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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Di mo nakikita ang punto: How do you prove kung walang ebidensiya ang claim? So haka haka na lang?
    Yup haka haka lang. Sa tingin ko naman walang pakialam ang isang ateo kung alam o hindi ng ibang tao na nakagawa sya ng mabuti.

    Di kasi tulad ng mga relihiyon na kailangan ipublicize na nagawa sila ng mabuti para patunayan na naging mabuti silang tao dahil sa relihiyon.

    E ang ateo di naman nila kini claim na naging mabuti silang tao dahil sa pagiging ateo. Di naman base ang moralidad nila sa pagiging ateo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ender_1111 View Post
    Yup haka haka lang. Sa tingin ko naman walang pakialam ang isang ateo kung alam o hindi ng ibang tao na nakagawa sya ng mabuti.

    Di kasi tulad ng mga relihiyon na kailangan ipublicize na nagawa sila ng mabuti para patunayan na naging mabuti silang tao dahil sa relihiyon.

    E ang ateo di naman nila kini claim na naging mabuti silang tao dahil sa pagiging ateo. Di naman base ang moralidad nila sa pagiging ateo.
    Kung may organization mahahanap yan bro hindi naman publicity ang issue dito. Information age na ngayon kahit wala kang website nakarehistro ka somewhere which we could easily verify. So kung aminado kang haka-haka lang wala talagang batayan yung sinasabi ng mga Ateo na sila gumagawa ng mabuti tulad ng ginagawa ng mga naniniwala sa Dios. Kami we have proof - sila haka haka lang meron. Kahit di mo nga igoogle - alam ng tao may orphanages kami, may schools for the underprivileged, may mga hospitals for the indigent and other different kinds of charities - hindi for publicity because that is what we do since that is part of what we believe.

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    Yan ang maganda sa mga secular organizations, charity ang priority, hindi yung issue at promotion ng belief/unbelief. Kung gagawa ang isang atheist ng charity malamang secular talaga unless dominantly atheist issues ang itatackle nito. Hindi naman atheist or agnostic charity yung Bill Gates Foundation diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustaine View Post
    Yan ang maganda sa mga secular organizations, charity ang priority, hindi yung issue at promotion ng belief/unbelief. Kung gagawa ang isang atheist ng charity malamang secular talaga unless dominantly atheist issues ang itatackle nito. Hindi naman atheist or agnostic charity yung Bill Gates Foundation diba?
    Hindi nga secular organization ang usapin dito dahil pag secular hindi automatic atheist. At hindi din agnostic - ATHEIST CHARITIES AND CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS ang usapin dito kaya huag mo iligaw.

    Kung wala wala. Ganun lang kasimple. Puro patutsada pa wala din naman lols.

  5. #25
    {1611 KJV Matthew 6:2} Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    Perhaps Atheists prefer working in the background and just don't like "blowing their own torotots" at all.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Hindi nga secular organization ang usapin dito dahil pag secular hindi automatic atheist. At hindi din agnostic - ATHEIST CHARITIES AND CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS ang usapin dito kaya huag mo iligaw.

    Kung wala wala. Ganun lang kasimple. Puro patutsada pa wala din naman lols.
    Obviously merong purely atheist charities, igoogle mo lang, pointless lang gumawa ng atheist charity unless atheism ang focus at mas ok pa kung secular. The same way na pipiliin ng mga matitinong atheists na magkaroon ng secular na society kumpara sa isang atheist na society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporegime View Post
    {1611 KJV Matthew 6:2} Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    Perhaps Atheists prefer working in the background and just don't like "blowing their own torotots" at all.
    The key word here is PERHAPS. No different from Farinas during the trial of CJ corona when he said that corona's arguments were just 'palusot'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    The key word here is PERHAPS. No different from Farinas during the trial of CJ corona when he said that corona's arguments were just 'palusot'.
    It's none of anybody's business to verify, not yours even:

    {1611 KJV Matthew 6:1} Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporegime View Post
    It's none of anybody's business to verify, not yours even:

    {1611 KJV Matthew 6:1} Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
    True since it is difficult to verify which is meager or non-existent :P.

    So sa issue ng charity biblical kayo in the sense na hindi niyo kailangan ipakita - o wala kayong ipapakita talaga? Gagamitan pa ko ng bible ng atheist? lols

    So mabalik tayo sa topic: Wala ba kayo talagang ilalabas na charities/charitable INSTITUTION na atheist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporegime View Post
    {1611 KJV Matthew 6:2} Therefore when thou doest [thine] alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    Perhaps Atheists prefer working in the background and just don't like "blowing their own torotots" at all.
    Matthew 5:16

    American Standard Version (ASV)

    16 Even so let your light shine before men; that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

    Contradiction!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    True since it is difficult to verify which is meager or non-existent :P.

    So sa issue ng charity biblical kayo in the sense na hindi niyo kailangan ipakita - o wala kayong ipapakita talaga? Gagamitan pa ko ng bible ng atheist? lols

    So mabalik tayo sa topic: Wala ba kayo talagang ilalabas na charities/charitable INSTITUTION na atheist?
    Pantheist ako jorj. I believe in 'everything' including Jesus Christ. So, ang ibig sabihin kung di niyo kapanalig bale wala na sa inyo ang turo sa Bible regarding alms and "blowing one's own trumpet"? Eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Matthew 5:16

    American Standard Version (ASV)

    16 Even so let your light shine before men; that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

    Contradiction!!
    I suppose this only applies to works of art and the like, or anything you could make money off from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustaine View Post
    I was being sarcastic.
    there goes being smarter


    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Di naman sa ganoon. Hindi lang ganoon ka-organized at hindi lang nararamdaman ng lipunan at di tulad ng gusto nilang palabasin. Walang kwenta in other words kung meron man. Dahil di mo naman din masisisi - wala sa credo nila na tumulong sa kapwa. Wala naman silang credo to begin with lols. Except walang Dios.
    Quote Originally Posted by ender_1111 View Post
    ^^^
    Bakit kailangan iverify? Di na siguro kailangan yun, di naman sila nghahabol ng recognition o publicity.
    Sobrang smart kasi nyan si elcid, akala nya sa atheism eh religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Di mo nakikita ang punto: How do you prove kung walang ebidensiya ang claim? So haka haka na lang?
    To prove bigots wrong? Paki ng atheist sa tulad mo.

    Theist dont have the monopoly of being good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporegime View Post
    I suppose this only applies to works of art and the like, or anything you could make money off from.
    Hahaha! Good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caporegime View Post
    Pantheist ako jorj. I believe in 'everything' including Jesus Christ. So, ang ibig sabihin kung di niyo kapanalig bale wala na sa inyo ang turo sa Bible regarding alms and "blowing one's own trumpet"? Eh?
    Jorj kung nakakaintindi ka ng ingles yung quote mo hindi para sa mga pantyist lols - para sa mga cristiano so huag mo iapply sa iyo dahil ang kasunod na utos doon kung pano magdasal - nagdadasal ka ba sa Dios Ama? Kaya tigilan na palusot jorg dahil di uubra. Saka ang usapin INSTITUTION hindi individual charity. Nakakaintindi ka ba jorg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus_hunt View Post
    To prove bigots wrong? Paki ng atheist sa tulad mo.

    Theist dont have the monopoly of being good.
    Nax nag-speech na naman na pagkagagaling naman din daw nila wohohoho. Ano kamo atheist institution dito na charitable? Neverheard eh lols. Yeah right lols.

    Pag inatake nila christian - hindi sila bigot - ang bigot yung umaatake sa atheist wahahaha.

    Sorry pare kung nasasaktan ko damdamin mo. Hindi yun ang layunin ko bro. Sana maintindihan mo. Di ko kase alam na maramdamin ka sorry ha? Pasencia na talaga. Akala ko kase astig ka eh - mamon ka pala. Di kaya naktikwas din hinliliit mo tulad ni Ateo? Lols

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    ... Di kaya naktikwas din hinliliit mo tulad ni Ateo? Lols
    Di natitikwas ang hinliliit ko ElCid. Kaya kung makipagsabayan sa iyo. You are brandishing a wrong characterization. Baka si Kristo ang tunutukoy mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustaine View Post
    Yan ang maganda sa mga secular organizations, charity ang priority, hindi yung issue at promotion ng belief/unbelief. Kung gagawa ang isang atheist ng charity malamang secular talaga unless dominantly atheist issues ang itatackle nito. Hindi naman atheist or agnostic charity yung Bill Gates Foundation diba?
    Actually the Gates are atheists. Their foundation must be the largest single dinor on RH/condom program in the world.

    See this upcoming conference: http://www.who.int/pmnch/media/news/.../en/index.html

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    Nax nag-speech na naman na pagkagagaling naman din daw nila wohohoho. Ano kamo atheist institution dito na charitable? Neverheard eh lols. Yeah right lols.

    Pag inatake nila christian - hindi sila bigot - ang bigot yung umaatake sa atheist wahahaha.

    Sorry pare kung nasasaktan ko damdamin mo. Hindi yun ang layunin ko bro. Sana maintindihan mo. Di ko kase alam na maramdamin ka sorry ha? Pasencia na talaga. Akala ko kase astig ka eh - mamon ka pala. Di kaya naktikwas din hinliliit mo tulad ni Ateo? Lols
    do you even know the meaning of the word?

    you have no opinions, you claim them as facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus_hunt View Post
    do you even know the meaning of the word?

    you have no opinions, you claim them as facts.
    You stick to the topic and don't call people names. Dahil napaghahalata talo ka na eh - pikon talo lols. Ano nga pala ulet name noong atheist org na sinasabi mo maigoogle natin - neverheard eh. :P

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