Are you into Black Magic?

kesibi

please enlighten us on this topic

Gandalf86

First of all, we must define what *black magic* is? Is this fit to describe what it is?

Most people however, mean nothing else but "the bending of powers for malefic purposes". Is that what you meant?

Anyway, I *study* some form of sorcery, but I don't think I ever used any of my skills for sole malefic purposes...

Peace

raggster

@Gandalf86: the way you define it, there is] no such thing as "black magic," only "black magic-users." is this what you meant?

Gandalf86

Yes, pretty much! In the same way that the. re are no bad or good guns... I never use the word "black magic" anyway. Besides, why should black be anything bad in the first place 'di ba?

Peace

raggster

much as i understand your point, that's a bad analogy: the gun is an innovation borne of war and the need for an efficient killing machine. magick was borne of the need to harness inner nature for beneficial, albeit a tad bit selfish, purposes. just thought i'd point it out.

"black=bad" is just simple cultural bias, a stereotype perpetuated over time. besides, people fear and hate that which they understand the least, so it's not surprising for them to attach negative labels.

oh, and happy new year!

Gandalf86

okay, so the gun thing was a bad anology.:)thanks for pointing that out. good or bad electricity na lang...or better yet, good or bad smithcraft..hehehe

"black=bad" is just simple cultural bias
i can see that... although, i've dropped that bias long ago.

happy new year to ya all
gong xi fa zai
Olorin

clawed_out

good insight gandalf.

so, has anyone done any of this black magic that everyone is so curious of?
even witchcraft extremists couldn't make one except for the excuse of they use natural elements to produces magic.

oooooooooooooh earthquake! at nilamon ako ng lupa. lol.

raggster

negative use of magic = very negative karma, and it usually multiplies by a factor (the standard beleif is three, while one theory i know of says it can be an infinite number). and all of the level-headed magick-users i know of aren't very interested in dealing with negative karma.

as one aptly put it, "Why waste so much energy and effort, when you can just walk up to whoever it is and slap'em hard across the face?"

Gandalf86

as one aptly put it, "Why waste so much energy and effort, when you can just walk up to whoever it is and slap'em hard across the face?"
Exactly!.... besides I find secretly hexing someone a cowardly gesture...

peace

rickym

gandalf86 said:
"Exactly!.... besides I find secretly hexing someone a cowardly gesture..."

i don't do black magic, i would just want to comment on the quote.

a lot of fighting is done this way. people/nations in power call this cowardly because they are not ready to defend against such things. but they also use "cowardly" means.

for example:
the nuclear submarine, the cruise missle, unmanned aircraft
and other weapons of destruction which use stealth and manage to work from afar without risking human lives.

kesibi

I'm learning a lot! [besides the magic thingy] What about the whitchcraft related to Harry Potter & the reality?

Happy New Year, Pexers!

Gandalf86

hmmm.... i like HP very much. wish ko lang it could be real somehow - could you imagine a hidden world like that? WHOA!!! however, chances are it's not. better pa Lord of the Rings....

kesibi

Does this evolve with new technologies?

I mean, may hi-tech na din bang pamamaraan?

PrinceKassad

Hmmm! So anyone here actually tried to cast a spell? Kagaya din ba ito ng mga fire balls na nakikita sa mga fantasy stories? Where can we study to learn these kind of thing?

Sta|ker

i used to do wicca, not anymore... to much karma in onme force..

Gandalf86

to PrinceKassad
(*raises hand) me! pero no special effects... wish there were...;)

Sta|ker:
hmm... Wicca? karma on religious beliefs? or do ya mean withcraft?

peace

frenchkisser

And I think some practitioners spell it as "Magick" to distinguish it from ordinary "magic tricks". I used to be interested in it.

rickym

PrinceKassad said
"Hmmm! So anyone here actually tried to cast a spell? Kagaya din ba ito ng mga fire balls na nakikita sa mga fantasy stories? Where can we study to learn these kind of thing?"

i think that's what I used to do in gradeschool. it depends on the style, you could project it as balls just like in the fantasy stories. i usually wouldn't do those things, even in gradeschool, but a guy around 6 inches taller than me challenged me. i felt that, hey, if you challenged me, then i wouldn't acquire karma since you gave me permission. i felt i had nothing to lose since people don't believe it anyway. the first one i sent using the planet had no effect(mars is the planet of attack). so i changed and used saturn(planet for binding) he later dropped out of class for a week or so, my classmates told me that he would walk around class acting drunk. when i talked to him after a week he said that for some reason he lost his urge to eat regularly (that may be an effect of a binding spell, another posible effect is you can't piss!).

where can you learn? hmm. just watch star wars again and read between the lines. i'm serious. make sure you don't enter the dark side. it can be terrible, i've heard of a guy who cursed someone to get into a car accident, next day the one who cursed went to the office all bandaged up due to a car accident.

Sta|ker said
"i used to do wicca, not anymore... to much karma in onme force.."

the more powerful you get, the faster karma returns. if you are on the good side you get lucky. if you're on the bad side, mamalasin ka, you can even get sick, mentally or physically


no big deal with spells actually, all people make all these 'minor spells' unwittingly, the moment you think of something, its bound to happen. some just have more focus.

if you think you're mature enough, try it out, if not, leave it alone.

PrinceKassad

Teka mukhang lumalalim na ang usapan?

Ano yung karma? Di ko sha ma-gets....

So lumalabas na puro concentration lang ang magic, a matter of focusing your mind on something you want to happen? Walang amulet? Walang enchanted word?

If that's the case, ewan ko lang but it seems may nangyari na sa aking ganito....

When I was in second year highschool, nag-resign yung teacher namin sa THE at around December at wala pang tiyak na papalit. Now merong isang section na nandun yung girl na crush na crush ko, pero wala kaming common teacher. So for some unknown reason eh I was thinking and thinking na ang maging bagong teacher namin sa THE eh yung teacher nung section na yun.

Well on the following day, eh yun nga yung naging teacher namin?

Now I do not know kung coincidence lang talaga, or nahulaan ko ba ang mangyayari, or did I actually influence the flow of events.

I was trying to tap that concentration again pero di ko na nagawa. Well actually nagawa ko for second time pero later ko na sasabihin at medjo mahirap paniwalaan ang isang ito.

rickym

PrinceKassad said:

"Teka mukhang lumalalim na ang usapan?
Ano yung karma? Di ko sha ma-gets....
So lumalabas na puro concentration lang ang magic, a matter of focusing your mind on something you want to happen? Walang amulet? Walang enchanted word?
If that's the case, ewan ko lang but it seems may nangyari na sa aking ganito....
When I was in second year highschool, nag-resign yung teacher namin sa THE at around December at wala pang tiyak na papalit. Now merong isang section na nandun yung girl na crush na crush ko, pero wala kaming common teacher. So for some unknown reason eh I was thinking and thinking na ang maging bagong teacher namin sa THE eh yung teacher nung section na yun.
Well on the following day, eh yun nga yung naging teacher namin?
Now I do not know kung coincidence lang talaga, or nahulaan ko ba ang mangyayari, or did I actually influence the flow of events."


karma is a word which is usually associated with "what you sow is what you reap". so in short, be careful of what you wish for because if you don't wish the same for yourself, you're in trouble. for example. if you wish to have a beautiful girlfriend, that's fine. if you wish that you wish a certain beautiful girl to be your girlfriend, that's questionable. you wouldn't want any undesirable girl wishing that you would fall in love with her would you.

concentration is one of the things in magick whether good kind or bad kind. you don't need an amulet or an enchanted word. its just in my opinion like religion. it depends on your relationship with god. its not the rosaries, the missaletes, the statues, or the prayers. for some all the physical contraptions may facilitate them connecting with god, but for others a relationship with no contraptions is possible.

as for your teacher incident, naku watch it, if you did influence the events, that may be considered an infringement of will.

Sta|ker

like i said.. karma.. got affected and bitten by it.. and rickym you're right...