Apostates in Islam should be Killed?

[totben331]

Ay engot talaga

Yung galing sa utak ni bani eh opinyon lang niya, yung galing sa dictionary na pinipilit nyang kontrahin eh generally accepted na.

Bakit ko papaniwalaan yung opinyun ni bani kung kokontra ito sa isang dictionary? Ikaw talaga bentot hindi ka nag-iisip!

utak pa rin ng tao ang pinanggalingan ng dictionary.

di ka lulusot

[TLG]

utak pa rin ng tao ang pinanggalingan ng dictionary.

di ka lulusot

Ang hirap makipag-usap sa t@nga!

[totben331]

napaka logical nga ng tanong ni bani eh, sasalagin mo ng dictionary?

mali kasi kayo kung gumamit ng dictionary kaya napa praning kayo

[TLG]

napaka logical nga ng tanong ni bani eh, sasalagin mo ng dictionary?

mali kasi kayo kung gumamit ng dictionary kaya napa praning kayo

Magkalevel nga kayo ng utak ni bani!

[totben331]

Magkalevel nga kayo ng utak ni bani!

o kita mo na, di mo alam kung ano ang logical na tanong...sabagay di mo nga makukuha kasi ala ka naman logic.

ngapala...ang paggamit ng dictionary, inaapplayan ng logic

[TLG]

o kita mo na, di mo alam kung ano ang logical na tanong...sabagay di mo nga makukuha kasi ala ka naman logic.

ngapala...ang paggamit ng dictionary, inaapplayan ng logic

Hindi mo nga naunawaan itong post ko eh

"Yung galing sa utak ni bani eh opinyon lang niya, yung galing sa dictionary na pinipilit nyang kontrahin eh generally accepted na.

Bakit ko papaniwalaan yung opinyun ni bani kung kokontra ito sa isang dictionary? Ikaw talaga bentot hindi ka nag-iisip!"

Pag na-explain mo na sa akin ang gusto kong ipabatid diyan doon pa lang kita seseryosohin!

[totben331]

Hindi mo nga naunawaan itong post ko eh

"Yung galing sa utak ni bani eh opinyon lang niya, yung galing sa dictionary na pinipilit nyang kontrahin eh generally accepted na.

Bakit ko papaniwalaan yung opinyun ni bani kung kokontra ito sa isang dictionary? Ikaw talaga bentot hindi ka nag-iisip!"

Pag na-explain mo na sa akin ang gusto kong ipabatid diyan doon pa lang kita seseryosohin!

ano ba kasi ang kinalaman ng dictionary sa tanong ni bani na very logical naman...sagutin nyo ng logical din, di yung mag-aalibi ka ng dictionary...

[TLG]

ano ba kasi ang kinalaman ng dictionary sa tanong ni bani na very logical naman...sagutin nyo ng logical din, di yung mag-aalibi ka ng dictionary...

Ano daw ba yung definition ng apostate according to arabic-english dictionary?

Definition & Synonyms
• Apostate

(a.) Pertaining to, or characterized by, apostasy; faithless to moral allegiance; renegade.

Dyan pa lang wala nang laban si banimalek eh, pero pagbibigyan kita eto ang depensa ni banimalek

Banimalek:

What means (But if they turn renegades) ?

what if they not turn renegades, papatayin din ba?

if we used the dictionary w/c means renegades=apostates, ang ibig sabihin lang dun sa verse ay yung mga hindi papatayin is yung mga hindi apostates.

Kahit yungh depensa ni banimalek na "so saan diyan sinabing patayin ang apostates, ang sabi diyan patayin kung nagtaksil", sabihin mo nga sa akin bentot, hindi nyo ba kinokonsider na pagtataksil sa islam pag ang isang muslim eh umalis sa pagka-muslim?

[totben331]

oh ang liwanag ng tanong eh...

papano raw kung hindi nag turn na renegade, ano ang gagawin...papatayin ba?

yun ang sagutin nyo muna.

then saka nyo ituloy dun sa pagtataksil...na dapat patayin.

[TLG]

oh ang liwanag ng tanong eh...

papano raw kung hindi nag turn na renegade, ano ang gagawin...papatayin ba?

yun ang sagutin nyo muna.

then saka nyo ituloy dun sa pagtataksil...na dapat patayin.

Halatang hindi ka nagbabasa!

Eto post ko ulit!

if we used the dictionary w/c means renegades=apostates, ang ibig sabihin lang dun sa verse ay yung mga hindi papatayin is yung mga hindi apostates.

[Bigot3AtBalbas]

utak pa rin ng tao ang pinanggalingan ng dictionary.

di ka lulusot

ha ha ano bang klaseng kabobohan yan pards?

Pogi: What is a moron?

Webster: A moron is a person affected with mild mental retardation.

Totben bob0: Opinion lang ni webster yan

[totben331]

ha ha ano bang klaseng kabobohan yan pards?

Pogi: What is a moron?

Webster: A moron is a person affected with mild mental retardation.

Totben bob0: Opinion lang ni webster yan

di mo rin nakuha noh...masyadong malalim para sa utak mo.

[tonton]

If we read the Quran alone, there is no verse there that says apostates should be killed. Instead, disbelievers (obviously, apostates fall in that category) are left alone to enjoy, and it is up to God to punish them, never anybody else, if they are due for it. Yan ang essence ng freedom of religion ng mga democracia, hindi katulad sa ibang bansa na walang demokrasya na bawal magpractice ng relihiyon mo kung iba sa kanila.

15:3 Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know.

18:29 And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; evil the drink and ill the resting-place.

Napanuod ko sa youtube isang Muslim pinaninindigan na dapat patayin ang mga heretic at mga apostates, pero Umaalma si banimalek

[video=youtube;ASzIT6tbAqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzIT6tbAqc

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

[video=youtube;MyWldmhg00I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyWldmhg00I&feature=related

How can banimalek denies the allegations if there are evidence?

The situation in 4:89 is also about warfare, with the believers fighting against the oppressors. It's not a case of killing just because somebody is a non-believer.

4:75 And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper.

Ang believer dapat lumaban sa mga nang-aapi dahil kawawa ang mga naaapi. Pumatay kung kailangang pumatay. Hindi yung ibibigay yung pisngi o mambabato ng tinapay - kagaguhan yan.

[totben331]

If we read the Quran alone, there is no verse there that says apostates should be killed. Instead, disbelievers (obviously, apostates fall in that category) are left alone to enjoy, and it is up to God to punish them, never anybody else, if they are due for it. Yan ang essence ng freedom of religion ng mga democracia, hindi katulad sa ibang bansa na walang demokrasya na bawal magpractice ng relihiyon mo kung iba sa kanila.

15:3 Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know.

18:29 And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; evil the drink and ill the resting-place.

The situation in 4:89 is also about warfare, with the believers fighting against the oppressors. It's not a case of killing just because somebody is a non-believer.

4:75 And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper.

Ang believer dapat lumaban sa mga nang-aapi dahil kawawa ang mga naaapi. Pumatay kung kailangang pumatay. Hindi yung ibibigay yung pisngi o mambabato ng tinapay - kagaguhan yan.

nice one tonton.

yan ang di nila naiintindihan. basta nakakita sila ng word na "kill" hanggang doon lang sila. their argument is very limited to that word.

[talinomo]

If we read the Quran alone, there is no verse there that says apostates should be killed. Instead, disbelievers (obviously, apostates fall in that category) are left alone to enjoy, and it is up to God to punish them, never anybody else, if they are due for it. Yan ang essence ng freedom of religion ng mga democracia, hindi katulad sa ibang bansa na walang demokrasya na bawal magpractice ng relihiyon mo kung iba sa kanila.

15:3 Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know.

18:29 And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; evil the drink and ill the resting-place.

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

mangangatwiran ka pa? RENEGADE ay APOSTATE SLAY THEM ang sabi ng Quran

From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

The situation in 4:89 is also about warfare, with the believers fighting against the oppressors. It's not a case of killing just because somebody is a non-believer.

4:75 And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper.

Ang believer dapat lumaban sa mga nang-aapi dahil kawawa ang mga naaapi. Pumatay kung kailangang pumatay. Hindi yung ibibigay yung pisngi o mambabato ng tinapay - kagaguhan yan.

Paano yung sinabi ng lalaki sa Video?



Imam admits - The PENALTY for leaving ISLAM is DEATH



Bakit ayaw niyo umamin?

[totben331]

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

mangangatwiran ka pa? RENEGADE ay APOSTATE SLAY THEM ang sabi ng Quran

From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "







Paano yung sinabi ng lalaki sa Video?

[video=youtube;PvR-JHJB_oY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvR-JHJB_oY

Imam admits - The PENALTY for leaving ISLAM is DEATH

[video=youtube;mgo4aGe1OGc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgo4aGe1OGc&feature=related

Bakit ayaw niyo umamin?

kita mo na tonton.

sabi sayo eh...limitado lang sa word na "kill" ang pag-iisip nila. hindi na kaya ng utak nila ang medyo malawak na lohika

[banimalek]

Iyong nagmamagaling siya na akala mo ang galing-galing na kesyo iyon daw ang nakasaad sa arabic, basahin nga ninyo kung sino ba iyong mga nabanggit na ayon sa konteksto ay ang mga ipokritong siyang tinutukoy doon sa verse 89, subukan lang nilang intindihin ang nasa verse na ito at isaksak nila sa kokote nila.

Ito dagdagan natin itaas lang natin ng konti kung sino iyong nasa verse 89, ito ang verse 88..


4:88 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.




Sino daw iyong naging renegades ?

[talinomo]

kita mo na tonton.

sabi sayo eh...limitado lang sa word na "kill" ang pag-iisip nila. hindi na kaya ng utak nila ang medyo malawak na lohika

Ganyan din sasabihin ko sayo kapag nagquote ka ng bible lol. Ito gusto niyo diba, ito ang medisinang bagay sa inyo.

[talinomo]

Iyong nagmamagaling siya na akala mo ang galing-galing na kesyo iyon daw ang nakasaad sa arabic, basahin nga ninyo kung sino ba iyong mga nabanggit na ayon sa konteksto ay ang mga ipokritong siyang tinutukoy doon sa verse 89, subukan lang nilang intindihin ang nasa verse na ito at isaksak nila sa kokote nila.

Yun naman talaga nakalagay sa arabic translation. Hindi ako author niyan brad. Parang ikaw din nagmamagaling ka sa bible lol.

[totben331]

talino...FYI ang dictionary limitado lang sa words na nakasulat.

but LOGIC is very broad.

Example in English-Tagalog Dictionary.

Kapag word for word...kung saan ka sanay, ganito ang lalabas.

Tagalog : At walang ano-ano ay nagdatingan ang kung sino-sino.
English : And no what-what is arriving the if who-who.

Kita mo na ang LOGIC mo ?