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    Larry Bird vs. LeBron James, Two of the Greatest Small Forwards of all time.



    NBA Championships and Seasons

    NBA Championships
    Larry Bird 3
    LeBron James 2

    NBA Seasons

    Larry Bird 13
    LeBron James 12

    Playoffs Played

    Larry Bird 12
    LeBron James 9

    All-Star Games

    Larry Bird 12
    LeBron James 10

    Honors and Awards

    Season MVP

    Larry Bird 3
    LeBron James 4

    Finals MVP

    Larry Bird 2
    LeBron James 2

    All-NBA First Team

    Larry Bird 9
    LeBron James 8

    All-NBA Teams
    (Total Selections)


    Larry Bird 10
    LeBron James 10

    All-Defensive First Team

    Larry Bird 0
    LeBron James 5

    All-Defensive Teams

    Larry Bird 3
    LeBron James 6

    Scoring Leader

    Larry Bird 0
    LeBron James 1

    Rookie of The Year

    Larry Bird 1
    LeBron James 1

    Lebron and Bird (Regular Season, Playoffs, and Finals Stats)

    Lebron James

    Regular Season


    27.4 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg

    Playoffs

    28.1 ppg on 48.2 FG%, 8.5 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.9 bpg.

    Finals Stats

    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 tov, 46.3 FG%, 76.1 FT%, 54.6 TS%

    Larry Bird

    Regular Season

    24.3 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 10.0 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.8 bpg

    Playoffs

    23.8 ppg on 47.2 FG%, 10.3 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

    Finals

    23.1 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.9 tov, 45.6 FG%, 87.2 FT%, 53.4 TS%

    http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...bron_james.htm


    Totals Stats (Regular Season)

    Total Points
    Larry Bird 21,791
    LeBron James 23,901

    Total Rebounds
    Larry Bird 8,974
    LeBron James 6,239

    Total Assists
    Larry Bird 5,695
    LeBron James 6,012

    Total Steals
    Larry Bird 1,556
    LeBron James 1,483

    Total Blocks
    Larry Bird 755
    LeBron James 698

    Total Games
    Larry Bird 897
    LeBron James 871

    Totals Stats (Playoffs)

    Total Points
    Larry Bird 3,897
    LeBron James 4,419

    Total Rebounds
    Larry Bird 1,683
    LeBron James 1,332

    Total Assists
    Larry Bird 1,062
    LeBron James 1,019

    Total Steals
    Larry Bird 296
    LeBron James 273

    Total Blocks
    Larry Bird 145
    LeBron James 139

    Total Games
    Larry Bird 164
    LeBron James 158

    Who's the greatest Small Forward of all time?? Who's the more dominant player??

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    Too early, IMO. LeBron can of course still add to his legacy so let's wait until he retires.

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    Also, to save us time, because this is about LeBron being compared to another player:

    LeBron fans will pick LeBron because of stats and the fact that he's still somewhat in his prime

    LeBron haters and maybe some of the "veteran" posters will pick Bird and mention he never choked, never abandoned his team etc.

    Malamang ganito din itatakbo ng thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deronwilliams08 View Post
    Also, to save us time, because this is about LeBron being compared to another player:

    LeBron fans will pick LeBron because of stats

    LeBron haters will pick Bird and mention he never choked, never abandoned his team etc. Malamang ganito din itatakbo ng thread.

    Ganun na nga mangyayari. Pero nag choked din si Bird back to back 8 points nung 1981 NBA Finals, saka losing to lower seed teams like the Bucks in the 1980's. Hinde na niya kailangan lumipat ng team kasi meron na siya Parish and Mchale. Saka ala pa nung NBA Salary Cap kaya ang dali nila makakuha ng players. Hinde kagaya now na meron cap space. 1985 nag implement ang NBA ng salary cap. Mga 4 years ng nasa Celtics yung big three nila. (Bird, Mchale and Parish).

    1988 lang naman nagkaroon ng Unrestricted Free Agency. 2011 nung nag choked si Lebron nung 2007 masyado pa siya bata. Just like Kobe in the 2000 NBA Finals na di din maganda nilaro niya against Indiana.


    22 yr.old Kobe in the 2000 NBA Finals


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...00_finals.html

    22 yrs.old Lebron in the 2007 NBA Finals

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...07_finals.html

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    LeBron by a decent margin

    but Larry's career storyline is more impressive. Battled his All-Time Rival Magic in the Finals once in college and 3 more times in the NBA.

    LeBron's nearest rival is Paul Pierce (won in 2008 and 2010), met 5 times in the playoffs winning the last 3 series ( 2011, 2012, 2014)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblesButtercup View Post
    LeBron by a decent margin

    but Larry's career storyline is more impressive. Battled his All-Time Rival Magic in the Finals once in college and 3 more times in the NBA.

    LeBron's nearest rival is Paul Pierce (won in 2008 and 2010), met 5 times in the playoffs winning the last 3 series ( 2011, 2012, 2014)
    Rival din Lebron. Durant and Duncan. Halos di nagkakalayo ang ranking nina LBJ and LJB. Yun nga lang active pa LBJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBron6 View Post
    Ganun na nga mangyayari. Pero nag choked din si Bird back to back 8 points nung 1981 NBA Finals, saka losing to lower seed teams like the Bucks in the 1980's. Hinde na niya kailangan lumipat ng team kasi meron na siya Parish and Mchale. Saka ala pa nung NBA Salary Cap kaya ang dali nila makakuha ng players. Hinde kagaya now na meron cap space. 1985 nag implement ang NBA ng salary cap. Mga 4 years ng nasa Celtics yung big three nila. (Bird, Mchale and Parish).

    1988 lang naman nagkaroon ng Unrestricted Free Agency. 2011 nung nag choked si Lebron nung 2007 masyado pa siya bata. Just like Kobe in the 2000 NBA Finals na di din maganda nilaro niya against Indiana.


    22 yr.old Kobe in the 2000 NBA Finals


    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...00_finals.html

    22 yrs.old Lebron in the 2007 NBA Finals

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...07_finals.html
    Kobe was injured , reason His stats were not that impressive.

    On topic, Bird was a better shooter but LeBron was more athletic.
    Basketball IQ/skill, almost equal,both players possess an excellent all around game.
    On defense, edge to LeBron, His speed is his advantage.

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    LeBron is now officially the greatest Small forward of all time. If he wins a 4th Finals MVP he'll be the greatest forward in NBA History.

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    Larry Bird

    Ang stats around 30% lang ng story. At iba tawagan ng referee ngayon kumpara dati. Makaporma ba lebron kung hindi agad pumipito referee sa simpleng hand check.

    Hindi consistent si lebron sa perimeter lalo na pag game 7 tapos close game. Hahayaan nya kakampi or ipapasa bola like yung nangyari sa golden state si kyrie bumanat. At natalo warriors dahil nabutas ilalim bigla nainjured bogut so hindi full force tinalo.

    At sa laki ng katawan, bilis at taas tumalon ni lebron dapat destroy nya competition. Eh si bird mabagal, hindi mataas tumalon pero kita mo inaasar competition nung panahon nya.

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