Home PEx News and Tech Local and Foreign Issues
COMMUNITY NOTICE: If you are having trouble in your account access, please do send us a message at [email protected] for assistance.

Poor City Planning or Poor Firefighting Capabilities?

CrusherCrusher PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
What's wrong here? A house caught fire and it ended with 500 houses gutted by fire at a cost of P100M. (Could be a low estimate, because it means an average value of only P200,000 per house).

"OVER a thousand families were affected and properties worth about 100 million pesos were lost in a fire that gutted 500 homes in Alarcon Subdivision along Sucat Road in Para?aque City Friday, GMA Network's "Saksi" newscast said. "

What kind of firefighter response could allow 500 houses to caught fire? What kind of training do firefighters get that they could perform so poorly?

Or was it because of bad community planning? Narrow streets, houses built too close to one another without any firewalls or firebreakers? Or were the streets clogged with illegally parked vehicles.

Fortunately, no casualties were reported. But this means that nobody was caught unaware.

Could this be a one nicely wrapped insurance scam?

"Authorities said the fire started from a kitchen in one of the homes in the area that quickly spread to other houses, including a posh condominium building."

One can just wonder and shudder to think if this kind of fire occurred in a squatter area.
«1

Comments

  • Originally posted by Crusher
    What's wrong here? A house caught fire and it ended with 500 houses gutted by fire at a cost of P100M. (Could be a low estimate, because it means an average value of only P200,000 per house).

    "OVER a thousand families were affected and properties worth about 100 million pesos were lost in a fire that gutted 500 homes in Alarcon Subdivision along Sucat Road in Para?aque City Friday, GMA Network's "Saksi" newscast said. "

    What kind of firefighter response could allow 500 houses to caught fire? What kind of training do firefighters get that they could perform so poorly?

    Or was it because of bad community planning? Narrow streets, houses built too close to one another without any firewalls or firebreakers? Or were the streets clogged with illegally parked vehicles.

    Fortunately, no casualties were reported. But this means that nobody was caught unaware.

    Could this be a one nicely wrapped insurance scam?

    "Authorities said the fire started from a kitchen in one of the homes in the area that quickly spread to other houses, including a posh condominium building."

    One can just wonder and shudder to think if this kind of fire occurred in a squatter area.
    Nobody knew how to make lagay to the fire dept so they will protect your property.
  • I think they failed in both counts. Where there's smoke, there's fire. :smokin:
  • Firefighters? Nung magkasunog sa amin, ang sabi pa nung isang bumbero sa mayor," Sir, wala na hong tubig." Ang sagot nung mayor, "*****! Anong gusto mo? Ako pa ang kumuha ng tubig?"
  • salermosalermo PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Originally posted by Crusher


    What kind of firefighter response could allow 500 houses to caught fire? What kind of training do firefighters get that they could perform so poorly?

    Reminds me when I was a small boy and happened to go by our town plaza.

    This town had just bought a small firetruck.

    To demonstrate the skills and capabilities of both firefighters and the fireengine, they built hastily a small bahay-kubo at the center of the plaza. Then the drill begun.

    The moment the bahay-kubo was ignited, the firetruck speedily went around the plaza showing off to the townpeople that they were ready to put off the fire. But they went for another go-around and by the time they came to the bahay-kubo they found it was already burned to the ground with ashes still smoldering.

    Lesson? That's one way to save water.

    ;)
  • DunedainDunedain PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Originally posted by salermo
    Reminds me when I was a small boy and happened to go by our town plaza.

    This town had just bought a small firetruck.

    To demonstrate the skills and capabilities of both firefighters and the fireengine, they built hastily a small bahay-kubo at the center of the plaza. Then the drill begun.

    The moment the bahay-kubo was ignited, the firetruck speedily went around the plaza showing off to the townpeople that they were ready to put off the fire. But they went for another go-around and by the time they came to the bahay-kubo they found it was already burned to the ground with ashes still smoldering.

    Lesson? That's one way to save water.

    ;)

    Kind'a reminds you the politicians (who bought the firetrucks). All show, no go. Puros salita, walang action.
  • Will the same situation plays in other scenarios:

    -A manageable budget deficit and public officials danced around it till it got big and cannot be managed anymore, trouncing everything on its path to complete destruction.

    - Few criminals being treated wih a kid's glove, until the prison system got overwhelmed and criminals start to run rampant in metro areas.

    - Handful of easily influenced opposition supporters just laughed at, until it grows into a monstrous size that cannot be controlled.

    500 houses burned just because a fire kitchen in one was not put out at once.

    And still some cannot think why everything seems to be going wrong in Pinas aspects of economy, jobs, education, health, housing and productivity?
  • Originally posted by m946281
    Nobody knew how to make lagay to the fire dept so they will protect your property.
    That was the problem before. Firemen would ask for money from the property owners before training their hoses.

    That gave way to the creation of volunteer firefighters who aren't in it for the money.
  • Originally posted by onwils
    That was the problem before. Firemen would ask for money from the property owners before training their hoses.

    That gave way to the creation of volunteer firefighters who aren't in it for the money.
    Volunteer firefighters are mostly Chinese. Now, the men bringing the water are Pinoy. And they expect to be paid. Or they (and the water) do not show up.
  • The city plan of Manila is hideous. The Americans should have stayed a little longer and made Manila look like something like San Francisco... hehe.
  • Originally posted by Dunedain
    Kind'a reminds you the politicians (who bought the firetrucks). All show, no go. Puros salita, walang action.
    Baka walang action kasi walang lagay.
  • just last night a fire happened near my place and nakita ko nanaman ang kabagalan ng MAKATI FIRE DEPARTMENT. to think they are the nearest fire department sa scene ng sunog pero naunahan pa sila ng mga chinese volunteer na nanggaling pa sa manila area! the same scenario also did happened 8 yrs ago nung nagka sunog din sa amin na nahuli din ang makati fire station. nakakainggit nga pag nakakapanood ako ng RESQUE 911 sa tv and nakikita ko kung gaano ka efficient and alert mga bumbero , pulis, paramedics sa kanila. dito kasi kelangan mo pa bayaran para umaction! kawawa naman yung mga nasusunugan na walang pambayad sa bumbero
  • I guess if you live in a bronx better ready yourself with your own fire exthinguisher. Us here in Makati we have the best fire fighters under fire chief: "Morales" so everything stays cool:*)

    Son: Dad, the neighbors house on fire!!!:o
    Dad: Son, quick go get the video-cam and the marshmallows!!!:D

    HEHEHE:p
  • ?

    You mean the fire didn't happen in a squatters area?

    Do those people have insurance?


    If it was a squatter's area, the squatters only have themselves to blame.
  • Originally posted by InspectorTrue
    ?

    You mean the fire didn't happen in a squatters area?

    Do those people have insurance?


    If it was a squatter's area, the squatters only have themselves to blame.
    The responsibility to put out the fire, whether in a squatter's area or not, is to the highest bidder. The Chinese Fire Truck holds only 500 gallons of water. In 10 minutes it would be hanging out to dry.
  • DunedainDunedain PEx Influencer ⭐⭐⭐
    Originally posted by m946281
    Baka walang action kasi walang lagay.

    That is why the Philippines have not risen up. Iisa lang ang laman ng utak: Lagay. Just ask these guys (in the government), out of the blue a simple math problem, they can't answer it. Put a currency sign in front of every number on the same problem, they solve it real quick and they add 15-20% on top of it. :glee:
  • Originally posted by Dunedain
    That is why the Philippines have not risen up. Iisa lang ang laman ng utak: Lagay. Just ask these guys (in the government), out of the blue a simple math problem, they can't answer it. Put a currency sign in front of every number on the same problem, they solve it real quick and they add 15-20% on top of it. :glee:
    That is the reality of life in Pinas. To deny it is worse.
  • Originally posted by gazaone
    I guess if you live in a bronx better ready yourself with your own fire exthinguisher. Us here in Makati we have the best fire fighters under fire chief: "Morales" so everything stays cool:*)

    Son: Dad, the neighbors house on fire!!!:o
    Dad: Son, quick go get the video-cam and the marshmallows!!!:D

    HEHEHE:p

    maybe you havent experienced your neighbors house on fire and youre not sure if your house could be next. you cant really joke on house fires coz believe me everything will get burned. and if you say that makati have the best fire fighters? ill be the first one to contradict you coz i think you havent seen them during a fire. lagi silang nauunahan ng mga chinese volunteers coming from far away places like binondo, baclaran, caloocan and im not joking coz ive seen it a couple of times. the location of the fire? san antonio village makati. wala pang 1 kilometer away sa fire station.
  • palinpalin PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    My take ... Everyone is to blame.

    Improper road use, people over-extend their houses to the sidewalks woefully narrowing the streets.

    No adequate training for fire fighters. I remember that news where BF scolded the firefighter for not attacking the fire correctly.
    People always blame it on lagay. Like there had to be a diabolical reason behind the disaster. If this is true, then it's not obvious.

    But for obvious logistical reason inproper execution of the Building Code as well as the its exection both by the governemnt and the private sector are to blame
  • Originally posted by entengkabisote
    ill be the first one to contradict you coz i think you havent seen them during a fire. lagi silang nauunahan ng mga chinese volunteers coming from far away places like binondo, baclaran, caloocan and im not joking coz ive seen it a couple of times.
    Volunteer firefighters should be commended unlike those who just wait around for their paychecks.
  • mac_bolan00mac_bolan00 PEx Veteran ⭐⭐
    boys and girls, those fires occurr in squatter areas, areas where people should NOT be living. they build not according to gov't specs, meaning there's hardly any access road, adequate setback for safety, and flamable materials.

    every squatter area is an inferno waiting to happen. and a firetruck certainly cannot provide enough mobile water to douse a 1000-house fire.

    i cant believe people would even ask.
    :rolleyes:

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file