Mitsubishi MONTERO

mackay_09

What can u say about this? I'm planning to buy kc eh...pls help

OTEP R

There are three generations of Montero. So which one?
GEN I 1984-1991 Started the worldwide SUV craze (though Jeep still insists that their Cherokee sparked the trend Stateside)
GEN II 1992-1997 Tonka-look. What I drive.
GEN II.5 1998-2001 Blister-fender. Popularly called the Field Master
GEN III 2001-present The latest model. Techno-packed flagship. Monocoque construction, IFS, IRS, M-ASTC, ABS, EBD, the works. Seems like a car on paper but performs surprisingly well off-road (tested na sa Tanay, Rizal).

Then there's the Montero Sport. Based on the Strada platform but with a coil spring rear. Sold in other markets as the Challenger, Pajero Sport, and G-Wagen. A true off-road SUV in its own right. Has a worldwide cult following.

yorimoto

Siguro yung Montero Sport 'yung binabangit nya kasi 'yun yata ang available dito sa atin ngayon...

GreatBop

Yea, he means montero sport. Personally, Endeavor would of been the better choice SANA

OTEP R

How is the Endeavor better? Inggit nga yung mga 4x4wire peeps when I said that we still get the MS and with a diesel-matic combo to boot. Hehehe.

The Endeavor is just a big car (it is Galant-based). It does not do anything particularly well. "Appliance" is the adjective I use to describe it. Great for getting from point A to point B but not much else.

The Montero Sport will open up a whole new world for you.

mackay_09

I'm referring to Montero Sport - I'm after the automatic and diesel kc eh.. What's Endeavor? Same price ba? 1.5?

GreatBop

Parang AUV. But 4x4 and better build¡q

OTEP R

The Eneavor is a Galant-based soft-roader sold in the U.S. Thankfully, we don't get that model and we still get a real 4WD SUV (CBU from Japan).

kobayashi

correct me if i'm wrong, pero yung binebentang montero sport ng mitsubishi motors ngayon ay 1998 model lang sya na montero, kaya nga mura eh. 1.5m lang ata

OTEP R

I think it was a 1997 launch for the Montero Sport. But it is not the 'flagship' Montero. Separate line talaga ang Montero Sport from the Montero line. And even from launch, the MS was positioned as a lower cost alternative to the other Montero (the one we call Pajero over here). That's why they used mostly L200/Strada bits to shave costs.

The Japanese plant is still in full production of Montero Sports. There is still no replacement coming soon for this model.

ale828

just wait for the new Toyota fortuner na lang, i heard it will be released here soon, around may yata. it would be priced around 1.5-1.6M din. plus it uses the newer diesel injection engine of toyota , and is a new car talaga not an older late 90's car like the montero sport. Although the toyota fortuner has no pedigree or heritage that has proven it off road, i doubt that your gonna use it for off roading.

kyle618

if ur not gonna use it off road mas ok un fortuner cguro

mackay_09

I'm gonna use it for everyday

richyuppie

Hi mackay! I'm from citimotors. You can coordinate with me if you're really interested with the montero sport. PM me.

Thanks.

shun_sakurai

The one caveat I hear about the Montero Sport is that it's not an especially safe car to survive a crash in. I remember watching something on one of the US news networks a few years back regarding its rather poor crash safety rating.

Now this isn't an especially new vehicle, and crash ratings do get more stringent each year. Perhaps the MS was just a victim of "obsolescence" with regard to these ever-changing crash test standards.

OTEP R

The Nissan Patrol GQ, Pajero V-series, Trooper USB/UBR and most other 'traditional' SUV's don't really have stellar crash test results. Designing a body on frame vehicle to perform well in a laboratory crash while still maintaining off-road capability is not that easy.

They do, however, perform well in real world crashes (as I, and other friends, have found out the hard way).

Mitsubishi will have a hard time competing with the Toyota Fortuner if indeed TMPI does bring them in. The Fortuner also thrives on traditional truck values and is a much newer design expected to cost not much more than the MS.

Macky_EX

GreatBop wrote:

Yea, he means montero sport. Personally, Endeavor would of been the better choice SANA

According to JD Power, here's the list of the best SUV choices in North America:

1. GMC Yukon
2. Chevrolet Equinox
3. Honda CR-V
4. Toyota RAV4
5. Hyundai Santa Fe
6. Toyota Highlander
7. Subaru Forester
8. Mitsubishi Outlander
9. Lexus RX 330
10. Honda Element
11. Saturn VUE
12. Pontiac Aztek (4x2)
13. Pontiac Aztek (4x4)
14. Buick Rendezvous
15. Nissan Pathfinder
16. Nissan Murano
17. Ford Escape
18. Mazda Tribute
19. Volvo XC90
20. Nissan Xterra
21. Acura MDX
22. Chrysler Pacifica
23. Infiniti FX-Series
24. Ford Excursion
25. Mitsubishi Endeavor
26. Honda Pilot
27. Jeep Liberty
28. Chevrolet Tracker 2-door
29. Chevrolet Tracker 4-door
30. Toyota 4Runner
31. BMW X5
32. GMC Envoy
33. Dodge Durango
34. Buick Rainier
35. Jeep Grand Cherokee
36. Ford Explorer
37. Ford Explorer Sport
38. Chevrolet Blazer
39. GMC Yukon XL
40. Jeep Wrangler
41. Mercury Mountaineer
42. Suzuki Vitara/GrandVitara
43. Lexus GX 470
44. Chevrolet Tahoe
45. Nissan Pathfinder Armada
46. Ford Expedition
47. Kia Sorento
48. Chevrolet TrailBlazer
49. Land Rover Freelander
50. Isuzu Rodeo
51. Toyota Sequoia
52. Chevrolet Suburban
53. Mercedes-Benz M-Class
54. Lincoln Navigator
55. Lincoln Aviator
56. Oldsmobile Bravada
57. Lexus LX 470
58. Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV
59. Isuzu Ascender
60. Land Rover Range Rover
61. Suzuki XL-7
62. HUMMER H2

Fortunately for Mitsubishi, wala nang Montero sa US. They've been losing money for years with their SUV na may parehas na pangalan but magkaibang sasakyan (Montero and Montero Sport). Nagiging smart na kasi ang US consumers. Daming nagsasabing redneck ng "why buy a truck if you want a car?"... pertaining to car-based SUVs. Sa totoo lang, kung passion mo talaga ang off-roading at kaya ng bulsa mo bakit hindi. Dami kong kilala na customized pa yung SUV nila dahil hilig talaga nilang mag-offroad (kasama pa pamilya nila at towed pa yung pang offroad vehicle/s nila) pero kung ipanga-araw-araw mo? I drive 20 miles back and forth from work and imagine what my daily commute using a "real truck" will do on my back!!! Rednecks kasi prefer that their wives do every family choir for them (i.e. pick up the kids, go to the grocery store, etc.). All they need are their pickup trucks and their shotguns (deer hunting's one of their fav sports)! Now for an ordinary consumer like me who needs the best of both worlds (i.e. drivability of a car, 4WD capability of an SUV, cargo/passenger room of an SUV, chasis rigidity (on monocoque frames sans those squeeks common on body-on-frame frames), mileage of a car, safety of a car, road visibility in an SUV) at an affordable pricing, bakit ka pa bibili ng "real truck"? I have 3 kids, a 7 yr-old, a 2 yr-old and a 6 month-old babies kaya daming nakalagay sa trunk everytime we go out like the double stroller, a huge baby bag and a bunch of toys. Also, I have a bad back and I live in an area where the snow can go up to more than 12 inches. Napakamahal ng gas ngayon. Now find me an affordable car that I can use for my everyday life and I'll line up to get one. Yup, the Endeavor is much better than a Montero Sports as Mitsibushi itself pulled the plug on their Montero lineup in favor of their Outlander/Endeavor SUVs. Mas reliable at safer (not a priority in the Philippines dahil sa slow traffic unlike sa US na 112km/h ang speed limit) pa compared again to their Montero couterparts.

Pero kung bundok ka talaga na nagkalat yung mga troso sa kalsada, san ka pa kung di sa da king daw of offroading vehicles di ba? Now don't get me wrong, I love offroading and I have done some when I still owned an MDX and a CR-V pero I came to realize na hindi ako mayaman and I need to get my money's worth everytime na may bibilhin ako.

OTEP R

Sa USDM lang nawala ang MS (and was replaced by the Endeavor). The rest of the world still gets the MS.

GreatBop

what's wrong for wanting that car?


The Endeavor's the newer car pa.

plus it's a good excuse for toyota to bring out the kick *** highlander pa.

talipandas9

^^From Macky_EX posting regarding the influential J.D. Power SUV ranking, it's quite ironic that the highest ranked locally available Ford SUV almost did not make it to the top 20 (Escape at number 19). The Explorer is at #36 while far worse is the most popular big SUV in the Philippines - the Ford Expedition. What does that say about Ford and the Philippine SUV market?

Same goes with GM. The highest ranked locally available GM SUV came in at #44 (Tahoe) while far worse were the TrailBlazer (#48) and Suburban (#52).

It goes without saying: I think GM and Ford are fooling a lot of rich customers.

GreatBop

^uh... that's something i've figured out when i came back here from canada, a year or two ago.

THAT plus JAGUAR.

When i got here, the dang expedition was the 'sought after vehicle'...


however, i dont tend to rely on jd powers. only car companies use it for their radio and tv ads. mga car magazines dont even go by it.