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  1. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by Manunuwag View Post
    Syensya na kasi nagkamali ako at nagmadaling nagbalik sagot eh rason
    nga pala ang tanong mo kung bakit nila ito ginagawa ah
    .......

    Balik ako ulit sa tanong ko eh bakit naman kaya sila lumisan at di man
    lang nanatiling kumahalubilo sa atin magpa hanggang sa ngayon
    ?

    Di ala na sanang pag-aalinlangan at hanapan ng mataang ebidensya na
    ang mga ito ay totoo.
    hindi po sila lumisan sila po ay nandito pa din at nag babantay sa daigdig na parang mga anghel. eto po ang isa sa mga explanation sa mga UFO sighting.

    para po silang nag palaki ng mga bata.

    ianantay lang nila mag mature ang mga humans parang bata na pag natuto na at pwede na mag isa.

  2. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by doombot View Post
    hindi po sila lumisan sila po ay nandito pa din at nag babantay sa daigdig na parang mga anghel. eto po ang isa sa mga explanation sa mga UFO sighting.

    para po silang nag palaki ng mga bata.

    ianantay lang nila mag mature ang mga humans parang bata na pag natuto na at pwede na mag isa.
    Ah....... pero kadalang naman ng mga pagpapakitang yan kung
    talagang sumusubaybay sila sa atin.

    Kung ganoon din pala ay walang walang kapangyarihan din ang
    mga yan na supilin ang mga salot, pampighati at mga kalamidad
    na nagpapahirap sa mga kanilang mga pinapalaking bata at tila
    may pagka anghel pa nga sila ayon din sa tinuran mo.

    Di pa ba naman na abanteng abante na ang karunungang
    namamayani na sa sansinukob nating ito at ika mo nga ay
    aalialigid pa rin sila.

    Salamat sa mga mahinahong sagot mo din naman at may
    mga katanungan pa ako sa susunod na pagpoposte ko rito.

  3. #323
    Mainstream explanations is really over-rated. relied only with what the over-rated human beings said to end all the argument and concentrate with the modern era teaching..

    proof is really inscrutable, we have all different belief in life, God is not alien IMO, i really respect God as our supreme being the greatest architect that we've known.

    @Simone *They're not similar in shape and size. Even within Egypt and Mesoamerica, pyramids vary in size. As to shape, many Mesoamerican pyramids are not like the Egyptian pyramids with square bases. The heights of Mesoamerican pyramids also have varying proportions to their bases, unlike the Egyptian pyramids which tend to have uniform height to base proportion. The architectural style also varies widely. Mesoamerican pyramids are step pyramids with external stairways and temples at the top that break off the continuity of the pyramidal structure. The Great Egyptian pyramids have smooth sides, and definitely have no external stairways and cuboid temples at the top. In fact the Mesoamerican pyramids have much more in common with Mesopotamian ziggurats than the Egyptian pyramids in terms of style. Also, the two groups of pyramids do not represent the same thing. Mesoamerican pyramids, the Aztec pyramids for example, represent the altepetl, literally "water-mountain," the fertilizing mountain at the heart of the city. Egyptian pyramids on the other hand represent the primitive mound in Egyptian creation myths. This mound is not a mountain but a mound of soil in the Nile river.

    - "ok lets say they differ in shape because of the height, what about the width and diameter of it? you assume its different in shape and size but in design they both have similarities. what's the purpose of having same pyramid design, why not have different shapes like circles, squares, rectangle. pentagon, octagon, hexagon etc.. because they have the same imaginations..? have u been to the giza yourself, can we plan a scheduled travel plan to go there and see for ourselves?

    you said that our ancient ancestors is smart ***, yes i agree because they are, without any insult. but where did they get those ideas? just from imaginations? it doesnt convince me.

    if you believe that we dont have any visitations from other worldly beings and we did it ourselves, then explain why egyptians are so smart? where did they get their dna's? being ugly or pretty , being black or white or asian is because you inherited those dna from your parents. who are their parents? (their egyptian parents just popped out from somewhere? apologies if my form of asking is rude but im just curious to get legit answers..

  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Manunuwag View Post
    Ah....... pero kadalang naman ng mga pagpapakitang yan kung
    talagang sumusubaybay sila sa atin.
    sila po laging nandyan upang mag masid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manunuwag View Post

    Kung ganoon din pala ay walang walang kapangyarihan din ang
    mga yan na supilin ang mga salot, pampighati at mga kalamidad
    na nagpapahirap sa mga kanilang mga pinapalaking bata at tila
    may pagka anghel pa nga sila ayon din sa tinuran mo.
    upang matuto ang tao tumayo sa kanyang sarili.

    ang mga salot ay maaring kagagawan ng mga demonyo o masasamang alien.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manunuwag View Post

    Di pa ba naman na abanteng abante na ang karunungang
    namamayani na sa sansinukob nating ito at ika mo nga ay
    aalialigid pa rin sila.
    .
    kulangot pa po ang kaalaman ng tao sa ngayun. madami pa pong katunungan na hindi kayang sagutin ng syensiya na kaya lamang sagutin ng relihiyon. hindi lahat ng bagay eh natutunan sa apat na sulok ng silid aralan.

    maari pong sa future ang tao naman ang maging alien, upang mag aruga ng sibilisasyun ibang planeta.


    Quote Originally Posted by Manunuwag View Post

    Salamat sa mga mahinahong sagot mo din naman at may
    mga katanungan pa ako sa susunod na pagpoposte ko rito.
    maraming salamat din sa iyong mga tanung ginoong manunuwag.

  5. #325
    Originally Posted by Manunuwag

    Di pa ba naman na abanteng abante na ang karunungang
    namamayani na sa sansinukob nating ito at ika mo nga ay
    aalialigid pa rin sila.
    .


    *Current status of human civilization

    Human civilization is currently somewhere below Type I, as it is able to harness only a portion of the energy that is available on Earth. The current state of human civilization has thus been named Type 0. Although intermediate values were not discussed in Kardashev's original proposal, Carl Sagan argued that they could easily be defined by interpolating and extrapolating the values given above. In 1973, he calculated humanity's civilization type to be 0.7, in relationship to Kardashev's model for Types 0 and I.

    Type 0 Civilization
    Essentially, our civilization. A type 0 civilization has only just begun to tap planetary resources such as solar power, geothermal power and wind power. Most of its power generation is still based on non-renewable fossil fuel resources, for example, oil, coal and natural gases.

    Type 1 civilization
    These civilizations can effectively control the entire resources of their planet; they can predict weather patterns and earthquakes very accurately, and even control them using artificially induced greenhouse effects or space-based lasers. A Type 1 Civilization could conceivably halt an ice-age.

    Type 2 Civilization
    Type 2 Civilizations have extended their power to their entire Solar System by harnessing the power of their suns through Dyson spheres. Having colonized or at least extensively explored all the planets within their Solar System, they are a largely space-faring race and have already mounted expeditions to other stars using interstellar craft.

    Type 3 Civilization
    At the cusp of their power, type 3 civilizations span entire galaxies having colonized all the stars by wave after wave of interstellar craft. They can harness the power of galaxies. Astrophysicists theorize that this may be done by exploiting the fact that black holes can be used as a source of energy as they slowly evaporate via Hawking radiation. By utilizing the millions of black holes that are believed to reside within galactic nuclei, type 3 civilizations would have sufficient power to conduct truly universe-changing high-energy physics experiments and examine matter down to the Planck length.

    At this point, the exact potential of type 3 civilizations becomes unclear due to our hazy knowledge of ultrahigh-energy physics. It is conceivable (as physicists such as Michio Kaku and Lawrence Krauss believe) that such energies could unravel matter down to the super-string length and thus possibly access other dimensions. However, we must stress that this is only informed conjecture and frankly we'll never know what type 3 civilizations will be able to do until we either become one or encounter one.

  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Olfactogramm View Post
    If I recall correctly, this was done in the name of beauty. Same reason as Chinese foot binding and the Kayan people practice of neck binding. People will do anything just to be attractive to the opposite sex.
    saan po nalaman ng anciet tao ang concepto kung anu ang maganda o pangit?

    or kung ano ang masama at mabuti?

  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by ManilaBreed View Post
    Originally Posted by Manunuwag

    Di pa ba naman na abanteng abante na ang karunungang
    namamayani na sa sansinukob nating ito at ika mo nga ay
    aalialigid pa rin sila.
    .


    *Current status of human civilization

    Human civilization is currently somewhere below Type I, as it is able to harness only a portion of the energy that is available on Earth. The current state of human civilization has thus been named Type 0. Although intermediate values were not discussed in Kardashev's original proposal, Carl Sagan argued that they could easily be defined by interpolating and extrapolating the values given above. In 1973, he calculated humanity's civilization type to be 0.7, in relationship to Kardashev's model for Types 0 and I.

    Type 0 Civilization
    Essentially, our civilization. A type 0 civilization has only just begun to tap planetary resources such as solar power, geothermal power and wind power. Most of its power generation is still based on non-renewable fossil fuel resources, for example, oil, coal and natural gases.

    Type 1 civilization
    These civilizations can effectively control the entire resources of their planet; they can predict weather patterns and earthquakes very accurately, and even control them using artificially induced greenhouse effects or space-based lasers. A Type 1 Civilization could conceivably halt an ice-age.

    Type 2 Civilization
    Type 2 Civilizations have extended their power to their entire Solar System by harnessing the power of their suns through Dyson spheres. Having colonized or at least extensively explored all the planets within their Solar System, they are a largely space-faring race and have already mounted expeditions to other stars using interstellar craft.

    Type 3 Civilization
    At the cusp of their power, type 3 civilizations span entire galaxies having colonized all the stars by wave after wave of interstellar craft. They can harness the power of galaxies. Astrophysicists theorize that this may be done by exploiting the fact that black holes can be used as a source of energy as they slowly evaporate via Hawking radiation. By utilizing the millions of black holes that are believed to reside within galactic nuclei, type 3 civilizations would have sufficient power to conduct truly universe-changing high-energy physics experiments and examine matter down to the Planck length.

    At this point, the exact potential of type 3 civilizations becomes unclear due to our hazy knowledge of ultrahigh-energy physics. It is conceivable (as physicists such as Michio Kaku and Lawrence Krauss believe) that such energies could unravel matter down to the super-string length and thus possibly access other dimensions. However, we must stress that this is only informed conjecture and frankly we'll never know what type 3 civilizations will be able to do until we either become one or encounter one.
    very well said. thank you for explaining our current status as humans

  8. #328
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    After several pages of posts, Still no concrete proof of AAT are accepted by the scientific community

    And, a sports communication graduate with funny hair is not considered an authority in astronomy or any field that should be led by scientists. There goes the credibility card

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    Doombot is correct in the preamble of their theory; i.e., that all "gods" are aliens. Every religion seems to agree to that. What I find lacking is a clear enunciation of the AA theory. In contrast, Christianity describes a familiar story of God creating humans, interacting with them, sending his Son only to be killed, and then coming back to reward the good and punish the wicked. Secular science has a competing narrative that the universe acted on its own with no superior intelligence than its own. The narratives are clear, albeit at times too technical; but at least every critic has something to examine and critic on. I am not seeing that narrative yet in the AAT. There are mysteries accumulated, explained through interventions of high-tech aliens, but no coherent narrative. So, AAT is still in the process of theory formulation, and until they are finished with that process we cannot examine their theory. It cannot yet be categorized as a theory of the origin of man. With no central theory, it has no leg to stand on when critiquing specific events.

    For example in the story of the levitation of Elisha, there are competing explanations:

    Christianity: It is a miracle done by YHWH to bring his prophet to heaven.
    Secular science: It is just a myth invented by superstitious goatherds.
    AAT: It is an advanced space ship levitating Elisha to transport him to mother ship.

    While the first two explanations have coherence with their main narrative, the AAT explanation is just a stand-alone explanation, not connected to anything bigger than itself. It might as well compete with other equally whimsy explanations like a band of underworld midgets pushing Elisha with their unseen powers or a band of magic butterflies lifting the prophet. Unencumbered by the need to be consistent to a foundational narrative, one can invent an infinite number of explanations for the event. The need for a central theory that explains the Sumerian and Egyptian myths and tie them to other world wonders like Macchu Pichu, Angkor ***, Stonehenge, etc. including the ongoing beliefs of alien abduction. If one attempts to put all these together, I suspect it would be easy to see where inconsistencies, logical weaknesses and lack of evidence lie.

  10. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Doombot is correct in the preamble of their theory; i.e., that all "gods" are aliens. Every religion seems to agree to that. What I find lacking is a clear enunciation of the AA theory. In contrast, Christianity describes a familiar story of God creating humans, interacting with them, sending his Son only to be killed, and then coming back to reward the good and punish the wicked. Secular science has a competing narrative that the universe acted on its own with no superior intelligence than its own. The narratives are clear, albeit at times too technical; but at least every critic has something to examine and critic on. I am not seeing that narrative yet in the AAT. There are mysteries accumulated, explained through interventions of high-tech aliens, but no coherent narrative. So, AAT is still in the process of theory formulation, and until they are finished with that process we cannot examine their theory. It cannot yet be categorized as a theory of the origin of man. With no central theory, it has no leg to stand on when critiquing specific events.

    For example in the story of the levitation of Elisha, there are competing explanations:

    Christianity: It is a miracle done by YHWH to bring his prophet to heaven.
    Secular science: It is just a myth invented by superstitious goatherds.
    AAT: It is an advanced space ship levitating Elisha to transport him to mother ship.

    While the first two explanations have coherence with their main narrative, the AAT explanation is just a stand-alone explanation, not connected to anything bigger than itself. It might as well compete with other equally whimsy explanations like a band of underworld midgets pushing Elisha with their unseen powers or a band of magic butterflies lifting the prophet. Unencumbered by the need to be consistent to a foundational narrative, one can invent an infinite number of explanations for the event. The need for a central theory that explains the Sumerian and Egyptian myths and tie them to other world wonders like Macchu Pichu, Angkor ***, Stonehenge, etc. including the ongoing beliefs of alien abduction. If one attempts to put all these together, I suspect it would be easy to see where inconsistencies, logical weaknesses and lack of evidence lie.
    This is the reason why there is UFO religion, to fix all the issues.

    see in UFO religion we believe in God. It just so happen that the Gods are aliens. Regardless of what religion your into, your God is an alien,

    and The God/alien is responsible for the creation of man. It is also possible that different nations are raised by Different alien species. Which explains our difference in cultures.

    For me AAT is a alternative explanation to bridge the gap between religion and science.

    UFO religion: YHWH is ET and Elisha is lifted using some tractor beam like technology.
    Last edited by doombot; Nov 2, 2012 at 05:38 AM.

  11. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by OrionPax View Post
    After several pages of posts, Still no concrete proof of AAT are accepted by the scientific community

    And, a sports communication graduate with funny hair is not considered an authority in astronomy or any field that should be led by scientists. There goes the credibility card
    and there is still no concrete proof of jesus ressurection and other bible characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doombot View Post
    and there is still no concrete proof of jesus ressurection and other bible characters.
    Mali ka. Nakasulat lahat sa biblia yan.

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    I have not watched yung tv series pero epal lang ako with your usapan. If the definition of Alien is an entity na outside of this earth or not from this earth then yes God is an alien kasi He has existed even before earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razzer_rising View Post
    I have not watched yung tv series pero epal lang ako with your usapan. If the definition of Alien is an entity na outside of this earth or not from this earth then yes God is an alien kasi He has existed even before earth.
    Eh is Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Eh is Jesus?

    jesus is a alien half breed conceived thru artificial insemination.

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    Sabi ni Jesus di daw siya taga rito. Jn.8:23

    But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
    pero may mga kasama siyang mga aliens, at kapag di ka alien, hindi ka rin niya ililigtas. Sorry ka na lang, kaming mga alien green ang dugo namin. Jn.17:16

    They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.

  17. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by ManilaBreed View Post
    - "ok lets say they differ in shape because of the height, what about the width and diameter of it?
    Since they differ in sizes, of course they differ in width and perimeter (not diameter). Not just in height.

    you assume its different in shape and size but in design they both have similarities.
    But it's in the design where the Egyptian and Mesoamerican pyramids differ most conspicuously.

    Look at these:


    Pyramid of the Moon in Teotihuacan


    El Castillo in Chichen Itza


    Pyramid I topped with the Temple of the Jaguar in Tikal


    Pyramid of the Magician in Uxmal

    Even within Mesoamerica, the pyramids vary widely in style. The last pic, the Pyramid of the Magician does not even have a rectangular base. One thing that's common among all of them though is the presence of external stairways leading to the apex, which is apparently absent in the Egyptian models.

    This is what the Gizan pyramids of Egypt looked like in their heyday:



    No one could mistake these pyramids for the Mesoamerican models.

    what's the purpose of having same pyramid design, why not have different shapes like circles, squares, rectangle. pentagon, octagon, hexagon etc.. because they have the same imaginations..?
    Can a circle, rectangle or pentagon represent a mound (in the case of Egypt) or mountain (in the case of Mesoamerica)? The answer's pretty obvious.

    you said that our ancient ancestors is smart ***, yes i agree because they are, without any insult. but where did they get those ideas? just from imaginations? it doesnt convince me.
    They get their ideas from their myths. For example, the Egyptians in their creation myths had an idea of a primeval mound emerging from the watery chaos, which is inspired by the annual flood movements of the Nile. Should they wish to represent such mound architecturally, a pyramidal structure and not a cuboid structure is the most logical choice. Do people really need aliens to develop ideas? Duh.

    if you believe that we dont have any visitations from other worldly beings and we did it ourselves, then explain why egyptians are so smart? where did they get their dna's? being ugly or pretty , being black or white or asian is because you inherited those dna from your parents. who are their parents? (their egyptian parents just popped out from somewhere? apologies if my form of asking is rude but im just curious to get legit answers..
    at these questions. All humans have the capacity to be smart and if you're awed with the Egyptians for their cultural achievements, may I remind you that a lot of ancient ethnic groups apart from the Egyptians have great cultural and intellectual achievements as well.

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    Unfortunately, Religion is not science

    The best we can consider AAT is pseudoscience , not science, not religion


    Quote Originally Posted by doombot View Post
    and there is still no concrete proof of jesus ressurection and other bible characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doombot View Post
    and there is still no concrete proof of jesus ressurection and other bible characters.
    hahaha, using religion as an excuse for not being able to answer the lack of proof of AA theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Doombot is correct in the preamble of their theory; i.e., that all "gods" are aliens. Every religion seems to agree to that.
    Nope, some religions believe in gods who are born within them and live with them, not "aliens" in their society and least of all aliens from out of their world. The Egyptians had deified kings and the Romans had deified emperors. The Greeks thought that Zeus was born in a mountain in Crete and lived in a mountain in Pieria.

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