would you separate from your wife if?

rickym

i'm curious how religious people would handle this situation

supposing you and your spouse got married with the same religion

after a couple of years, she converted religion and started preaching to you

worse yet, she started to be very insistent that you convert into her religion. this would happen everyday until it would get to be unbearable.

you are a softee and you know that within a short while you will end up converting into something you don't believe in.

do you believe that you should dissolve the marriage or stay in the marriage and risk with almost utmost certainty that you will be converted into her religion which you believe is wrong.

aajao

no. if that case happens, i would show her that my God is a living God and in no time, she'll come back to embrace again our God.

aajao

Originally posted by rickym

you are a softee and you know that within a short while you will end up converting into something you don't believe in.

teka... medyo hindi ko ito napuna. if this will be the case, wala nang pag-uusapan dito sa thread. kase magpapaconvert na ako just to save our marriage, tama ba?

rickym

aajao said:
"teka... medyo hindi ko ito napuna. if this will be the case, wala nang pag-uusapan dito sa thread. kase magpapaconvert na ako just to save our marriage, tama ba? "

you're a softee so if you stay in the marriage, chances are you will get converted

but, you have an option to get out of your marriage and retain your religion.

i guess its like asking which do you value more your religion or your marriage. and at the same time, if you believe that your religion is against separation, what will you do since sticking to your marriage will force you to change religion.

aajao

oh. hmm... it made me think again. how about, staying in my faith, and saving our marriage at the same time? am i off-topic?

rickym

the reason i'm asking is because i think that this situation is a possible actual ground for annullment here in the philippines, it would fall under something like 'irreconcilable differences'.

and i think that this is a really probable scenario which may occur.

if we put a twist and reverse this with a submissive wife and a male chauvinistic husband who forces his wife to change religion would you if you were the wife's friend ask your friend to ask for an annullment, which your religion would consider unacceptable.

vinta18

Yes I would. I'm an atheist and while I'm open to the existence of other beings, I refuse to accept that they (and their earthly lieutenants) should have a hold over the way I behave. My convictions are strong and I wouldn't want my wife trying to convert me to any religion. Of course befoer marrying her she'd have to know and accept my (lack of) beliefs.

If she doesn't then it's goodbye.

the_BuGs

hmmmm parang sa nangyayari sa tito ko ah. yung wife nya at anak nya iba na ang religion pero sya nde pa nag papa convert. Pero masaya pa rin samahan nila . nsa sa iyo na lang yan. Sa tingin ko medyo makitid utak mo na kung maghihiwalay kayo ng asawa mo dahil sa relihiyon.

Simple lang yan. Wag mo ng pakialamanan kung saan nanampalataya ang asawa mo kung saan sya masaya dun sya Pero di ibig sabihin nun na maghihiwalay na kayo. Respetuhan lang ba.

gream

in that religion will i be limited in food choices? magiging bawal ba saken ang mga hayop na walang hoof at di ngumunguya mga shell fishes at kung anu-ano pa? kung softee ako di ko alam kung saan ako bibigay kung ganun, sa appetites ko o sa asawa ko? tough choice yun...

junjani23

the bugsssss....sya nga ang kinukulit ng asawa nya na magpa convert eh....kulit mo makaintindi ah?

ninoAnino

the reason i'm asking is because i think that this situation is a possible actual ground for annullment here in the philippines, it would fall under something like 'irreconcilable differences'.

It is a ground for legal separation. In legal separation, the grounds arise after the marriage, which is the case here. I must assume that when you guys got married, you really belonged to the same religion.

The grounds for annulment of marriage must exist at the time or before the marriage.

So, in this case, it's "Physical Violence or Moral Pressure to Compel the Petitioner to Change Religion or Political Affiliation. (Family Code, Art. 55 (2))

In legal separation, the parties are still married to each other and cannot remarry... :(

If that is the only ground... under our existing laws, the marriage cannot be dissolved or annulled.

alanis

Those issues that you think might cause dispute shall be properly communicated before venturing into marriage, much more when you are already married.

I just have to say this, I find it ironic that the Filipinos are perceived to be “religious”. But the truth is, people go to church regularly to ask forgiveness then commit sin again. I hate this hypocrisy. Look at our country, so many sufferings and injustices are happening, what are the church and religious people doing about it?

You should be a softee in some other things but not with regards to your beliefs. Respect is very important in a marriage. Why should religion be an issue in a marriage? Religion to me is what a person does in her solitude. How you are as a person and as a wife/husband is the only thing that should matter.

The only time, I guess that there’ll be a problem is when I’ll be with somebody blindly believing in Soriano and INC leaders while they repeatedly hit each other, using the name of God.

mac_bolan00

i doubt if my wife or anyone for that matter can force me into a religion (unless that person holds and ak-47 to my head).

shelsilverstein

under philippine law, it is a ground for legal separation.

physical violence or moral pressure to compel the petitioner to change religious, even political affiliation.

;-)

shelsilverstein

oops. i think ninoAnino already did the honors for me.

sorry about being repetitive.

ahmed

If she insists on setting up a statue of Mary and cooking pork chop and dinuguan, what am I supposed to do? :(

DoctorNO

Originally posted by ahmed
If she insists on setting up a statue of Mary and cooking pork chop and dinuguan, what am I supposed to do? :(

Ignore the statue and learn to cook.

aajao

gream

Originally posted by ahmed
If she insists on setting up a statue of Mary and cooking pork chop and dinuguan, what am I supposed to do? :(

you could think that the statue is just some novelty decor. dinuguan is just a dish with regular sabaw but uses dark food coloring. pork - that's just some extra special veggie meat product, or if you can eat beef, that's just a special breed of cattle...

p.i.joe

...just put her in bed everytime she brings it up! before you know it she's already convinced her case is weak and that religion is not that important after all.