Goodbye to Haagen Dazs

[PorkChop :o)]

imbecile nga hahaha sorry can't help commenting

[imanh0rn]

imbecile nga hahaha sorry can't help commenting

is djaynitor known for that?

[commoner]

Come on folks, stop arguing with someone with an IQ of a pre-schooler. Sayang lang ang oras at brain cells niyo.

It's like teaching a grade 1 student calculus. Utter waste of time.

He doesn't even read our entire posts, he reads the first line then replies in an idiotic manner.

[imanh0rn]

Ano ba ito: 'pag barado na at wala nang ikatuwiran tirahin na lang iyong poster nang personal?

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actually hindi sila barado sayo

they're just expressing their opinion, may basis naman......

[imanh0rn]

Wala pang sumagot sa tanong: kung laganap ang corruption sa BoC at na-expose na ng media, BAKIT WALA PA RING NAGSAMPA NG KASO SA SANDIGANG BAYAN?

At bakit wala pa ring nahatulan ng corruption ang tiga-BoC? Bakit wala pa ring nakukulong na tiga-BoC?

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maybe you should do your own research....


http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/3...iganbayan.html

Retiring BOC official faces criminal raps before Sandiganbayan

MANILA — A Bureau of Customs (BOC) official, who is set to retire Thursday, will be facing criminal charges before the anti-graft court Sandiganbayan on the same day.
BOC Enforcement and Security Service Director Nestorio Gualberto will be retiring Thursday, Sept. 8. However, he will also be facing criminal charges before the Sandiganbayan's 3rd division.

please do READ more

of course while in power, tinatakpan ang mga ginawa. saka na pag may papasok na ibang officer na minsan karibal or something saka na na-e-expose lahat

btw, PENDING charges yan a long time ago, ngayon lang ma file dahil mag retire na sya at di na protected

so you were saying?

[imanh0rn]

yohooo djaynitor andyan ka pa?

[imanh0rn]

Isang kaso pa lang samantalang LAGANAP kuno ang corruption sa BoC? At pa-retire na iyong kakasuhan? RIDICULOUS at KATAWA-TAWANG nakakaawa!

Eto lang Haagen Dazs, kung iyong extortion talaga ang dahilan ng kanilang paglugi, nasaan ang kasong sinampa sa Sandigang Bayan laban sa BoC? Multinational ang Haagen Dazs, hindi maaaring walisin sa ilalim ng bahay ang ganitong uri ng kaso.

Kung laganap talaga, CLASS ACTION SUIT lang ang katapat niyan. Kung lalagda lahat ng negosyanteng kinotongan, walang paso ang kaso laban sa BoC!

Kaso walang class action suit. Bakit wala? Kasi PUMAPAYAG ang mga negosyante sa kotong dahil NAKIKINABANG din sila sa KOTONG! Tama ba o mali?

Bottomline: Ang corruption madaling sugpuin kung talagang lalabanan. Kaso hindi.

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hay nako, djaynitor, just because it's not reported on national television eh walang nangyayari na kaso

eto o, class action suit ito

http://philippinelawcases.blogspot.c...-329-scra.html

Bureau of Customs vs. Ogario, 329 SCRA 289 , G.R. No. 138081, March 30, 2000
G.R. No. 138081 March 30, 2000
THE BUREAU OF CUSTOMS (BOC) and THE ECONOMIC INTELLIGENCE AND INVESTIGATION BUREAU (EIIB), petitioners,
vs.
NELSON OGARIO and MARK MONTELIBANO, respondents.

http://philippinelawcases.blogspot.c...-329-scra.html

again DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH

hay nako, that class action suit in a nutshell

the BOC halted the unloading of the rice with allegations na "smuggled" ang rice, indirectly nanghihingi sila ng lagay para ma unload ang rice kahit na di naman totoo na smuggled ang rice

4.) That upon arrival of the herein-mentioned sacks of rice at the PIER 5 of Cebu City, Philippines on the 7th day of December 1998 all of the defendants rushed to the port with long arms commanding the plaintiff's laborer[s] to stopped [sic] the unloading of the same from the vessel named M/V Alberto. The defendants alleged that the herein-mentioned rice were [sic] smuggled from abroad without even proof that the same were [sic] purchased from a particularly country.

nanalo ang plaintiff btw, defendant ang BOC


seriously, do your own research.

[imanh0rn]

maraming cases na ganyan, most of them are not reported on national TV dahil damaging naman talaga on the part of the Gov't

most of them are found in local newspapers

try to read the business area, most are written in legal jargon

furthermore, some feel the legal expenses to fight with BOC are too high to justify the shipment in question

my personal experience during the time when havianas were very popular and not yet sold in the Philippines. An aunt of mine sent me a pair that costs only Php 1,500 (USD converted to PHP) the BOC did not release the item and were charging me Php 2,000 just to claim the pair of slippers.

[imanh0rn]

^^Ilan ang nakulong sa class action suit na ito?

Higit sa lahat: bakit pumapayag ang mga negosyante sa kotong kung hindi rin sila nakikinabang?

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wow, i'm starting to think na imbecile ka nga

1. not all suits end up in jail, at worst the losing party PAYS fines

10.) That by way of example or correction for the public good and to deter the defendants from doing the same acts to other businessmen, defendants should be held liable for exemplary damages in amount of not less than One Hundred Thousand Pesos (P100,000.00).

http://philippinelawcases.blogspot.c...-329-scra.html

2. As I've posted, the BOC is not doing anything illegal by withholding his signature. nagpapahabol sya sa mga negosyante.

and again, do your own dang research marami dyan PENDING pa most especially with cars, equipment and even ordinary items found in BALIKBAYAN BOXES

as for Haagen Daz, it was the article that presumed of the BOC corruption. read it again. walang official statement from Haagen Daaz denouncing BOC, awright?

reposting for posterity's sake

Biz Buzz: High flyers go bust
By: the staff
Philippine Daily Inquirer
1:00 am | Wednesday, August 8th, 2012

To the followers of imported ice cream Haagen Dazs, and other sweet stuff like Pillsbury and Sara Lee, did you know that the last one you ate may be your last? The firm that imports these goods is already leaving the country. Over the past weeks, they have been selling the stuff on sale to get rid of stocks.

But the bigger story than the sale is why they left.

It was not because the food did not taste good. It was because they could not tolerate a corrupt Bureau of Customs official they had to deal with when importing the goods. Our sources said that instead of haggling over tariffs to pay in order for them to get their stocks past Customs, they decided to simply forget the Philippine market.

An importer who admitted to paying bribe money for the importation (of other goods) said the situation at the BoC has actually gotten worse under the current administration because grafters no longer state the price they wanted… but importers have to make sure they pay a high rate for the Customs officials to “mind the goods” and bring them in.

Guess the “matuwid na daan” thrust skipped some Customs officials.Margie Quimpo-Espino

http://business.inquirer.net/75485/b...flyers-go-bust

included information about the title and the author

klaro na djaynitor? "our sources said" is not the same as "official statement"

[imanh0rn]

^^Therefore CHISMIS lang iyong BoC corruption ang dahilan kung bakit aalis ang Haagen Dazs sa 'Pinas. Therefore PULPOL iyong nagsimula ng thread na ito ... walang dagdag, walang bawas!

Tama ba o mali?

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you were also one of the people who substantiated that rumor.

pero as far as "chismis" is considered.

"Where there's smoke, there's fire"

Anyways, totoo ang tariffs of items. In fact the BOC can "talk" to importers and "haggle", totoo yan. Even Biazon himself admits that the BOC can be corrupted

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php...bsolete-biazon

Current Tariffs Code obsolete –Biazon
....
“One of the loopholes of the Customs system is the opportunities for connivance between importers, brokers and Customs personnel,” Biazon said, adding that less person-to-person transactions would mean less smuggling and less corruption.
....

So does that answer everything djaynitor?

[rehan]

Gahd! Some people just won't shut up.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."



Sorry offTopic but I just can't help it.

Edit: Hanga naman ako sa pasensya na sir imanh0rn.

[kuroihikari]

The businessman has no sworn duty to enforce the republic's laws. The custom's official, however, does.

Like I said in an earlier post, corruption can only be cured if the customs officers are held liable for it.

[amsm07]

Gahd! Some people just won't shut up.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."



Sorry offTopic but I just can't help it.

Edit: Hanga naman ako sa pasensya na sir imanh0rn.

haha IKR? napaka eyesore lang ng posts. sometimes i have to wonder if it's just an act, a "full retard" act or if he's for real.

[kuroihikari]

Mas maganda kung baguhin ang batas para iyong mga NANUNUHOL ang lumalabag sa batas at hindi iyong KUMOKOTONG. Tingnan natin kung hindi mawala ang kotong na iyan.

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I'm pretty sure bribery is already a crime. That's not such a groundbreaking idea as you would like to make it.

[imanh0rn]

i guess naunahan na ako ni kuro hehehe

now to leave this thread while I enjoy my bread with IMPORTED Nutella chocolate spread *yum* kain tayo

*as kuro stated it already, di na ako mag post ng Republic act that criminalizes bribery lol

[kuroihikari]

Hindi ako sang-ayon for reasons I already stated: Going after private individuals will not solve the problem. They can stop bribing all they want, but unless the BoC reforms its people only the businessmen will be losing.

Until the system stops rewarding people for taking a risk of committing a crime nothing will happen.

*as kuro stated it already, di na ako mag post ng Republic act that criminalizes bribery lol

. Just for reference of djaynitor, it's in the Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act. Section 4 (Prohibition on private individuals).

[djaynitor]

Hindi ako sang-ayon for reasons I already stated: Going after private individuals will not solve the problem. They can stop bribing all they want, but unless the BoC reforms its people only the businessmen will be losing.

Until the system stops rewarding people for taking a risk of committing a crime nothing will happen.

Catch 22: hindi mo masisisi ang mga nangongotong kung kusang inaabot sa iyo ang suhol. At hindi rin magsasampa ng kaso ang nanunuhol dahil bukod sa nakikinabang sila - dahil krimen din ang panunuhol - SABIT din sila sa kaso.

Bottomline: CORRUPT talaga ang Pinoy - BoC at negosyante - kaya kailan man hindi mawawala ang CORRUPTION. Iyong nagrereklamo sa corruption na nanunuhol naman - MGA HYPOCRITE!

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[imanh0rn]

Catch 22: hindi mo masisisi ang mga nangongotong kung kusang inaabot sa iyo ang suhol. At hindi rin magsasampa ng kaso ang nanunuhol dahil bukod sa nakikinabang sila - dahil krimen din ang panunuhol - SABIT din sila sa kaso.

Bottomline: CORRUPT talaga ang Pinoy - BoC at negosyante - kaya kailan man hindi mawawala ang CORRUPTION. Iyong nagrereklamo sa corruption na nanunuhol naman - MGA HYPOCRITE!

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i already told you djaynitor... maraming cases against BOC hindi lang televised. if you want, access any law library and take a look at thousands of cases against BOC officials.

siguro naman kung may kaso against BOC, it means the businessmen did not tolerate BOC asking for "lagay"

as for this thread, we are debating the article written by Inquirer

you're the one who pulled the bribery-BOC thing into this issue

[djaynitor]

i already told you djaynitor... maraming cases against BOC hindi lang televised. if you want, access any law library and take a look at thousands of cases against BOC officials.

siguro naman kung may kaso against BOC, it means the businessmen did not tolerate BOC asking for "lagay"

as for this thread, we are debating the article written by Inquirer

you're the one who pulled the bribery-BOC thing into this issue

Ang punto ko FEW AND FAR BETWEEN ang mga kaso laban sa BoC....

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[imanh0rn]

Ang punto ko FEW AND FAR BETWEEN ang mga kaso laban sa BoC....

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again, check the law libs

as I've said, just because hindi naibalita sa TV, it doesn't mean na KONTI o WALA

just imagine kung lahat ng law suits ibalita sa TV. magiging 3 hours a day ang isang episode ng TV patrol just for the reporting of law suits.

and kung merong katiwalian, tama si Kuro, in terms of responsibility, mas may pananagutan ang BOC compared to businessmen.

so can you take a hint already?