Motorcycle helmet law enforcement suspended

[xctrekker]

If your ANSI/SNELL certified bell evo does not have an ICC sticker its considered substandard until you get an ICC sticker for it, using this law's logic.

Aye! That's the rub.

Dapat talaga ginawa na lang nilang prospective ang application ng ICC stickers for helmets. Natulog kasi sa pancitan ang DTI. Dapat noong early 2000s nang nagsimula nang tumaas ang scooter/motorcycle sales inagapan na sana nila ang pag-screen sa substandard helmets.

[marcus_hunt]

Aye! That's the rub.

Dapat talaga ginawa na lang nilang prospective ang application ng ICC stickers for helmets. Natulog kasi sa pancitan ang DTI. Dapat noong early 2000s nang nagsimula nang tumaas ang scooter/motorcycle sales inagapan na sana nila ang pag-screen sa substandard helmets.

Then again its better late than never. Yun lang talagang ICC stickers requirement for users ang sablay.

Sari sari na ang naisip nilang laws for riders. Knee jerk reactions, tinangka nila yun license plate number on helmets at no modifications like officers can tell whats a modified bike and whats all stock. And why motorcycles lang? Theres an LTO AO that defines protective devices that includes heavy pants, heavy jackets, leather boots and get this, rain suit. Imagine those who use their bikes for daily commutes wearing all of these under the heat of the summer sun. Ako nga 2hrs lang using the protective gears i have, kapagod at maiinit na. Paano pa yung araw araw yun ang gamit? Ewan ko kung safe ka pa nyan pag nahilo ka na sa init. Kahit nga pag umuulan maiinit yan. Ganyan na rin ba outfit ng mga riding police at mga hagad? And how heavy is heavy? I remember bawal din ang loud pipes at sirens, so how loud is loud? May pangtimbang ba sila at decibel meters?

Kulang na lang ipagbawal nila ang motorcycle commuters. Kawawa naman yun gusto magtipid.

If they are really after the safety of the riders and the roads = Strikto dapat ang pagkuha ng license. Lahat ng restriction numbers. And vehicle registration. Yan yung root cause. No helmet no travel strict implementation. Theres not much you can do naman talaga when motorcycle accidents happen. Even with all those protective equipments, kung 16W truck ang aararo sa iyo dahil nawalan ng preno because not well maintained at substandard ang parts na gamit eh wala rin. Its the reality with riders. The most you can do is be a better rider.

[paenggoy]

kasi ang tricycle hindi mo na kaylangan mag balance hindi kagaya ng motor na pag bumangga ka eh tatalsik ka talaga.

From what I know, a tricycle can lose balance while turning at higher speeds. I do not know if anyone side-straddled behind the driver will be protected even by an enclosure, and some tricycles don't have enclosures for the cab.

And as pointed out by others, if safety measures will be required of the driver, then the same will probably have to take place for the vehicle. That means standards to be followed for tricycles (and jeepneys), insurance requirements, and probably even following the Clean Air Act.

[Nietono_no_Shana]

@Revelations

Half helmets are allowed by law in the USA and British Standard, better check with the proper authorities why they don't allow bell helmet (I have no idea if they really don't).

IMHO the reason for the different standard for tricycle and motorcycles are the following:

1. A tricycle has three (3) wheels thus it doesn't need to be be balanced when being used, unlike a common motorcycle which only have two (2).
2. The general cruising speed of a tricycles is usually around 30kph, unlike a motorcycle which is 60 - 80kph.
3. The structure of the tricycle somewhat protects the driver (theoretical), unlike in a motorcycle where the driver is expose.



@marcus_hunt

I don't see any problem in having your helmet inspected, except that it will take some time.

Since the ICC sticker will be mandatory then fining user of helmets without ICC sticker will be normal, how do you expect people to comply if there will be penalties, specially in the Philippines.

As I have said earlier, you could always raise you concern to the proper authorities.

[marcus_hunt]

^ of course i can ask someone to do it for me or just buy a new one. But this isnt about it being a burden but if its just.

ICC stickers are mandatory on other products too not just helmets, will they be punishing users of products that does not have them stickers? NO. So why single out helmets? This isnt about safety for sure, since like ive said ICC stickers does not compare to SNELL/DOT etc.

re raising concern, i dont expect them to be heard unless riders use their numbers. now i am beginning to think that the government aims to lessen the number of pinoys on two wheels on our streets.

re trycycles, helmets protect the head. your head is hardly protected when driving or riding tricycles. in cars, you have the seat belts and bags. ok na sa aking wala silang helmet, its the drivers prerogative basta wala sila sa main thoroughfares. may dinadaanan akong steep incline roads, merong tricycles na dumadaan dun. katakot.

[Nietono_no_Shana]

@marcus_hunt

If you wouldn't raise your concern to the proper authorities then you will just maintain the status quo.

[Roborat9]

^ of course i can ask someone to do it for me or just buy a new one. But this isnt about it being a burden but if its just.

ICC stickers are mandatory on other products too not just helmets, will they be punishing users of products that does not have them stickers? NO. So why single out helmets? This isnt about safety for sure, since like ive said ICC stickers does not compare to SNELL/DOT etc.

re raising concern, i dont expect them to be heard unless riders use their numbers. now i am beginning to think that the government aims to lessen the number of pinoys on two wheels on our streets.

re trycycles, helmets protect the head. your head is hardly protected when driving or riding tricycles. in cars, you have the seat belts and bags. ok na sa aking wala silang helmet, its the drivers prerogative basta wala sila sa main thoroughfares. may dinadaanan akong steep incline roads, merong tricycles na dumadaan dun. katakot.

If the govt wants to minimize the numbers of undisciplined motorcycle drivers on the road then so be it..pag nabangga ng mga kotse ang nakamotor sino may kasalanan eh di yung kotse lagi kahit na yung mga kaskasero yung nakamotor...i mean having your helmets ICC compliant is not even to be an issue...kung want magtipid sa helmet eh di mag waiver kayo na hindi kayo dapat tulungan ng mga ambulansya ng govt kasi hindi certified life saver ang mga helmet na gamit ninyo....

I had a friend way back 2007 and he spent his money on modifying his motorcycle and spent roughly 20k for mods etc which I also saw on most motorcycle rides nowadays..he cheap up on his helmet buying that index helmet...he got his by a vehicle he flew and crack his head on the asphalt and DOA then later the investigator said that his life could have been saved by a sturdier helmet...If most riders right now hindi naman tayo bulag kung ilan ang gumagastos sa pagpapalit ng mags,gulong,accessories,muffler,etc etc etc pero pagdating sa helmet na magliligtas sa buhay nila titipirin??? I mean where is the common sense in that???

[paenggoy]

IMHO the reason for the different standard for tricycle and motorcycles are the following:

1. A tricycle has three (3) wheels thus it doesn't need to be be balanced when being used, unlike a common motorcycle which only have two (2).
2. The general cruising speed of a tricycles is usually around 30kph, unlike a motorcycle which is 60 - 80kph.
3. The structure of the tricycle somewhat protects the driver (theoretical), unlike in a motorcycle where the driver is expose.

Usually, for vehicles that don't need to be balanced, seat belts are used. They are not required for jeepneys, though, except for the driver. For buses, some units have seat belts for passengers.

I think accidents can happen even at a lower cruising speed, especially if the tricycle is forced to make a turn without slowing down.

From what I see, the structure protects the passenger closer to the driver but probably not the one near the cab entry, the driver, and others seated behind the driver.