Danny Seigle or Benjie Paras?????

[amca12]

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[nix]

Paras for the season, Seigle for this conference. Man, that Seigle guy is jost so good!

[stanch]

Paras is the MVP dis yr.
Danny S., MVP in the near future.

[martian]

Paras is the main man!!!

[GAC]

This is the year of Benjie Paras! He is the sole local player to have taken the challenge of the advent of the Fil-Ams. Other players I expected to pick up the slack are Alvin Patrimonio, Jun Limpot, Marlou Aquino, Vergel Meneses, and Nelson Asaytono but they were not up to it. For this alone, Benjie is more than deserving to be named MVP of this year.
In terms in skills, though, Danny Seigle is, for me, one the top three Fil-Ams in the country. He may not have the discipline and body strength of an Eric Menk or the confidence, and showmanship of a Sonny Alvarado, but Danny is the most versatile of the Fil-Ams. He shows good teamwork and basketball sense.

[Xiaoyu]

Definitely Benjie Paras. He really deserves to be called the MVP of the conference. I know na some people think na he won dahil sa "Sentimental Vote", but I beg to differ. Despite the influx of powerful FilAms this year, he still stood his ground.
Further more, I think he should win MVP of the year and Most Improved Player. Agree??

Shell 4 life!!!!!!

[yakult]

duh.
of course, paras. i mean, i don't mean to diss danny seigle, but he has got to admit, that paras has been consistent throughout. seigle, still has to show his stuff to be a real pba player. i guess all i can say to danny seigle is...marami ka pang bigas na kakainin. and btw, paras is not a sentimental favorite. he deserves to win that award.

[Xiaoyu]

Sino ba ang MVP of the season? Sino ba ang MVP ng Commy Cup?
Duh. Paras kaya. No doubt about it.

[24/7]

DANNY S!!!!

[zimatar]

MVP si Paras dahil sa nag-vote na 4-man committee, 2nd & 3rd conference belongs to Seigle kaya lang nadaya lang siya nung 2nd conference, alam ninyo iyan, doon talaga nag-peak ang laro ni Seigle. At iyong statistical points lamang si Paras after the 2nd conf. pero down naman ang laro niya last conf. kaya understood lang na nalampasan siya and that's the bottomline, i-check mo source mo Xiaoyu, in-favor ka lang sa Shell kaya mo nasabi iyan, you're only dreaming, next year wala na sa final four ang team mo, SIGURADO IYAN !!!!

[Y2K-G_21]

Sinong mas maraming Statistical points?????
hahahahahahah!!!!
wag ka na mangarap ok????
Si Paras mas magaling!!!
duh!
alam ko naman mas magaling si Parker kay Paras eh!
Kaya lang mas magaling si Paras at Parker kay Siegle!

[Xiaoyu]

O sige, you want me to check my source?! How bout if you check yours?! Saang bogus source mo naman nakuha na mas madaming sps si Seigle kay Paras? Check out www.pba.com.ph , andon lahat! And excuse me lang, ha, kahit hindi nakapasok sa semis ang Shell, di pa din nalampasan ni Seigle si Paras sa sps. Pustahan pa tayo, gusto mo? I am SOOOOOOO sure. I-harap ko pa sayo lahat ng statistician ng PBA, eh. Gusto mo pati yung PBA Chairman? Pati si Bobong Velez, gusto mo? Eh kung si Jun Bernardino kaya? Kaya ko yon. Do you want to try me? No one questions my credibility and gets away with it.

I'm only dreaming? Ha. Sino bang nanalo sa All Filipino Cup last season na walang dominant Fil-Am? Kaya ng Shell ko yan. Just wait for our Fil-Am.

[Y2K-G_21]

Kaya naman mas magaling sa Paras kay Siegle dahil lack of experience si Siegle eh.
Iba na kasi ang veteran eh and what a comeback sya this season.
Kahit na mas matangkad si Siegle kay Paras kayang kaya niya palpalin si Siegle.
Offensively awared and defensivley awared si Paras.
Si Siegle sa offense lang not much on defense.

[Xiaoyu]

Game 7? Excuse me, but I don't recall saying anything about a Game 7.
Ano feeling mo, feel mo nakakatawa ka? "Ililikod"?! Crapshit, that was so funny. Tama na, tama na, ***** sumasakit na tiyan ko sa kakatawa. Aray, aray. Hahaha. Teka kinakabag na ako, ouch, ouch.
Tawang-tawa ka ata sa sarili mo..."Ililikod" ampucha. Sa bagay, sino ba namang di matatawa don? Hahaha. Ito nanaman, leche, ang sakit sakit na ng tiyan ko, tama na.

You just used toliet humor to avoid the fact na BARADO KA! Ano, shempre wala kang mahaharap sakin na proof that will support your bogus claim na mas madaming sps si Seigle. Kasi naman...kung mali, aminin. Kung bobo, magpa-talino (kahit walang pag-asa). Excuse me, kahit talo kami, at least we bowed out of the competition with grace. Shell has always been a decent team, and kahit wala mashadong fan support, malakas pa din.
Ngayon, kung makakaharap ka sakin ng statisticians, ng Governors, yung Chairman, yung Commissioner, at yung big boss ng VTV, eh I might give the attention that you have so desperately been seeking from me. Pero kung hinde, ***** bahala ka na lang. I, and any self-respecting person with about half a brain, won't even give you the time of day.

[This message has been edited by Xiaoyu (edited 12-16-1999).]

[bLaCk]

rookie Danny has lots of potential... but Benjie Paras has proven himself again, noh...
ZIMATAR... i recommend the site www.pba.com.ph check mo muna bago ka magpost, para di ka mapahiya next tym, k?

[Y2K-G_21]

Tama ka dyan Black.
Zimatar: pahiya ka nanaman no!
wag ka na kasi manggaya ng iba!

[Derrick_Rose]

ang tagal na ng thread na ito almost 8 yrs.ago pero 2 time MVP si Paras samantala si Seigle bokya pa rin.

Venancio Johnson " Benjie" Paras



There are those who will dispute his first MVP award in 1989, the year San Miguel won a grand slam. In fact, even Norman Black found it funny that the MVP during the triple crown year did not come from the team that accomplished the feat. But what is non-debatable is the fact that Paras is the only player to win the MVP and Rookie of the Year awards in the same season. But his real claim to greatness is his heartwarming comeback story from his self-inflicted downfall. Coaxing himself out of a shell of his self-contentment, Paras won yet another MVP award, 10 Years after the first one launched him to superstardom. And that MVP trophy came in the year when several talented half-Filipinos threatened to duplicate his feat as top Rookie-MVP awardee. The way he defended his sacred space in the record books was truly an inspiring story.

Position Center
Height 6 ft 4 in (1.94 m)
Weight 192 lb (87 kg)
Team Shell Turbo Chargers, San Miguel Beermen
Nationality Philippines
Born October 8, 1968
Baguio City
College University of the Philippines
Pro career 1989–2003
Awards 2-time PBA MVP (1989, 1999)
1989 PBA Rookie of the Year


Venancio "Benjie" Johnson Paras, Jr. (born October 2, 1968) is a Filipino actor and a former basketball player of the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA). He is the only PBA player to win both Rookie of the Year (ROY) and Most Valuable Player (MVP) honors, in a single season (1989). As its star Forward-Center, Paras led the Shell Turbo Chargers to championship titles.


University stint

A prized recruit from San Beda High School, Paras started as center for University of the Philippines (UP) Fighting Maroons, where he once scored 19 points, grabbed 17 rebounds, and blocked seven shots against rival Far Eastern University. The prized UP player had all the basketball essentials in him-- agility, rebounding strength, and shooting touch. Eventually, the Maroons went on to win its second UAAP title against the University of the East (UE) Red Warriors led by Jerry Codiñera.


The Rookie from UP

Drafted by the Shell Turbo Chargers in 1989, Paras, aptly nicknamed- "The Tower of Power", electrified the PBA with excellent ball-handling, powerful rebounding, deft mid-range shooting, well-timed shot blocks and the uncanny ability for inside scoring. Although his team did not win any title that season, these outstanding abilities overshadowed even the most skilled of players and because of these he not only took Rookie of the Year, but also became its Most Valuable Player. Benjie Paras was the only PBA player to have done this feat.


Paras as a Turbo Charger

In 1990 (The Open Conference) Paras would lead Shell to their first title since entering the league by beating Anejo Rhum in a championship series that finished in 6 games, the climax featured a walk out by Anejo players. A year(1991) later Shell and Ginebra would meet again in the Finals (Reinforced Conference), Paras and the Tubro Chargers seemed poised to beat the Gins once again after taking a commanding 3-1 lead, but the Gins made a dramatic rally and coming back from the 3-1 deficit and winning the title in a classic Game 7 encounter that featured Rudy Distrito's game winner.

Paras was also selected to play in the 1990 Asian games Basketball Team that won the Silver Medal, coming up short against China in the Finals/Gold Medal match.

In 1992, Paras and the rejuvenated Turbo Chargers now with Leo Isaac, and Rey Cuenco led Shell to another title, winning it over the San Miguel Beermen. After 1992 title, Paras and Shell would show inconsistencies as it flirted to the cellars in several occasions. But Paras managed to earn a trip back to the Finals (Commissioner's Cup), thanks in part to import Kenny Redfield and supporting casts Peter Naron, Richie Ticzon, Victor Pablo, Jojo Lim etc. in 1996 and battled the grandslam seeking Alaska Aces, then known as the Alaska Milkmen in an unbelievable 7 Game series which Alaska won. Paras was also a contender to win the MVP in the 96 season of the PBA.

Paras would then re-enter the Finals 2 years later in the Centennial Cup Finals this time meeting the Talk N Text Phone Pals then known as Mobiline Phone Pals, in a one game title showdown, Shell came up short. Paras would get his revenge thanks to the help of Noy Castillo and Gerald Esplana as the rematch was set for The Governor's Cup Finals of the PBA against Mobiline. Shell came back after trailing the series 3 games to 2. Shell and Mobiline battled into a gruelling 7 games until Shell prevailed due to timely baskets by Paras and Esplana.

In 1999, Paras dominated the Filipino-Americans(Fil-Am) laden PBA by leading Shell to another Finals appearance this time against Tanduay Rhum Makers bannered by Fil-Am Eric Menk and the deported Sonny Alvarado. Paras held his own against the two taller, stronger and more athletic Fil-Ams as he led Shell to another title winning it 4-2. That would be Parás' last title, as his team was unable to stop the San Miguel Beermen in the title showdown for the Commissioner's Cup. Paras would win his 2nd MVP since 1989.

For his last three years, injuries plagued his playing career and it was so bad he only saw action in 44 games from 2000 to 2002. Before the opening of 2003 season, Paras, at 34, has finally called it quits.

Paras played in a total of 574 games in his career. Not counting the 2002 campaign, he collected 10,322 points, 4,402 rebounds, 1,822 assists, 1,323 blocks and 221 steals.

Benjie Paras Career Stats Average

18.0 PPG
7.7 RPG
3.2 APG
2.3 BPG
0.4 SG



Awards

2-time Most Valuable Player (1989 & 1999)
Rookie of the Year (1989)
5-time Mythical First Team Selection (1989, 1990, 1991, 1995 & 1999)
3-time Mythical Second Team Selection (1992, 1994 & 1996)
Best Player of the Conference (1999 Commissioner's Cup)
Comeback Player of the Year (1999)
Eight-time PBA All-Star
2-time PBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player (1994 & 1999)
PBA's 25 Greatest Players of All-Time
Other Basketball Highlights:

A Member of the 1990 Asian Games national team (Silver Medal)


Career developments

Paras retired in 2003, ending his 14-year career with the Philippine Basketball Association. However, he returned later in the year, suiting up for San Miguel Beer before calling it quits once again at season's end. He is currently an actor in show business.

[st.anger]

i miss Shell

Tower of Power FTW!

[jammerakwaii10]

I think Danny S should have won MVP a long time ago.

[anino83]

I think Danny S should have won MVP a long time ago.

Danny S should have won Danny I's second MVP.

Paras deserved the 1999 MVP award.

Close the thread! It's waaaaaayyyyyyy old...hehehehe