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    Question My Husband's Lover Bill

    PAO chief backs ‘husband’s lover’ bill
    By Julliane De Jesus
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    MANILA, Philippines—The bill filed by Albay Rep. Edcel ‘‘Grex’’ Lagman Jr. penalizing extra-marital affairs of lovers of same sex has gained a supporter in the person of Atty. Persida Acosta, chief of the Public Attorney’s Office (PAO).
    Acosta said in an interview with Radyo Inquirer 990 AM on Friday that if Lagman’s bill becomes a law, legislators should revise the Family Code of the Philippines by including the bill’s provisions in the Code.
    House Bill 2352, or “My Husband’s Lover” bill, was named after the hit television drama series featuring an aggrieved wife whose husband is engaging in an illicit relationship with a gay man.
    It proposes to improve Article 333 of the Revised Penal Code (Crimes Against Chastity) which penalizes persons commiting adultery and concubinage.
    Acosta reiterated that the laws of the country on marriage and family are already “obsolete.”
    She said she is also recommending that spouses who are guilty of Violence Against Women and their Children (VAWC), “habitual” drug addiction and sexual infidelity be considered as grounds for declaring a marriage null and void.
    “’Yung mga anak na nire-rape ng ama sa harap pa mismo ng ina, hindi pa ba ground for marriage ‘yon? (Fathers raping their daughters in front of their mothers, isn’t this enough ground for nullifying marriage?)” Acosta lamented.
    Asked if husbands or wives who eventually come out as gays would be penalized too, she said that this case is not criminal unless the husband or wife is caught having sexual relations or living in with his or her partner of same sex.
    Expressing her support for Lagman Jr.’s bill, Acosta said that the country needs a law that promotes gender equality now that society recognizes the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) community.
    She pointed out that although the presence of feminist movement helps distressed wives by empowering them to file cases against their abusive husbands, most “traditional” Filipino women would rather tolerate their partners and preserve their marriage vows.
    But Acosta said that before passing the bill, it should clearly define the grounds and limits of the case.
    “Dapat ingat sa pagpapasa ng batas na iyan. Dapat talaga may sapat na ebidensya at patunay (Congress should be careful in passing the bill. In filing cases, the evidence and proof must be sufficient ),” she added.


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    I am in favor of a new law to reform our obsolete and gender-biased adultery and concubinage laws. The penalties for men, women and gays should be equal. Better yet, adultery should be decriminalized and should be categorized as a civil offense, a breach of the marriage contract.

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    ^ Yup. Very good proposal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    I am in favor of a new law to reform our obsolete and gender-biased adultery and concubinage laws. The penalties for men, women and gays should be equal. Better yet, adultery should be decriminalized and should be categorized as a civil offense, a breach of the marriage contract.
    I agree with that with certain conditions. Like if the adultery was committed when a marriage is not being consummated anymore for reasons of enmity between the spouses for a long period of time, then it should not even be a civil offense.

    Adultery is not even illegal in some countries like Canada but is a ground for divorce. It is illegal only if done in the home of their child.

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    Makes sense. Pag ikukulong kasi ay double jeopardy na yan kasi kulong na tapos impyerno pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Makes sense. Pag ikukulong kasi ay double jeopardy na yan kasi kulong na tapos impyerno pa.
    Just looking at your wife/husband with lust maiimpyerno ka na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Just looking at your wife/husband with lust maiimpyerno ka na.
    There's more. Just looking at anybody with lust is already a sin. And my exegesis tells me that even looking at the computer screen with lust already deserves hellfire.

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    Sino ba ang lumikha ng kalibugan? Eh di Dios. Kung walang libog, hindi dadami ang tao. Isa nanaman itong kaso ng sanggol na binigyan ng matalim na kutsilyo. Ganon din ang libog na napakalakas ng impluwensya sa isip at gawain ng tao. Hindi ito gawa ni Satanas. Gawa ito ng Poong Maykapal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iskrotum View Post
    Sino ba ang lumikha ng kalibugan? Eh di Dios. Kung walang libog, hindi dadami ang tao. Isa nanaman itong kaso ng sanggol na binigyan ng matalim na kutsilyo. Ganon din ang libog na napakalakas ng impluwensya sa isip at gawain ng tao. Hindi ito gawa ni Satanas. Gawa ito ng Poong Maykapal.
    Hindi lang pala Puno ng Kaalaman ang kanyang ginamit para subukan ang tao. Ginagamit rin niya ang Libog para matukso ang mga mahihina ang loob. Mahilig si God sa mga pagsubok. Di kaya siya insecure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Hindi lang pala Puno ng Kaalaman ang kanyang ginamit para subukan ang tao. Ginagamit rin niya ang Libog para matukso ang mga mahihina ang loob. Mahilig si God sa mga pagsubok. Di kaya siya insecure?
    Hindi siya insecure kundi wala siyang alam! Bakit ka susubok kung ikaw ay ALL-KNOWING?

    Common sense!!

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    The action of testing is incompatible with the concept of omniscience. Being all knowing means that you don't have to test. Kung alam ni God how the Universe will play out, he would not even need to start it in the first place. He only needs to play it in His Divine Mind.

    As an analogy, albeit with less omniscience, any grandmaster can play a game of chess in his mind. He does not have to bring out any chessboard. Beethoven can compose music and listen it in his mind without needing any instrument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    The action of testing is incompatible with the concept of omniscience. Being all knowing means that you don't have to test. Kung alam ni God how the Universe will play out, he would not even need to start it in the first place. He only needs to play it in His Divine Mind.
    Amen Ateo! Dapat ikalat natin ang doktrina ng incompatibility of testing and omniscience.

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    Now, back to the MHL Bill. Once buksan ng Congress ang diskusyon tungkol sa marriage laws, malamang masali na riyan ang Divorce at tuloy maipasa yan ng di oras. Ayaw ng Church nito, naging active na ang mga social reform bills. Liberal agenda ito to persecute the God-fearing Christians!

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