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1. What is a woman's role in the church?

Correct answer: D. (A woman is never to open her mouth in church. She has nothing valuable to say and should limit her participation to asking her husband to explain things to her) "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" (1 Corinthians 14:34-35).


2. What is a woman's role in the educational process?

Correct answer: C. (Women should never be teachers because they are easily deceived) "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" (1 Timothy 2:11-14).


3. Is a wife permitted to follow her own conscience?

Correct answer: C. (A woman must obey her husband in all matters at all times) "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their husbands in every thing" (Ephesians 5:22-24). "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God" (1 Corinthians 11:3). "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord" (Colossians 3:18).


4. In God's eyes, who is worth more between women and men?

Correct answer: B. (God expressly says men are worth more, and actually provides dollar amounts proving this) "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation. And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary. And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. And if it be from sixty years old and above, if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female, ten shekels" (Leviticus 27:1-7)


5. What is the role of a widow?

Correct answer: B. (She should be depressed and pray day and night) Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth" (1 Timothy 5:5-6).


6. How long is a woman unclean after the messy act of childbirth?

Correct answer: D. (The woman is unclean for seven days if the child is a boy, but she is unclean for twice as long if the child is a girl) "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days . . . But if she bare a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks" (Leviticus 12:1-5).


7. What are the requirements for a woman's physical appearance?

Correct answer: D. (A woman must dress modestly and refrain from wearing expensive jewelry and a woman should wear her hair long) "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" (1 Timothy 2:9). "But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering" (1 Corinthians 11:15).


8. Can you trust a woman's promises or guarantees?

Correct answer: D. (No, because women are deceitful and manipulative and because a woman's promise is null and void if her husband disapproves of it) "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her" (Ecclesiastes 7:26). "But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the Lord shall forgive her" (Numbers 30:12).


9. Under what circumstances are we to spare the life of a married or engaged woman who has been raped?

Correct Answer: D. (When the woman is raped in the country as opposed to the city or when the woman is a slave girl) "If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out onto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city . . . But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die . . . For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her" (Deuteronomy 22:23-27). And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free" (Leviticus 19:20).


10. In times of war, what is God's plight for women in the captured areas?

Correct Answer: D. (While the men are to be killed, the women are to be taken as slaves. Pretty women are to become the wives of conquering men who find them attractive. Women in places the Lord gives His chosen people as an inheritance are to be killed along with every other living thing) "And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones . . . shalt thou take unto thyself . . . But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth" (Deuteronomy 20:13-16). "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies . . . And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house . . . thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife" (Deuteronomy 21:10-13).
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  • barbaric...
  • duplicate....
  • you have to know the background of the authors of the bible and what culture and tradition they were exposed into.
  • God is absolute. God does not change.
  • you have to know the background of the authors of the bible and what culture and tradition they were exposed into.

    you don't. these were written upon direct guidance by God, who is perfect. so it doesn't matter what background they're from.
  • rickymrickym PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    i always here that answer, that it depends on the times. but what kind of times would justify that. to give an example how about these other instances.

    http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter10.html
    Chapter 21 of Exodus provides us with some very detailed instructions from God on women and marriage. For example, in the instance that a father sells his daughter to another man who is not pleased with her, she must be redeemed. Regardless of the amount of satisfaction that the girl provides for the man, God’s rules still allow him to acquire another wife. If he so chooses, the first wife is not allowed to leave unless her master refuses her food, clothing, or other marriage duties (Exodus 21:7-11). These words would later serve as justification for men, such as King David, who had hundreds of wives and concubines. We’ve also learned in this passage that women are to be sold as slaves and treated as sex objects. If you dislike this conclusion and still believe the Bible to be the divinely inspired word of God, you must either unwillingly follow God’s derogatory and dehumanizing orders or take an opposing position against the almighty.

    The demoralizing instructions for daughter selling aren’t the only rules of marriage that God sanctions. If a man decides he no longer wants to be married to his wife, he can attempt to have her killed by claiming that she lost her virginity prior to their marriage. Following this accusation, the woman must then provide sufficient physical evidence, such as a bloodstain, to demonstrate that his accusations are fraudulent. In the event that she fails to prove her innocence of this “crime,” she is to be stoned to death because of this utmost act of disgrace. Guilty until proven innocent is the law within God’s court. Any woman who accidentally tears her hymen due to an injury or other non-sexual act is simply out of luck because she could never prove her virginity. Thus, she would be at the mercy of her husband throughout her entire life. If evidence is produced to exonerate the woman in question, the accuser is fined a couple pounds of silver and forced to stay married until death (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). In this case, what does the man really have to lose?

    and how about his rules and regulations
    http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter9.html
    Anyone who goes uncircumcised is to be exiled from his people (Genesis 17:14).

    If a man has sex with a menstruating women, both are to be exiled (Leviticus 20:18).

    A man who marries a mother and daughter must burn in a fire (Leviticus 20:14).

    If two men have sexual relations, both must be put to death (Leviticus 20:13).

    If a mother and son have sexual relations, both must be put to death (Leviticus 20:11).

    If a man and daughter-in-law have sex, both must be put to death (Leviticus 20:12).

    If a man has sex with an animal, both must be put to death (Leviticus 20:15).

    If a woman has sex with an animal, both must be put to death (Leviticus 20:16).

    Anyone who attacks his mother or father must be put to death (Exodus 21:15).

    Anyone who curses his mother or father must be put to death (Leviticus 20:9).

    Anyone who commits murder must be put to death (Leviticus 24:17).

    Anyone who commits adultery must be put to death (Deuteronomy 22:22).

    Anyone who commits perjury must be put to death (Deuteronomy 19:18-19).

    Anyone who commits kidnapping must be put to death (Exodus 21:16).

    Anyone who disobeys a judge or priest must be put to death (Deuteronomy 17:12).

    Anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death (Exodus 35:2).

    Anyone who does not worship God must be put to death (2 Chronicles 15:13).

    Any strangers approaching a sanctuary must be put to death (Numbers 17:7).

    Any prophet who tries to turn you against God must be put to death (Deuteronomy 13:5).

    Any prophet who makes a wrong prediction must be put to death (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).

    Family members who tempt you with other gods must be put to death (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

    If an ox gores someone, the ox and its owner must be stoned to death (Exodus 21:29).

    Anyone who claims to talk with spirits must be stoned to death (Leviticus 20:27).

    A stubborn and rebellious son must be stoned to death (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).

    Any woman who has had premarital sex must be stoned to death (Deuteronomy 22:21).

    Anyone who worships another god must be stoned to death (Deuteronomy 17:2-7).

    Anyone who curses or blasphemes must be stoned to death (Leviticus 24:14-16).

    Break the neck of your donkey’s firstborn or kill a lamb instead (Exodus 34:20).

    If a city worships other gods, kill everyone in it and burn it (Deuteronomy 13:12-16).
  • but these rules are written by desert people...
    they have to have to keep their ladies in check,
    or else they will lose them to the more "exciting" gentile peoples...
  • don't forget the gentile black people...

    once you go black, there's no going back.. :lol:
  • and don't forget the black jesus

    black jesus was cool...
  • please enlighten me, but i always doubt the relevance of such hate threads as this.

    that is, what the hell are people trying to prove besides that the bible has provisions that are not applicable to us or to the modern times? who really cares if the bible literally says this or that but the stupid, the demonizers or the minority fundamentalists?

    or, in case this threads seeks to disprove or discredit god, why refer to antiquated "misgivings" of god - that the atheists do not believe to exist anyway? - thereby making the attributions pointless?

    or, does anybody think that by doing this thread, the believers will actually be converted into renouncing god? maybe unless one can prove that the mainstream christianity actually practices all or most of the above obsolete punishments.

    but no, let us remember that christian countries champion the elevation of women in the forefront of superstructures like politics, religion and other leading roles. take Maria and the hundreds/thousands of woman-saints for example - that is, regardless of what the bible says about women.

    let us thank god that the mainstream christianity is highly liberal, for otherwise it will become a terrorist religion as what the demonizers may want to portray it to be.

    and we should in fact just be happy that the only violence(?) the wacko protestants and fundamentalists do is to whack each other in national TV.

    notice: almost all movie / TVshows these days have token f/a/g/g/o/t/s. you will see f/a/g/s in the carnivals and beauty parlors unharmed. teenagers these days confess in blogs and net forums that at one time or another they had their d/i/c/k/s s/u/c/k/e/d by a f/a/g. or that a particular stud nailed his menstruating sweetheart - and nobody cares, its their private life.

    dig deeper into the net and you will find all kinds of bestiality, even ladies allowing to be f/u/c/k/e/d by dogs or cows; people eating each others excreta (not in the bible!, heheh....) - and nobody stones them to death.

    reading into this thread make me smirk and think that the wise in this realm contributes because they have some thing to say, while fools post away just to say something.
  • rickymrickym PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    i don't know about the thread starter, but if i start a thread like this, i would want to ask the christians to please explain how on earth they can reconcile those passages with the idea that the bible is about love. isn't that better than reading it then disliking the bible? i would show it to you and please tell me, maybe there is something that i missed.

    so what do you think.
    is the old testament god different from jesus?
    did god make a mistake?
    is morality relative and treatment of women during that time was allowable because women were inferior?
    or are those passages all metaphors.

    please answer in all sincerity. if you saw those passages in some other religions spiritual book would you side with it or not.
  • duh.

    maybe you could answer your own questions in all sincerity before we do.

    that way, we might be able to find some use for you in this modern, pragmatic times.

    again, as for me -

    if you think god is just a slimy little twerp, dont stoop to his level.

    think, feel. do not just be a slave of what you read in the bible or other religious books for that matter. use your common sense.

    learn the past, but live the present. be a part of the solution, not the problem.
  • The problem is that christians claim that it is only their god that is true. All else are wrong.

    If you can not stand up and defend such a god then why believe? God does not change. God is not relative. God is absolute.

    If the stories in the bible were to be made into a movie then im sure it would not even be approved by our censors.

    You can not accept only the New Testament and reject the Old Testament.

    We are a part of the solution. We are asking people to think about their faith. We are showing them why we think they are wrong.

    Im an atheist. How bout you? Why do you believe? Why do you believe in a God that teaches the following posted above? Everything above is part & parcel of being a christian. Why do you think did it take almost 2 thousand years before we even allowed women to vote?

    What is the present? The christian present? If you follow christianity then follow the Bible. Everything in it is supposed to be the word of God right? Scripture? Infallible. Inerrant. You can not be a cafeteria christian and choose only what you like. The fact that you can not do so because it violates your self formed opinions of what is moral and right does not mean that you are right and the bible is wrong. If you accept that the bible is primitive in this modern times then why believe everything that is written on it in the first place?
  • thank you very much for the acknowledgment that this is one hate thread. i have seen better than your offerings though.

    follow christianity, follow the bible, word of god, infallible scripture. part of the solution by showing what is wrong - please dont get me started to a fit of laughter, atheists would be the lamest resource about faith. just as lawyers are the lamest resource about medicines.

    if you are so intelligent about faith, why it is now taking you people thousands of years and you still cannot convert a dent? why is the rise of religions remain unchecked?

    the last real atheists i know just crumbled in the 1990s after sucking dry their country's respective economies. the chinese atheists rose as a potential superpower only when the businesses of more vibrant non-atheists began to patronize its economy in the 1990s to present.

    at one time or another i meet respectable, decent atheists. had sex with one or two of them and they are quite lively, delicious people. i am glad they are not so grouchy or something as you as if a stick is up your a/s/s all the time.

    now i am almost sure you are dumb**** as to all other world faiths so this sole fixation to christianity - whom you must actually thank for tolerating your folly. as i say, it is a highly liberal faith, so i promise not to cut your head or burn down your house any day after this.

    because in case you are genius also about, say, a faith other than christianity, you would have copied and posted too its holy book here for scrutiny just the same. or maybe you are afraid that they might not be so courteous like the christians.

    sorry, the mainstream christianity that the world recognizes has no more claim to exclusive salvation. and i am happy to tell you that that may also be in the bible. try to find it, i am not a bible slave like your brand of atheism, you know.

    so you must be talking about another religion concerning exclusivity of salvation. you just dont have the courage to question all the other religions for the same reason i am indicating above.

    except maybe if your models of christianity are manalo and soriano. please dont take the minorities seriously. just like the minority atheists, the world religions do not take atheists seriously.

    prove god? we are in a world where far, far more than the majority believes in god. i regret to tell you that in the real world, i.e., outside the bubble that you live in, it is a tyranny of the majority in here.

    but if you are so zealous about the subject, why not prove instead that god does not exist. the world might believe you, but i dont promise it.

    as for now that the world is free to enjoy whatever it wants to believe, please do not burden us with such useless, if not counterproductive, proposition. its either you get a life, or at least get a real job to enjoy yourself while you still live.

    because after you live, it is the end for you.

    to the faithfuls, at least there is hope.
  • st.angerst.anger PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    thank god i have my IPUs.
  • sa samar, waray gad
  • perkins wrote:
    thank you very much for the acknowledgment that this is one hate thread. i have seen better than your offerings though.

    follow christianity, follow the bible, word of god, infallible scripture. part of the solution by showing what is wrong - please dont get me started to a fit of laughter, atheists would be the lamest resource about faith. just as lawyers are the lamest resource about medicines.

    if you are so intelligent about faith, why it is now taking you people thousands of years and you still cannot convert a dent? why is the rise of religions remain unchecked?

    the last real atheists i know just crumbled in the 1990s after sucking dry their country's respective economies. the chinese atheists rose as a potential superpower only when the businesses of more vibrant non-atheists began to patronize its economy in the 1990s to present.

    at one time or another i meet respectable, decent atheists. had sex with one or two of them and they are quite lively, delicious people. i am glad they are not so grouchy or something as you as if a stick is up your a/s/s all the time.

    now i am almost sure you are dumb**** as to all other world faiths so this sole fixation to christianity - whom you must actually thank for tolerating your folly. as i say, it is a highly liberal faith, so i promise not to cut your head or burn down your house any day after this.

    because in case you are genius also about, say, a faith other than christianity, you would have copied and posted too its holy book here for scrutiny just the same. or maybe you are afraid that they might not be so courteous like the christians.

    sorry, the mainstream christianity that the world recognizes has no more claim to exclusive salvation. and i am happy to tell you that that may also be in the bible. try to find it, i am not a bible slave like your brand of atheism, you know.

    so you must be talking about another religion concerning exclusivity of salvation. you just dont have the courage to question all the other religions for the same reason i am indicating above.

    except maybe if your models of christianity are manalo and soriano. please dont take the minorities seriously. just like the minority atheists, the world religions do not take atheists seriously.

    prove god? we are in a world where far, far more than the majority believes in god. i regret to tell you that in the real world, i.e., outside the bubble that you live in, it is a tyranny of the majority in here.

    but if you are so zealous about the subject, why not prove instead that god does not exist. the world might believe you, but i dont promise it.

    as for now that the world is free to enjoy whatever it wants to believe, please do not burden us with such useless, if not counterproductive, proposition. its either you get a life, or at least get a real job to enjoy yourself while you still live.

    because after you live, it is the end for you.

    to the faithfuls, at least there is hope.


    My my.... I think somebody here needs a drink :rolleyes:
  • essex wrote:
    My my.... I think somebody here needs a drink :rolleyes:

    ah, ok. if you say so.
  • perkins wrote:
    ah, ok. if you say so.

    That's the spirit...
  • you are most welcome; thank you very much.

    and congrats for your 259 one liners.
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