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  1. #1

    Anu ba pinakamagandang gawin sa mga taong hindi nagbabayad ng utang?

    Hingi lang ako ng advise for cases or situations like these.

    Ayoko na paabutin sa legal actions kasi I wanted to give this person a chance.

    ITo ang situation:
    She was my officemate dati sa DELL QC, originally from a Canadian account.
    Humiram sya sa akin ng MALAKING pera dahil sa frustration na hindi mapromote promote (dahil rin sa ugali nyang napakapangit) eh nag fly away sya sa foreign land (Singapore) at naghanap ng work dun.

    Umuwi sya dito rin ng walang nangyari sa kanya dun at hindi sya nakakuha ng trabaho kaya good luck naman sa utang nyang napakalaki sa akin, di na sya nagpakita para mag bayad.

    Hay buhay. eniweiz,
    tulungan nyo naman ako.. anu ba gagawin ko???

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    since ayaw mo ng legal action, 2 lang ang options mo which are:

    1) singilin mo nang singilin to the best of your ability;

    2) ipag-pray mo siya.

    in my case, the 2nd option is more effective. finally, nagbayad yung nakautang sa akin - not in the terms that i wanted, but at least nagbayad siya.

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    Tama. Singilin mo siya at sabihin mo na hindi biro yung laki ng inutang niya. Add drama na kailangang kailangan mo yung money (mag-isip ka na lang ng reason na totoo or close to the truth) para makonsensya siya.

    I agree with gene69 na ipagpray mo siya kasi baka nga naman talaga wala siyang pambayad or gipit siya talaga. Good luck!

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    kung hindi pa rin makuha sa dasal sabihin mo 2nd cousin mo si Claudine Baretto ewan ko lang

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    Aside from praying for her. Need mo na singilin siya. Sabihin mo kailangan mo din ng pera.

    If ayaw pa rin, kailangan mo na ng lawyer, just send me a pm may i re refer ako sayo.

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    Leccion ito sa lahat na HUWAG MAGPAPAUTANG dahil mahirap maningil lalo na't unsecured loan.

    --sent from my HTC Cha Cha

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    How important is it for you to get your money back?

    If not, chalk this up to experience.

    If you really need the money, talk to her and explain in a polite but firm way that you need the cash and ask when can she pay you back. Negotiate the payment terms, say, patingi tingi na bayad, if you're fine with that. You also need to see if she's in a position to pay. And tell her that if she can't pay you, you have no option but to pursue legal action (but only if you're willing to go down this route).

    If that doesn't work and you're ready to take her to court:

    Get yourself a decent, competent lawyer. No need to sue at this point, but the lawyer can draft a letter to your friend, state the terms of re-payment (for ex., P500 every month or whatever is reasonable). You should ask the lawyer, too, what options you have at this point. In the States anyone who owes anybody money is forced by the courts to garnish their wages. Automatic na dine-deduct yung salary ng may utang each month until fully paid yung obligation. I don't know if we have such a system here so you should ask.

    Your lawyer should send this letter on your behalf. The letter should also state the consequences, i.e. if friend doesn't respond by X date, lawyer will begin legal proceedings against her.

    You should also be prepared for the possibility that you will never hear from your friend again. But hopefully this will dissuade her from doing the same thing to someone else.

    I feel for you because this happened to me before. I never got my money back (ouch). So advice lang, next time na magpapautang ka, you should put down the terms in writing, both parties should sign, and make it clear na may consequences if the agreement is broken. If friend doesn't sign, that's a red flag.

    Or, magpautang ka ng amount na kaya mo pakawalan. Or, hwag ka na magpautang. Lalo na sa kaibigan at kamag-anak. Yan ang utang na pinakamahirap singilin.

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    ^^Sayang lang ang pera at pagod mo sa legal action. Abogado lang ang kikita riyan. Magfile lang ng BANKRUPTCY iyong may utang sa iyo, TAPOS NA ANG BOXING.

    --sent from my HTC Cha Cha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catkin View Post
    Get yourself a decent, competent lawyer...
    how does a DECENT lawyer look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gene69 View Post
    how does a DECENT lawyer look like?
    A decent lawyer DOES NOT wear sleeveless shirt or miniskirt (if a woman) or jersey shirt and shorts (if a man) because according to a Valenzuela Church this attire is INDECENT....

    --sent from my HTC Cha Cha

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    Quote Originally Posted by djaynitor View Post
    A decent lawyer DOES NOT wear sleeveless shirt or miniskirt (if a woman) or jersey shirt and shorts (if a man) because according to a Valenzuela Church this attire is INDECENT....

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    so a decent lawyer gives good advice? and his fees area also decent?

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    IPAHIYA na lang sa FB or kung anong medium na madami nakakakilala sa kanya. Mga ganyang tao kasi eh makakapal na ang mga mukha at kailangan ng gumawa ng malalang paraan para tumagos naman sa mga pisngi nila.

    Currently experiencing one at the moment.

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    Tanungin mo yung mga nagpapa-five-six kung ano ang style nila sa paniningil. Ako kasi wala akong maipapayo sa iyo dahil kapag ako nagpautang, umpisa pa lang iniisip ko na na hindi na ako mababayaran. That way, maise-set ko kung magkano lang ang halagang hindi ko panghihinayangang mawala sa akin na pwede ko ipautang sa kanya, and then maihahanda ko na ang sarili ko kapag hindi siya nagbayad. then pababayaan ko na lang siya magbayad kung may pera na siya, at habang hindi siya nakakabayad, hindi na siya makakaulit sa akin. In short, I won't expect anything kapag nagpautang ako, pero it's gonna be his loss kapag hindi na siya nagbayad dahil napresyohan na nya ang pagtitiwala ko sa kanya, at never na siya makaka-expect ng tulong pinansyal galing sa akin.

    Pero sa mga taong malaki ang tiwala ko, swerte nila dahil generous ako sa kanila.

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    I'd like to tell an example: I have a cousin who owed me P1,500 some 15 years ago. Hanggang ngayon hindi pa nya nababayaran. Recently, nangailangan siya ng P30K pang-tuition ng anak nya. Ipinadaan pa niya sa brother niya ang pangungutang sa akin, pero sorry talaga sya, I'd have to stick to my principles. Sa ibang bagay na lang siya humngi ng tulong sa akin, wag na pera.

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    Ultimately, ang principle ko ay ganito:

    Ang utang ay utang. Ang kasalanan, mapapatawad ko na pagsisisi nya lang ang kapalit, pero ang utang hindi dahil may kasamang responsibilidad yan para maibalik yung bagay na inutang, bago ko siya mapatawad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyCool_Dude View Post
    I'd like to tell an example: I have a cousin who owed me P1,500 some 15 years ago. Hanggang ngayon hindi pa nya nababayaran. Recently, nangailangan siya ng P30K pang-tuition ng anak nya. Ipinadaan pa niya sa brother niya ang pangungutang sa akin, pero sorry talaga sya, I'd have to stick to my principles. Sa ibang bagay na lang siya humngi ng tulong sa akin, wag na pera.
    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyCool_Dude View Post
    Ultimately, ang principle ko ay ganito:

    Ang utang ay utang. Ang kasalanan, mapapatawad ko na pagsisisi nya lang ang kapalit, pero ang utang hindi dahil may kasamang responsibilidad yan para maibalik yung bagay na inutang, bago ko siya mapatawad.
    Yun nga eh. Usually yung mga hindi nagbayad ng utang eh halos hindi na din makakaulit pa. Kumbaga broken na yung tiwala. Madami kasi umaabuso eh. Tsk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JobyBryant24 View Post
    IPAHIYA na lang sa FB or kung anong medium na madami nakakakilala sa kanya. Mga ganyang tao kasi eh makakapal na ang mga mukha at kailangan ng gumawa ng malalang paraan para tumagos naman sa mga pisngi nila.

    Currently experiencing one at the moment.
    ramdam ko yung pait ng post mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by corn queen View Post
    ramdam ko yung pait ng post mo
    Hahahaha. Mas nakakabanas pa kasi eh akala mo kaibigan eh di pala. Takte meron palang mga ganun. Yung mga walang hiya na talaga. Tsk.

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    Get a debt collector (better to get something than nothing) or find some goons to get the "job" done. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JobyBryant24 View Post
    Hahahaha. Mas nakakabanas pa kasi eh akala mo kaibigan eh di pala. Takte meron palang mga ganun. Yung mga walang hiya na talaga. Tsk.
    yup, may mga ganun talaga
    hindi sila (insert TS' name here )

    Quote Originally Posted by jtansanco View Post
    Get a debt collector (better to get something than nothing) or find some goons to get the "job" done. =)
    san po ba ako hahanap noong "goons"?

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