What really happens when you die (according the the bible)

[Lola_Rose]

What really happens when you die? Here's what the Bible says-- and it's very different from the Catholic teachings.

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[sophion]

ito nanaman??? didnt you already create a thread like this last year?

[Lola_Rose]

Hindi ah. Bago yan. Saka ito video.

[sophion]

2/3 of that video is about ghosts. But FYI, Catholics believe that:

the popular idea that they are the spirits of human souls who have died and are trapped here for some reason is not possible. They are much more likely to be demons disguising themselves as the “ghost” or spirit of a human being for the purpose of leading people away from the true faith.

http://bfhu.wordpress.com/2008/11/20...eve-in-ghosts/


the real difference between RCC and INC belief in the afterlife is that Catholics believe that the dead are judged right away. While INC, like most other Protestant churches, believe that the dead sleep until judgment day.

[Bigot3AtBalbas]

Paano naman ang ibang hayop? Ano pwede nilang gawin para makapunta ng langit? Ano ang ginawa ng manok ni san pedro para makapunta ng langit?

[Milliardo]

2/3 of that video is about ghosts. But FYI, Catholics believe that:

the popular idea that they are the spirits of human souls who have died and are trapped here for some reason is not possible. They are much more likely to be demons disguising themselves as the “ghost” or spirit of a human being for the purpose of leading people away from the true faith.

http://bfhu.wordpress.com/2008/11/20...eve-in-ghosts/


the real difference between RCC and INC belief in the afterlife is that Catholics believe that the dead are judged right away. While INC, like most other Protestant churches, believe that the dead sleep until judgment day.

Soul sleep. Not all Protestants believe this, or even most. Lutherans I think don't believe this. Ditto for Anglicans/Episcopalians. I have met some Baptists who believe in this. I am not sure as to what Presbyterians believe in, but I think like most mainline Protestants they don't subscribe to it, either.

[Ateo]

@Sophion, while Catholics may be judged immediately, don't you think they are placed On Probation is Purgatory? Prayers for the dead would be useless if the judgment was final and executory.

[Ferdinand]

Straight from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

I. THE PARTICULAR JUDGMENT
1021 Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ.592 The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul--a destiny which can be different for some and for others.593

1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597

592 Cf. 2 Tim 1:9-10.
593 Cf. Lk 16:22; 23:43; Mt 16:26; 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23; Heb 9:27; 12:23.
594 Cf. Council of Lyons II (1274)DS 857-858; Council of Florence (1439)DS 1304- 1306; Council of Trent (1563)DS 1820.
595 Cf. Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336)DS 1000-1001; John XXII, Ne super his (1334)DS 990.
596 Cf. Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336)DS 1002.
597 St. John of the Cross, Dichos 64.


Can INCs here prove from the history of the Church that your belief is the belief of the early Christians? I don't think so. Kelan lang yang mga EISIGESIS ninyo!

[Ateo]

So if Cory has received "the eternal retribution of his immortal soul", what is the use of praying for her soul?

[marcus_hunt]

This is like debating on what brand of cigar the kapre smokes.

[Ferdinand]

Let me throw back the question to you... so 'what is the use of praying for her soul?'

[Ateo]

Let me throw back the question to you... so 'what is the use of praying for her soul?'

MONEY!!!! Alam mo ba magkano magpamisa ng patay, lalo na kung loaded tulad ni Cory? Alam ko, dati akong sakristan (pero di ako type ni padre kasi babae na choir member ang type niya.)

Kung judged na nga si Cory at the moment of death, e di wala ng silbe ang pamisa, pwera na lang kung may kumikita, di ba?

[Ferdinand]

Sabi ko na nga ba ateong ateo ang magiging sagot mo eh, materialistic!

Try the spiritual value of prayers.

[PgUp]

Hindi ah. Bago yan. Saka ito video.

Pasensiya na poh, takot kasi sa kamatayan yan si sophion. Kun si Kristo nga ipinagkaloob ang sariling buhay para ipakita na meron buhay na walang hanggan.

[Ateo]

You are losing your theological logic. Judged na nga si Cory at the moment na namatay siya, so wala ng silbe ang additional prayers. Pero sa convento, may silbe ang pamisa. Kulang ang pang-down-payment ng Pajero eh.

[Ferdinand]

You are losing your theological logic. Judged na nga si Cory at the moment na namatay siya, so wala ng silbe ang additional prayers. Pero sa convento, may silbe ang pamisa. Kulang ang pang-down-payment ng Pajero eh.

As usual hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo, nagdudunung-dunungan ka lang. Hindi muna kita papatulan, gawin mo muna ang assignment mo at i-research mo kung ano ang theological value ng prayer to the person praying REGARDLESS of what the outcome is. Kasi kayong mga ateo, materialistic at nagdudunung-dunungan lang tungkol sa Christianity.

[aajao]

related thread we discussed here in ROT years ago

Where Do The Souls Of the Dead Go?

[Smellmahbrah]

LOL kay ateo. . Sir atheist kaba or ano?? Sorry noob pa kasi ako dito sa forums eh.

[marcus_hunt]

As usual hindi mo alam ang sinasabi mo, nagdudunung-dunungan ka lang. Hindi muna kita papatulan, gawin mo muna ang assignment mo at i-research mo kung ano ang theological value ng prayer to the person praying REGARDLESS of what the outcome is. Kasi kayong mga ateo, materialistic at nagdudunung-dunungan lang tungkol sa Christianity.

ferds, value for the person praying ba? Akala ko kasi yun effect/value ng dasal dun sa dinadasalan ang tinatanong ni Ateo.

Clarification lang.

[Ateo]

LOL kay ateo. . Sir atheist kaba or ano?? Sorry noob pa kasi ako dito sa forums eh.

Thanks for enjoying my post. Di nakuha ni Ferdinand eh.

Btw, Ateo = Atheist. One is Spanish, the other is English. :-)