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    CHRISTIANS ONLY!!! First cousin relation,Shameful or not shameful?

    For me it is very shameful and evil to have relation with close relative, but not the first cousin and so on.....
    Close relatives is a symbol of holy LOVE and RESPECT, because we who are spiritual knows what is shameful....

    There should have a high respect and holiness within close relatives, sisters and brothers..., but the cousins relation is free from law.Not mention in the Bible that it is a forbidden relationship, but ALLOWED...

    Leviticus 18

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    Unlawful Sexual Relations

    18 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘I am the Lord your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. 4 You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. 5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the person who obeys them will live by them. I am the Lord.

    6 “‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.

    7 “‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

    8 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.

    9 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

    10 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.

    11 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

    12 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.

    13 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.

    14 “‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

    15 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.

    16 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.

    17 “‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

    18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

    19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

    20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her.

    21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

    22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

    23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

    24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

    29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the Lord your God. ’”

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    Let's stop and talk awhile. tonton's Avatar
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    So puwede ang 1st cousin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfearingman View Post
    For me it is very shameful and evil to have relation with close relative, but not the first cousin and so on.....
    Hindi ba close relative ang first cousin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    So puwede ang 1st cousin?
    Puwede naman yata kasi wala naman sinabi sa inilatag ng thread starter na uncle son/daughter or aunt son/daughter

    Si Abraham at Sarah, hindi ba magkapatid sa ama>>>

    Genesis 20:12 At saka talagang siya'y kapatid ko, na anak ng aking ama, datapuwa't hindi anak ng aking ina; at siya'y naging asawa ko:

    Genesis 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

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    the only instruction given to us is to only marry 1 person. widows/widowers can marry again.

    so whether it is allowed to marry or not to marry your first cousin, is already depending on the law of the land AND the cultural setting

    so if one country allows marriage of cousins, with no cultural taboo, then it's ok.

    so long as there is peace in the couple, and that the couple will strengthen each other to serve the Lord better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartDessa View Post
    the only instruction given to us is to only marry 1 person. widows/widowers can marry again.

    so whether it is allowed to marry or not to marry your first cousin, is already depending on the law of the land AND the cultural setting

    so if one country allows marriage of cousins, with no cultural taboo, then it's ok.

    so long as there is peace in the couple, and that the couple will strengthen each other to serve the Lord better.
    where is the instruction in the Bible to marry only one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by totben331 View Post
    where is the instruction in the Bible to marry only one?
    Wala. None. Zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Wala. None. Zero.
    sabi kasi ni dessa, yun daw ang the only instruction, yung marry only one.

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    Matthew 19:5

    And said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and his mother and shall be joined to his wife; and the two shall be one flesh''?


    if there is 1 man and 2 woman, hindi na "two" shall be one flesh, "three" na
    neither can a man have 2 flesh (each for both wives), kasi nga, one "flesh" e

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    Kay Manong Pablo lang galing ang marry only one

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    maski sa Genesis pa lang, pinakita na na si Eba ay sapat na para kay Adan.


    tingnan mo si Abraham, nagkaron ng mistress, ayon, nagkaroon tuloy ng Ishmael.

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    Hindi uso sa muslim ang salitang "pakikiapid" kasi mismong propeta nila manyak at pedophile! LOLZ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    Hindi uso sa muslim ang salitang "pakikiapid" kasi mismong propeta nila manyak at pedophile! LOLZ...
    wala bang bago argumento.....

    pero in fairness kay Ti El Gi puwedeng magparaos na lang sa bayarang babae o gawin kabit na lang


    basta sa misis niya only one

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    o balik na sa paksa at baka mauwi na sa baling paksa ni TI EL GI..


    First cousin relation,Shameful or not shameful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    wala bang bago argumento.....

    pero in fairness kay Ti El Gi puwedeng magparaos na lang sa bayarang babae o gawin kabit na lang

    basta sa misis niya only one
    Pwede mong gawin yan kung gusto mo pero kasalanan yan, eh sa inyo walang kasalanan ang pakiki-apid kasi nga hindi uso sa inyo yun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    Pwede mong gawin yan kung gusto mo pero kasalanan yan, eh sa inyo walang kasalanan ang pakiki-apid kasi nga hindi uso sa inyo yun!
    sino maysabi na pakikiaapid iyon, pinapakasalan po sa amin at hindi katulad mo na kabit-kabit lang

    balik na tayo sa paksa kasi binababoy mo naman ito

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    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    o balik na sa paksa at baka mauwi na sa baling paksa ni TI EL GI..


    First cousin relation,Shameful or not shameful?
    Ok on topic, depende sa kultura yan kung ikokonsider nilang shameful or not ang first cousins, pero may mga genetic mutations na mangyayari sa mga magiging anak nyo kung saka-sakali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    sino maysabi na pakikiaapid iyon, pinapakasalan po sa amin at hindi katulad mo na kabit-kabit lang
    Ano ba definition mo ng salitang pakiki-apid? Wala na naman sa dictionary sigurado!



    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    balik na tayo sa paksa kasi binababoy mo naman ito
    Pag post ko baboy, pag post mo hindi. ayus ah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    Ano ba definition mo ng salitang pakiki-apid? Wala na naman sa dictionary sigurado!
    saan mo naman nakuha ang definition na kapag pinakasalan mo ang babae ay nakiki-apid ka


    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    Pag post ko baboy, pag post mo hindi. ayus ah!
    Oo naman ikaw ang unang nagpost ng paglilihis ng paksa, so ikaw ang nambababoy.

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