2012 PBA Awards

[lawgone]

Thanks JPM. Ang galing ng memory! I wonder how old are you, haha. You remind me of one of my clients in the advertising industry, ang daming alam sa basketball history haha.

@jacel27

All of this "RUNAWAY MVP" winners have something in common.. they were BPC and Champion in the Philippine Cup and their teams are playoff contender the entire season.

Oo nga noh. The AFC is indeed the most important conference. Sana pala ilagay sa middle or last conference to para mas may impact sa MVP candidates.

This year's Governor's Cup has done wonders for most of the awardees including the ROY winner.

[jacel27]

[QUOTE=Jay P. Mercado;63962031]
The question is - why did media do this? One doesn't have to look far - when you hear of MVP candidates "wooing" media to vote for them, that isn't as simple as a phone call or a wallpaper endorsing himself to them. It would take more than that - an expensive endeavor as well. That will never be proven of course but oftentimes, when you hear of such allegations, the better option really is to review the mechanics and avoid similar allegations to sprout in the future. Curiously, the PBA has never lifted its hand in changing such approach - except in the case of averaging the statistical points instead of counting these cumulatively.[/QUOTE]

Sir ano ba difference ng average at cumulative? anong effect nito sa SPS at sa tingin nyo, ano mas magandang gamitin?

Kasi dahil sa average, nanalo si MC47 ng BPC kahit di sya naglaro sa semis. Parang pangit nga naman yung ganong system.

[Jay P. Mercado]

Oh no, Jacel, the averaging system is definitely much better than the cumulative system.

The cumulative system awards the player with the most number of games played. This assures players of teams that go deep into the playoffs to top the statistical race since they get to play more games. Let's put it this way:

Gary David - tallied 1,400 points after playing 35 games
Aaron Aban - tallied 1,401 points after playing 70 games

Cumulatively, Aban beats David in the stats race because he garnered more stat points than David, 1,401 to 1,400. But on a per game average, David had a scintillating 35 stat points per game while Aban had 17.5 stat points. How did Aban end up with more points? Simply because he played more games. If he averaged 9 ppg, 5 rpg, and 3 apg, then he would pretty much beaten David who probably averaged close to 25 ppg, 6 rpg and 4 apg based on the hypothetical stat figures given.

The argument in the past, why this was used until 2007, was that this rewards players from teams that do well for the season. When Alvin Patrimonio topped the stats race in 1989 with Ramon Fernandez placing 2nd and Benjie Paras ending up 3rd, you can imagine how scintillating Patrimonio's performance was considering this was SMB's banner year of winning the Slam. Hence, not only did Fernandez end up with more games played, he also had more bonus points gained from won games. At that time, the stat race included bonus points for winning games. Ultimately, Benjie Paras ended up with the MVP award.

[popsky]

Sir JPM, sa ngayon ba walang bonus points kapag nakapasok sa quarters/semis or finals ang team mo?

[jacel27]

Thanks for the inputs Sir Jay.

So hindi naman pala pangit yung Average System. Nagkataon lang talaga siguro na nung Commisioner's Cup, lahat ng nasa top 5 ay di nakapaglaro ng semis at wala sa mga naglaro sa semis ang umabot sa top 5.

[tambayan101]

JPM, me data ka ba dyan ng breakdown ng MVP votes from SP,media,players and commish office? Dati kasi binabanggit yan sa awards. TIA

[Jay P. Mercado]

Yes, I haven't seen the tabulation of the MVP votes. I'm sure there is somewhere, but surprisingly, it hasn't been released yet by media.

[tambayan101]

Yes, I haven't seen the tabulation of the MVP votes. I'm sure there is somewhere, but surprisingly, it hasn't been released yet by media.

I hope my press release para may transparency.

Di ba meron pang PBA Press Corps Awards dati? Nasaan na nga ba to?

[yoying00]

sa FB Twitter meron na nito e, sana me makapagpost dito. lumamang si MC sa media/pba players/pba office.

[forg]

Just wanna say, I love reading Jay P. Mercado's posts, informative

[ventrilokwist]

Oh no, Jacel, the averaging system is definitely much better than the cumulative system.

The cumulative system awards the player with the most number of games played. This assures players of teams that go deep into the playoffs to top the statistical race since they get to play more games. Let's put it this way:

Gary David - tallied 1,400 points after playing 35 games
Aaron Aban - tallied 1,401 points after playing 70 games

Cumulatively, Aban beats David in the stats race because he garnered more stat points than David, 1,401 to 1,400. But on a per game average, David had a scintillating 35 stat points per game while Aban had 17.5 stat points. How did Aban end up with more points? Simply because he played more games. If he averaged 9 ppg, 5 rpg, and 3 apg, then he would pretty much beaten David who probably averaged close to 25 ppg, 6 rpg and 4 apg based on the hypothetical stat figures given.

The argument in the past, why this was used until 2007, was that this rewards players from teams that do well for the season. When Alvin Patrimonio topped the stats race in 1989 with Ramon Fernandez placing 2nd and Benjie Paras ending up 3rd, you can imagine how scintillating Patrimonio's performance was considering this was SMB's banner year of winning the Slam. Hence, not only did Fernandez end up with more games played, he also had more bonus points gained from won games. At that time, the stat race included bonus points for winning games. Ultimately, Benjie Paras ended up with the MVP award.

Right Sir JPM. Averaging stats is so much better than the cumulative stats. If I'm not mistaken, the last time the cumulative stats was used was during the 2005-06 season. Naalala ko that year, kasama sa Mythical 5 sila James Yap, Lordy Tugade, Enrico V, Kerby and guess what... Roger Yap. R. Yap's inclusion into the first mythical team raised many eyebrows as he was just so-so throughout the season. And what apparently put him there instead of more deserving players like Caguioa and D. Seigle? Yes, the cumulative stats.

Same thing happened in 2004-05 season, when Peña was included in the 1st mythical team even if he wasn't good enough to be included even in the 2nd mythical team. Cumulative stats, as well as the media votes, pushed him up there.

Funny, coz after the 2005-06 season, the PBA has started to implement the averaging stats. Perhaps the PBA has learned its lesson from the eyebrow-raising results it incurred in the previous years.

[darkwind]

Oh no, Jacel, the averaging system is definitely much better than the cumulative system.

The cumulative system awards the player with the most number of games played. This assures players of teams that go deep into the playoffs to top the statistical race since they get to play more games. Let's put it this way:

Gary David - tallied 1,400 points after playing 35 games
Aaron Aban - tallied 1,401 points after playing 70 games

Cumulatively, Aban beats David in the stats race because he garnered more stat points than David, 1,401 to 1,400. But on a per game average, David had a scintillating 35 stat points per game while Aban had 17.5 stat points. How did Aban end up with more points? Simply because he played more games. If he averaged 9 ppg, 5 rpg, and 3 apg, then he would pretty much beaten David who probably averaged close to 25 ppg, 6 rpg and 4 apg based on the hypothetical stat figures given.

The argument in the past, why this was used until 2007, was that this rewards players from teams that do well for the season. When Alvin Patrimonio topped the stats race in 1989 with Ramon Fernandez placing 2nd and Benjie Paras ending up 3rd, you can imagine how scintillating Patrimonio's performance was considering this was SMB's banner year of winning the Slam. Hence, not only did Fernandez end up with more games played, he also had more bonus points gained from won games. At that time, the stat race included bonus points for winning games. Ultimately, Benjie Paras ended up with the MVP award.

The bonus points are still given every won game. 10 points From Eliminations up to the Semifinals and 15 points in the Finals.

[mYke d' spYke]

Sa pagkatalo ng BMEG sa RoS mukhang si Chot na naman magiging coach of the year...

[yoying00]

Yeng Guiao pwede? AFC -Semis Gov. Cup - Champion
Tim Cone - AFC - Quarter Comm,Cup - Champion Gov.Cup. 1st runner
Chot - AFC - Champion Comm.Cup-1sr runner up Gov.Cup semis - mukhang si Chot nga

[Jay P. Mercado]

Yes, Chot Reyes looms as the favorite to win Coach of the Year honors, especially considering that his team won the most prestigious conference, the All Filipino.

Tim Cone is running closely behind on account of his championship and runner-up finish. Yeng Guiao is running third although the intangible element here is that he steered a superstar-less ROS team to its maiden title.

Yet, I still think Reyes is the favorite to win the Coach of the Year honors.

[darkwind]

I hope my press release para may transparency.

Di ba meron pang PBA Press Corps Awards dati? Nasaan na nga ba to?

The PBA Press Corps gives their awards during the offseason

[mYke d' spYke]

^^plus 2 rare feat pa na-accomplished ng TnT this season, makabalik from 1-3 deficit at madefend AFC crown