Atheist Charities/Charitable institutions

[goat1230]

i don't understand the point of this thread at all..

[acer2009]

Okay. So you can't be an atheist while performing secular functions?

I know where this is going. Maybe you should look at how the poster equated secularism with atheism. Secularism has definitely nothing to do with atheism.

Atheism = non-belief in God.
Secularism = separating religious belief from the political and social sphere.

You can be Christian while doing secular functions while you cannot be Christian without believing in God.

I'd like to think that among other people, we must exercise prudence. Some can be pretty open of their atheism (though it is an important but small aspect of our identity) but realize that even though we expect the good among people, we may not be received warmly.

That doesn't change the fact that atheists are cowards. If you claim to have the truth, you wouldn't be afraid of that truth. The fact that atheists openly deride Christians in a favorable environment but keep mum when they are in Muslim countries about their arrogance speaks volumes about atheist convictions.

[acer2009]

i don't understand the point of this thread at all..

The point of this thread is to expose atheist hypocrisy. I thought you atheists were smart?

[ElCid]

Sa bait at talino niyong iyan wala man lang kayo sinusuportahan o sinalihan na atheist charity? So what's the name of the atheist charity you support?

[goat1230]

The point of this thread is to expose atheist hypocrisy. I thought you atheists were smart?

so those theists who chose not to join a charitable institution and helped the needy in their own little way aren't charitable?

so when a theist dedicated his/her life in helping others (such as the peace corps), but did not establish his/her own charity, he/she isn't charitable?

so when an atheist claims that he/she helped the needy in his/her own little way, he/she is not charitable? kailangan may institution para masabing charitable?



and one more thing, when an atheist established an institution in the name of his friend who died from a certain illness and that institution focuses on helping all those stricken with the said disease, will that be called an atheist institution or simply a charitable institution?

what makes of an atheistic institution in the first place?

[goat1230]

btw, I don't support an atheist charity (whatever that means), but I do help a friend with her outreach programs, in the name of whatever name she came up with

We'll have another this december, and will post it again on PeX.. but not on RoT of course

[ElCid]

^ Eh baket din niyo sabihin para makatulong naman yung mga iba pang atheist dito na pagkababait na tao di ba? :P

[goat1230]

^ Eh baket din niyo sabihin para makatulong naman yung mga iba pang atheist dito na pagkababait na tao di ba? :P

kelangan atheist lang ang yakagin ko? hindi pwede theist? hindi kami pwedeng mag set aside ng differences in faith (or lack of) para makatulong sa kapwa?

also, alam ko bina-ban ang mga nagpo post ng same topic sa iba't ibang threads dito sa PeX, kung hindi naman ay binubully ng mga PeX residents.. kaya dun lang kami sa isang lugar nagpo post.

also, we are not an institution. consider us a group of friends na trip lang namin tumulong, at nagi invite kami ng mga taong gusto ding tumulong.


sagutin mo naman ang tanong ko, what makes a charitable institution atheistic? if they are doing it in the name of FSM?

[ElCid]

kelangan atheist lang ang yakagin ko? hindi pwede theist? hindi kami pwedeng mag set aside ng differences in faith (or lack of) para makatulong sa kapwa?

Marami na kaming charity bro. Mahirap na lang magyabang. Saka ang punto ng sinabi ko baket di mo sabihin kung ano yung charity na sinasabi mo? Ano pangalan? Napakasimpleng tanong di mo sagutin?

also, alam ko bina-ban ang mga nagpo post ng same topic sa iba't ibang threads dito sa PeX, kung hindi naman ay binubully ng mga PeX residents.. kaya dun lang kami sa isang lugar nagpo post.

also, we are not an institution. consider us a group of friends na trip lang namin tumulong, at nagi invite kami ng mga taong gusto ding tumulong.

Eh di go ahead invite the people here. Ano ba ginagawa niyo sa grupo niyo? At least may 'atheist' charity

sagutin mo naman ang tanong ko, what makes a charitable institution atheistic? if they are doing it in the name of FSM?

FSM? Simple yung tanong ko di niyo masagot-sagot ng direcho? Pag ako tinanong niyo name catholic charities eto sagot simple:

http://dir.yahoo.com/society_and_cul...ons/charities/

Sample pa lang yan. Libo yan around the world. Kayo para kayong hinuhugutan ng bayawak sa wetpax kung tanungin pagkahirap hirap.

[stifbend]

I know where this is going. Maybe you should look at how the poster equated secularism with atheism. Secularism has definitely nothing to do with atheism.

Atheism = non-belief in God.
Secularism = separating religious belief from the political and social sphere.

You can be Christian while doing secular functions while you cannot be Christian without believing in God.

Nah, I'm pretty satisfied with the description you stuck with. I just find your choice of analogy lacking as to why secularism has nothing to do with atheism.

That doesn't change the fact that atheists are cowards. If you claim to have the truth, you wouldn't be afraid of that truth. The fact that atheists openly deride Christians in a favorable environment but keep mum when they are in Muslim countries about their arrogance speaks volumes about atheist convictions.

True, but irrelevant. It's one thing to express one's fandom of Justin Bieber, but it's another thing to express it in “Wehatejustinbieberistan”.

[acer2009]

True, but irrelevant. It's one thing to express one's fandom of Justin Bieber, but it's another thing to express it in “Wehatejustinbieberistan”.

It's good that you actually brought up this analogy because atheists have been doing the “Wehatejustinbieberistan” routine in a supposed God that actually doesn't exist in their minds ever since the New Atheist poster boy Dawkins showed up. Funny how irrational thinking works.

[stifbend]

It's good that you actually brought up this analogy because atheists have been doing the “Wehatejustinbieberistan” routine in a supposed God that actually doesn't exist in their minds since the New Atheist poster boy Dawkins showed up. Funny how irrational thinking works.

Just one of the many things I don't like about the movement.

[Milliardo]

The point of this thread is to expose atheist hypocrisy. I thought you atheists were smart?

Most atheists think they're smart when they're discussing with theists. In reality, as my prof in Accounting used to say, "Feeling lang yan."

[ElCid]

Most atheists think they're smart when they're discussing with theists. In reality, as my prof in Accounting used to say, "Feeling lang yan."

Honga eh lols. One atheist here believe that 'nothing' exists but have doubts that time and space doesn't? lolz

[acer2009]

Honga eh lols. One atheist here believe that 'nothing' exists but have doubts that time and space doesn't? lolz

Are you talking about Frank_Macky? Yeah, I had a feeling he was kind of an idiot. He's definitely proof that atheists should throw the words "critical and freethinking" to the trashbin, whatever the heck that means.

[ElCid]

Are you talking about Frank_Macky? Yeah, I had a feeling he was kind of an idiot. He's definitely proof that atheists should throw the words "critical and freethinking" to the trashbin, whatever the heck that means.

Just look at this thread. They've literally filled it with obfuscation when the question is very simple: give us the names of Atheist Charities/Charitable Institutions. We aren't talking about individual charity here or anonymous works of charity by groups of atheists. Heck anyone can make up stories like that especially in the net lolz.

[ElCid]

Ano ano uri nga palang charity yung ginagawa ng mga Atheist liban sa mamigay ng condom sa mga nagugutom? lolz

[kuroihikari]

Not arguing for either side, but atheists don't even have a decently-sized organization of their own, how much more a charitable one?

[Ferdinand]

Hindi naman kailangan na maging big organization para magtayo ng charitable institutions. They claim that more people are becoming atheist, ok...what about starting their own charitable institution for poorest of the poor, you know just to show that they are a force for the good of society?

[ElCid]

Not arguing for either side, but atheists don't even have a decently-sized organization of their own, how much more a charitable one?

Ganun? Eh they can organize for some other purpose na katarantaduhan lang eh oh baket sa charity hindi kaya na milyon din ang miembro para gumawa ng mabuti sa kapwa? Sa katarantaduhan kaya mag-organize - sa charity hindi?

The League of Militant Atheists[1] (also Union of Belligerent Atheists (Russian: Союз воинствующих безбожников); Society of the Godless (Общество безбожников); Union of the Godless (Союз безбожников)), was an antireligious organization of workers and others[who?] that developed in Soviet Russia under the influence of the ideological and cultural views and policies of the Communist Party in 1925–1947.[2] It "consisted of Party members, members of the Komsomol youth movement, workers and army veterans".[3]

The League embraced workers, peasants, students, and intelligentsia. It had its first affiliates at factories, plants, collective farms (kolkhoz), and educational institutions. By the beginning of 1941, it had about 3.5 million members of 100 nationalities. It had about 96,000 offices across the country. Guided by Bolshevik principles of antireligious propaganda and party's orders with regards to religion, the League aimed at exterminating religion in all its manifestations and forming an anti-religious scientific mindset among the workers. It propagated atheism and scientific achievements, conducted 'individual work' (a method of sending atheist tutors to meet with individual believers to convince them of atheism, which could be followed up with public harassment if they failed to comply) with religious people, prepared propagandists and atheistic campaigners, published anti-religious scientific literature and periodicals, organized museums and exhibitions, conducted scientific research in the field of atheism and critics of religion. The League's slogan was "Struggle against religion is a struggle for socialism", which was meant to tie in their atheist views with economy, politics, and culture. One of the slogans adopted at the 2nd congress was "Struggle against religion is a struggle for the five year plan!"[4] The League had international connections; it was part of the International of Proletarian Freethinkers and later of the Worldwide Freethinkers Union.

The League was a "nominally independent organization established by the Communist Party to promote atheism." It published newspapers, journals, and other materials that lampooned religion; it sponsored lectures and films; it organized demonstrations and parades; it set up antireligious museums; and it led a concerted effort telling Soviet citizens that religious beliefs and practices were "wrong" and "harmful", and that "good" citizens ought to embrace a scientific, atheistic worldview.[5]