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WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE, De Venecia, Joker A and Frank Drilon?

booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
Why not allow for the opening of the Statement of Votes (SoV) and election returns to serve as countercheck for the Certifacates of Canvass (COC)? Bakit, mahuhuli ba na DINOKTOR ang iilan sa mga COCs kaya ninyong i-implement ang additional security measures para malaman ang authenticity ng COCs na yan?

Joker Arroyo, the biggest hypocrite and phony in the Senate, along with Drilon, Kiko Pangilinan, and Yoda de Venecia are doing everything they can to railroad GMA's proclamation. Are they the new "CRAVEN 4"?

Neal Cruz:
I was bothered by the exchange between Senate Majority Floor Leader Francis Pangalinan and Representative Didagen Dilangalen during interpellation last Wednesday regarding the proposed rules for the canvassing. The gist of the exchange was this:

Dilangalen asked: If there is a discrepancy between the original certificates of canvas (COCs) with Congress and those of the carbon copies furnished to the political parties, which would be followed?

Pangilinan replied that according to the rules the original would be followed.

"Then what are the copies for?" Dilangalen asked. "Are they mere scraps of paper?"

Good question. The purpose of those copies is to make sure that the figures in the original are not altered during the canvassing, so that the political parties can check them against their own copies. If they do not tally but the figures in the original are still counted, what indeed are the copies for?

Cheats can change the numbers in the original to make one or the other candidate win and Congress will still count them even if it is obvious that something is amiss. What kind of rule is that? What kind of foolishness is that?

Pangilinan said the objection would be treated as an election protest and go to the Presidential Electoral Tribunal for judgment. But we all know how slow the electoral tribunals are. By the time the election protest is resolved, the term of office is almost over. Even if the protester wins, his is an empty victory. How many decisions favorable to those who were cheated were promulgated a mere month or week before the end of the term?

Ayaw nyo bang maging TRANSPARENT at CREDIBLE ang pag-canvass ng boto, Joker and Drilon??? Shouldn't the administration doing everything it can to assure the public na malinis ang eleksyon at TRANSPARENT ang proseso ng bilangan, ESPECIALLY IN A VERY DIVISIVE AND HIGHLY CONTESTED PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?!?!?!

WHY THE BLATANT COVERUPS???

Dean Jorge Bocobo:

Look Who's Craven Now

What in the world is wrong with this picture? Joker Arroyo, champion of opening the Second Envelope; patron saint of full disclosure "so the public will know"; has become the Palace's senior mouthpiece and head of the "crack team" sent to keep the congressional canvass on track. It IS dismaying to see Joker Arroyo steadfastly opposing any and all attempts to go beyond the "certifcates of canvass" and allow a full examination of the paper mass artifact left by the Philippine national eletions. He and Senate Majority Leader Francisco Pangilino remind me more of the Balato Twins of the Erap impeachment trial, in their smug demeanor and hypocritical "statesmanship"--reeking with partisanship and prejudgment. Joker has lent his own peculiar eloquence to opposing and rejecting the so-called "Angara amendment" which would have required Comelec to supply certain "allocation lists" to the Congress, as an additional security measure and verification on the authenticity and due execution of the certificates of canvass. However, even this was rejected by Joker using the argument already propounded by the lower life forms from the House about how such an extra safety precaution was unnecessary. One just cannot shake the feeling that the administration and its supporters are trying to hide something. If that feeling grows and the general public comes away from the national canvass with something less than credibility and confidence, the new president may rediscover a favorite word during GMA-1: DESTABILIZATION.

Buking na talaga si Joker Arroyo.
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  • renzrenz PExer
    matagal nang buking ang gurang dahilan din sa kagagawan ng mga taong kumukunsinte sa kanyang pagiging inutile, kaya tuloy tuloy yan hanggang sa bumalik na siya sa pagkabata. nyahahhahah!

    about shrek ilong drilon and yoda-vadava jdv, what do you expect from puppets? nyahahah! aahhhh! si fpj pala puppet daw, pero itong dalawa mas malala pa. halatang halata pero yung mahilig mamuna sa pex, nagka sore eyes sa mata at di nila nakita. nyahahhaha!

    as for mr. sharon cuneta, what do you expect?

    nabubuking tuloy kayo. nyahahhaha!
  • wreckwreck PExer
    "syattap, mister speaker! syattap!" :D
  • renzrenz PExer
    no defenders here? hehehe. asan kayo. ipaglaban niyo ang halatang pandaraya niyo. nyahhahaha!
  • mabuhay si de venecia, drilon and company...
    let's have a party after the canvassing...

    yung iba dyan, hanggang ngawa na lng FOR LIFE
  • booksalebooksale PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Must read commentaries from Randy David and Ninez Cacho Olivarez.
  • renzrenz PExer
    Originally posted by banshe1981
    mabuhay si de venecia, drilon and company...
    let's have a party after the canvassing...

    yung iba dyan, hanggang ngawa na lng FOR LIFE

    bawal ngumawa ngayon pero ok noon? nyahahahha! come on banshe bebe, you dont practice this kind of attitude in your household or office work ha, that's bad. very bad. heheh. :D

    the uneducated lot of this country expect more than this from their educated brothers in edsa but they fail miserably... so miserably.

    mahirap pala ang ibang edukado, taas noo pa rin sa kanilang pagpipindeho sa inang bayan. nalimutan na siguro nila ang kinakanta nila noong panahon ni makoy, bayan ko...nasadlak sa dusa. nyaahhahha!

    let's do another edsa party! yehey! hehehe :D
  • Originally posted by renz
    bawal ngumawa ngayon pero ok noon? nyahahahha! come on banshe bebe, you dont practice this kind of attitude in your household or office work ha, that's bad. very bad. heheh. :D

    the uneducated lot of this country expect more than this from their educated brothers in edsa but they fail miserably... so miserably.

    mahirap pala ang ibang edukado, taas noo pa rin sa kanilang pagpipindeho sa inang bayan. nalimutan na siguro nila ang kinakanta nila noong panahon ni makoy, bayan ko...nasadlak sa dusa. nyaahhahha!

    let's do another edsa party! yehey! hehehe :D

    am i required to defend GMA here??...:D ay di bale na lng...in the end naman siya pa rin ang winner...
    i just have to save my energies na lng to help the country gain more with the 6 years of a glorious administration...
    a 6.4 % GDP growth is a good start...:yum:
  • Sus! e yung pagbubukas ng Election Returns e obvious na delaying tactics ng opposition. Marami kasing BOB*dito na hindi nila nalalaman kung bakit HINDI NA KAILANGAN BUKSAN ANG ELELCTION RETURNS.
    Kung bubuksan nila yan, if 10% of the total precints ang kailangang buksan uli, it will take 1 and a half year bago sila matapos considering only na it will take 10 mins/20 mins ang oras na gugugulin para sa isang ER.
    If they have a problem with that, dun pa lang sa provincial ang municipal canvassing e nagsampa na sila ng reklamo.
    E ano pa silbi ng mga attorney ng KNP ninyo sa bawat city at Provinces na pumirma dun sa COC's kung may reklamo pala sila?
    It means tinaggap nila ang COC's na yun kaya nakapirma sila. Tapos ngayon, ngawa sila ng ngawa. Ano ba namang utak meron sila? (kung meron man)
    Since ngayon lang sila nagreklamo, sa Election Tribunal ng Supreme Court na lang ang pwede nilang gawin like nung ginawa ni Mirriam Defensor Santiago.
    Kaya nga malinaw sa BATAS na hindi na dapat bumalik pa sa ER ang bilangan ng congress at COCs lang ang dapat nilang pagtuunan ng pansin. Yun lang ang trabaho nila as board of canvassers - if these COC's are duly executed and genuine!
    Kung hindi nyo pa maintindihan to, PUMUNTA kayo sa MARS, dun kayo magwala, magrally at magtatag ng society ninyo na wlang kinikilalalang batas (anarchy)! Isama nyo na pa yung idol nyong si FPJ! :P
  • renzrenz PExer
    galing ni lucio. nyahahhahha! sana napanood mo si rep escudero sa the world tonight last night. hmmmm... may matutunan ka for sure. nyahahahha!

    tay ko pow! komon sens. kung panalo pala kayo na hindi nandaya, ala e pabuksan niyo nang matigil na ang pag ngangawa ng mga talunan. e bakit napa vehement naman ng denial ng mga ka-liga niyo sa edsa? ayan tuloy, you're sealing the popular belief that gloria again cheated her way to her "shallow" victory(?). ano ba tinatago don sa questionable 25 coc's daw.

    aba kung ako yun, tutal wala namang dayaan, sige mag enjoy kayo sa pag scrutinize. that is kung talagang hindi ako nandaya. nyahahahha. gets mo banshe bebe? hehehe.

    at may bagong twist, knp naman ngayon ang belatedly na accuse na nandaya. a rather late accusation and sign of panic? it's closing in banshe bebe. nyahahhaha!
  • sadirmatasadirmata PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    mas magandang basahin at isaisip ang mga comments ni conrado de quiros.
  • "what are they trying to hide?"

    bagay na bagay to dun sa isyu ng envelope na ayaw pabuksan nung nakaraang trial.

    ang difference lang, sa case ngayon pwede pa rin naman mabuksan yung election returns sa ibang means or process na ayaw gawin ng opposition - election protest. bakit kaya?
  • renzrenz PExer
    election protest? saan sa supreme court? e naproklama na si gloria and for sure, aabutin ng pagtapos ng termino ni gloria kung saka sakali, ang protest di pa rin nareresolbahan. ang supreme court pa natin with 9 gloria appointees? you must be dreaming. hehehhe.
  • nakakatuwa dito, ibang klaseng karakter ang hinahangaan nila. iba talaga.

    It probably runs in their blood.

    Sakit ng lipunan hanggang ngayon meron. Kawawa naman si Jose Rizal nasapawan ng heroes ng mga ito. Ano kayang masasabi nya sa mga ganitong klaseng tao. Ang masama nito pati mga anak nila pinapamanahan nila ng mga sakit na to. Tingin nila sa sarili matalino sila at hindi sila nagkakamali. Lagi silang tama. Ano kaya ang sentro ng buhay ng mga taong ito. Ewan ko lang kung taas noo at buong pagmamalaki at lantaran nilang hinahangaan ang mga taong ito. ang galeeeng sobra ng analysis. wow!

    Batu bato sa langit, tamaan wag magalit.

    Yes sir. Opo, bossing, amo. your excellency.
  • Originally posted by Lucio_Liu
    Sus! e yung pagbubukas ng Election Returns e obvious na delaying tactics ng opposition. Marami kasing BOB*dito na hindi nila nalalaman kung bakit HINDI NA KAILANGAN BUKSAN ANG ELELCTION RETURNS.
    Kung bubuksan nila yan, if 10% of the total precints ang kailangang buksan uli, it will take 1 and a half year bago sila matapos considering only na it will take 10 mins/20 mins ang oras na gugugulin para sa isang ER.
    If they have a problem with that, dun pa lang sa provincial ang municipal canvassing e nagsampa na sila ng reklamo.
    E ano pa silbi ng mga attorney ng KNP ninyo sa bawat city at Provinces na pumirma dun sa COC's kung may reklamo pala sila?
    It means tinaggap nila ang COC's na yun kaya nakapirma sila. Tapos ngayon, ngawa sila ng ngawa. Ano ba namang utak meron sila? (kung meron man)
    Since ngayon lang sila nagreklamo, sa Election Tribunal ng Supreme Court na lang ang pwede nilang gawin like nung ginawa ni Mirriam Defensor Santiago.
    Kaya nga malinaw sa BATAS na hindi na dapat bumalik pa sa ER ang bilangan ng congress at COCs lang ang dapat nilang pagtuunan ng pansin. Yun lang ang trabaho nila as board of canvassers - if these COC's are duly executed and genuine!
    Kung hindi nyo pa maintindihan to, PUMUNTA kayo sa MARS, dun kayo magwala, magrally at magtatag ng society ninyo na wlang kinikilalalang batas (anarchy)! Isama nyo na pa yung idol nyong si FPJ! :P

    excuse me, hindi 'namin' idol si FPJ.

    alam mo, madaling bayaran ang tatlong taong authorized na pumirma sa CoCs para pirmahan ang isang fabricated CoCs. Hindi tayo makaksiguro na ang tunay na CoC na binantayan ng mga lawyers sa provincial board ang nakarating sa kongreso. Eh di ba ang tagal tagal nga bago nakarating ng senado yung mga yon.

    The only way to make sure na tama ang bilang ay kung ikukumpara ang mga questionable CoCs sa election returns.

    DELAY? you shouldn't worry about too much delays kung talagang walang discrepancy.

    Siguro meron kaya ayaw ng administrasyon ipabukas ang mga ER!

    Very reminiscent of the sealed brown envelope issue during the ERAP trial.
  • we need to do this election right. kung hindi kawawa tayo sa next election.

    kaya dapat pagbigyan ang request ng oposisyon. let us see once and for all who really won. its better to waste time now than forever destroy the sanctity of our ballots and forever divide this country on who really won.

    the way it is ...the pro gma are preventing the truth to come out.
  • This thread deserves a :rolleyes:.
  • ang pagbukas at pagscrutinize ba ng coc through ers and sovs against or mandated by our law? i watched strictly politics ni pia hontiveros at yung lawyer ni gma, nagkakalat. kasama pa ang walang silbing representative ng antique si javier.

    they cant explain their sides properly wherein atty adaza and rodriguez armed themselves with ebidins... yes pareng sadir, ebidins. documents to prove or disprove na totoong may dayaan. so what shall we do with these ebidins?

    say they're fabricated? immaterial (nyahahah!) or submit these to proper forum? isnt it congress duty to check the authencity and accuracy of these cocs during their counting ()but they changed the rules)? ang sabi pala, yung mga ers or sovs ba yun nasa pangangalaga ng senado as mandated by our constitution dahil in case of complaints or alterations in cocs these are accessible. so why ilong drilon is vehemently opposing opening these? hey shrek, what are you hiding?

    pang display lang ba ang use nito? tay ko pow! the slip is showing but the same pipol who cries the loudest on other pipols "immorality", put silencer in their big mouths and worse, they even support her highness "kadayaans at kawalanghiyaans".
  • sadirmatasadirmata PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    anyway, k-4 at knp, parehas na nandaya yang mga yan. pati si dilangalen, sinubukang "dayain" ang facts para lang "maipakita" daw na may pandaraya sa cebu.

    nyahahahaha.
  • Originally posted by banshe1981
    am i required to defend GMA here??...:D ay di bale na lng...in the end naman siya pa rin ang winner...
    i just have to save my energies na lng to help the country gain more with the 6 years of a glorious administration...
    a 6.4 % GDP growth is a good start...:yum:

    uhh..wow. you are definitely a dreamer.

    If GMA is president for another 6 years, we can look forward to more highways, airport toilets, and government projects that are worth P800M each. Sweet! Oh, yes, I can see it now - we'll continue to watch more filipinos leave the country, the poor become poorer, the middle class become poor, and the rich become as rich as the king of brunei. I can't wait! :cheers: :alcoholic:

    If your "La Gloria" reigns for another 6 years, maybe we'll even make it to NUMBER ONE on the list of most corrupt countries in the world. Yipeeeeeeeee! I am looking forward to that! I can just see it now - The Philippines will bask in all its glory, as it will be hailed as - The Armpit of Asia. Oh, yeah...we're going to be :rpflag: so proud to be Pinoys!!!
  • Originally posted by Juno
    uhh..wow. you are definitely a dreamer.

    If GMA is president for another 6 years, we can look forward to more highways, airport toilets, and government projects that are worth P800M each. Sweet! Oh, yes, I can see it now - we'll continue to watch more filipinos leave the country, the poor become poorer, the middle class become poor, and the rich become as rich as the king of brunei. I can't wait! :cheers: :alcoholic:

    If your "La Gloria" reigns for another 6 years, maybe we'll even make it to NUMBER ONE on the list of most corrupt countries in the world. Yipeeeeeeeee! I am looking forward to that! I can just see it now - The Philippines will bask in all its glory, as it will be hailed as - The Armpit of Asia. Oh, yeah...we're going to be :rpflag: so proud to be Pinoys!!!

    knock...knock...is these renz metamorphosing into another mutated nick???:D

    ok lng...i have always been a dreamer...
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