'm a little bit contented, there was a little freedom...financially . But that was before, when we only have 1 kid. Ngayon 3 na..Schooling na din yung eldest ko, medyo mahal ang tuition P50k per school year, hirap na kami, isa pa lang yun...:) . Medyo inisip ko rin kasi yung future ng mga bata with regards to education. Ayoko naman i sacrifice yung education nila and the things they need to enjoy life para lang makapag stay dito. If only merong benefits sa Pinas na free schooling and maganda yung quality ng education at may allowance. talagang di na ko aalis. Ayoko umalis dito..hehehe sad to say wala e. Mahirap mag migrate kasi mahal and mabusisi maglakad ng papers, and yung adjustment period mo pagdating sa ibang countries pero on the other hand, when I think about the "quality of life" migrating can provide me and my family I think it's worth it naman (yung pagod and sacrifices), tiyaga lang nga sabi nila. But still, babalik at babalik pa rin ako ng Pinas, if ever matuloy kami, we're going to file our application this year..:) God bless the Filipino people!

is this your first and only post in 4 years???

anyway, the sacrifice is really on the parents....btw, countries like canada and australia, aside from education and healthcare being free...they even give you a montly allowance of $200-$300 per month PER CHILD!

and in Australia, they will even pay you $4000 just to give birth, again all expenses pa are free....

as for preparing the documents, it really takes time and effort, but for those who really want a better life, preparing the documents is not really a concern, the concern is getting approved and preparing for the big move...

another thing to add is that if you want to apply in the near future, i suggest to do it asap, Australia and New Z have already raised the criteria in applying, it is getting harder and harder to pass the points every year....

obiwan

what is worrisome is that nowadays, even if you come from UP La Salle ateneo, you are not sure of getting a good job.....can you imagine what it will be like 20 years from now when our population will be 120 million?

the philippines has been the basket case of asia for the past....what...35 years? at the rate we are going, my forecast is it will be status quo for the next 20 years or so....

splicergurl

My hubby and I are seriously considering leaving for another country. Di namin option ang US dahil siguradong forever ang ipaghihintay namin. We want to go somewhere na magkakasama kami agad. The reason is we want our kids (we have a 3-month old baby and I have another daughter from a previous relationship) and our future kids to be comfortable eventually. We're doing ok naman dito but things are not exactly great.

For those families with little kids who migrated, how did you solve the issue of childcare? I'm a WAHM now and I'm assuming I will have to take on a regular job to make ends meet if we do push through sa pag-alis. Friends have advised me na mahal daw daycare sa ibang bansa. How did you solve this problem?

Mahirap ba talaga mag-migrate? We've been checking the websites of the countries we want to go to, parang nakaka-overwhelm plus di kami kasama sa skills shortlist, will it be difficult for my hubby and I to look for jobs? We're both in the field of Advertising/PR and Mktg. Communications. I've been planning to study Medical Transcription since last year, and I was thinking if it would help sa paghanap namin ng trabaho if I push through with my plan to enroll.

We're looking at NZ, btw.

Ice Burn

One of the reasons me and my husband went to Manila was for the prospect of starting a family (kung pagpalain at magkaanak kami) because the family values in the US, well is very different and not really to my liking.

My husband came from a broken family and was raised in the US and absolutely dislikes the family values in the US. He's very much impressed with how intact family values are here in the Philippines.

We haven't really fully decided in settling in the Philippines though. Even with his office opening here, it's not a guarantee that he'll be assigned in Manila forever. Not to mention, my career path has been working for Multilateral agencies which is why I might get assigned somewhere else too. But one thing's for sure, if we do decide to settle here we think the family values here in the Philippines compensate for a lot of things.

DaNa8

splicergurl, my sister and her family has recently migrated to NZ. Last July umalis yung ate ko, then yung hubby nya on October at sumunod yung kids just last January. They requested to have different shifts on their jobs para they could look after the kids. Mahal nga kasi ang nanny care dun. Ganun talaga, konting sacrifice muna hanggang sa makapag-adjust sila.

elzsea

Same as others, when I was single I didn't want to move in to other country because I know that no matter how bad it gets here, my family are here but when I got married and had a baby, I considered migrating to give my kid (and future kids) a better life, I want her (them) to have options and more opportunities when they grow old. Now I'm on the first step and hopefully everything will flow according to our plans.