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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by BossVic View Post
    Pano naman sa Muslim?
    Mabait sa mga mahihirap o poor ang Islamic Jihadis... binibigyan ng food ang mga voters para iboto ang mga pro-Shari'a...

    link: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/mu...with-food.html

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Idol mo ko noh? Gaya gaya!
    I just agree to what you have said

    it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollMontero View Post
    catholics......
    others..? hello.. ok.. bye

    say you're that man what would you do on your last years of quirkiness? o ayaw mo sa verse na yan?

  5. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Felix_Ecleo View Post
    dapat kasi nilagyan mo ng credits, copyright infringement yun..
    ok, kung dinedemand e walang problema.

  6. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    It is what it is.

    Christians will make all kinds of explanations so they won't part with their worldly possessions. Oh, it shouldn't be taken literally my a$$.
    Quote Originally Posted by greenapple6000 View Post
    The rich man followed the ten commandments faithfully. But, Jesus tested his heart whether he is going to sacrifice everything for the gospel which includes persecution and hardship along the way. Jesus was commanding him to leave everything for the sake of the gospel just as the discipiles had done. However, he loved his wealth more than God. He didn't put God above everything. He loved his wealth first.

    God saw men as being materilistic and always loving wealth, prestige, money, the world, etc. That's why it's impossible for a man who loved wealth and worldly pursuits, to put everything behind and preach the gospel. His desires for worldy things are more important to him than God. The gospel is something of a nuisance to them and have no time for such nonsense.

    "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. (Matthew 6:24 NIV)

    A Christian has to fully dedicate his/her life to the gospel as a top priority in life. Otherwise, you will take part in the fulfilment of this parable:

    "His master replied, 'You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest. "'So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' (Matthew 25:26-30 NIV)

    Just as there is punishment for not doing your mandate as a Christian, there is a great reward for those who took the risk:

    "Truly I tell you," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—along with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first." (Mark 10:29-31 NIV)

    Just how many Christians today have already done this? You don't have to do it old school style. There's the internet to spread the gospel. No excuses.

    Jesus is the Master and Christians are the servants. If you were the Master and gave the tools to a servant to use, like the vacuum cleaner, the washing machine, detergents, soap, etc. to clean the house and what the servant did was to watch t.v. and talk on the phone to gossip, and when the Master came back and he sees the house in a mess and dirty, wouldn't he get so angry with the lazy servant?
    You did exactly what I said.

    How do you know Jesus was testing him? You read his mind? Binobola lang nya yung tao at hindi niya talaga pinapabenta ang mga ari-arian niya?

  7. #26
    actually, ang dali kayang magbenta ng ari-arian.

    ako, mga ginagamit ko di ko considered na sakin, lahat yan kay Lord, so in turn, wala akong possession, wala akong kelangan ibenta

    yun nga lang, minsan di ako nakakasunod sa Kanya, kailangan natin ang Kanyang tulong para tayo'y makasunod

  8. #27
    Focus, guys. It is not about greed, about being materialistic, or about sacrifice. What we are shocked about is Jesus' use of the word "ALL". Did he mean all when he said "all" or was he just joking again? This dude is losing credibility. He said one thing, and his followers interpret the opposite. Did he say "all" to mean "not quite all"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    It is what it is.

    Christians will make all kinds of explanations so they won't part with their worldly possessions. Oh, it shouldn't be taken literally my a$$.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartDessa View Post
    actually, ang dali kayang magbenta ng ari-arian.

    ako, mga ginagamit ko di ko considered na sakin, lahat yan kay Lord, so in turn, wala akong possession, wala akong kelangan ibenta

    yun nga lang, minsan di ako nakakasunod sa Kanya, kailangan natin ang Kanyang tulong para tayo'y makasunod
    Nakupo ang tindi mo magpalusot!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Focus, guys. It is not about greed, about being materialistic, or about sacrifice. What we are shocked about is Jesus' use of the word "ALL". Did he mean all when he said "all" or was he just joking again? This dude is losing credibility. He said one thing, and his followers interpret the opposite. Did he say "all" to mean "not quite all"?
    He's joking for sure.

  11. #30
    Dessa, Jesus said, "... and give the proceeds to the poor." Paano ka maka-comply nyan e kung ikaw pa rin ang gumagamit ng gamit mo kahit na feeling mo ay kay Lord ang lahat na gamit mo?

  12. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by greenapple6000 View Post
    The rich man followed the ten commandments faithfully. But, Jesus tested his heart whether he is going to sacrifice everything for the gospel which includes persecution and hardship along the way. Jesus was commanding him to leave everything for the sake of the gospel just as the discipiles had done. However, he loved his wealth more than God. He didn't put God above everything. He loved his wealth first.

    God saw men as being materilistic and always loving wealth, prestige, money, the world, etc. That's why it's impossible for a man who loved wealth and worldly pursuits, to put everything behind and preach the gospel. His desires for worldy things are more important to him than God. The gospel is something of a nuisance to them and have no time for such nonsense.

    "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. (Matthew 6:24 NIV)

    A Christian has to fully dedicate his/her life to the gospel as a top priority in life. Otherwise, you will take part in the fulfilment of this parable:

    "His master replied, 'You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed? Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest. "'So take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has ten bags. For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' (Matthew 25:26-30 NIV)

    Just as there is punishment for not doing your mandate as a Christian, there is a great reward for those who took the risk:

    "Truly I tell you," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—along with persecutions—and in the age to come eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first." (Mark 10:29-31 NIV)

    Just how many Christians today have already done this? You don't have to do it old school style. There's the internet to spread the gospel. No excuses.

    Jesus is the Master and Christians are the servants. If you were the Master and gave the tools to a servant to use, like the vacuum cleaner, the washing machine, detergents, soap, etc. to clean the house and what the servant did was to watch t.v. and talk on the phone to gossip, and when the Master came back and he sees the house in a mess and dirty, wouldn't he get so angry with the lazy servant?

    Don't forget to mention the Yeast of the Pharisee.

    Christianity came from one individual. This made it a lot easy for people to follow yet too many opinions changed what Christ meant. The diversity of opinions has demolished the unity that Christ promises because the mission of Jesus is to bring the Holy Spirit into our hearts instead. It shall be the Holy Spirit that would lead men to the Truth.

    In reality, Jesus never intended for his work to be preached like what the Scribes and Pharisees of his time did with the Law. Jesus asked his apostles to make "disciples" of all men. He gave us a recipe which the spiritual calls "The Way", yet how come there are too many directions from too many conflicting opinions of modern day Pharisees? The answer is these people are not following Christ.

    The Way of the Lord is to lead men to the Father. Since there is only one God, then all men would be One as the Father and the Son are One. For the same reason, the Gospels would have to be preached in all its fullness (no longer by passages) before the end comes.

  13. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Focus, guys. It is not about greed, about being materialistic, or about sacrifice. What we are shocked about is Jesus' use of the word "ALL". Did he mean all when he said "all" or was he just joking again? This dude is losing credibility. He said one thing, and his followers interpret the opposite. Did he say "all" to mean "not quite all"?
    Whoa! Please do not publicly emphasize your complete ignorance of the gospels. Essentially, the gospels are about CAPITALISM and Jesus emphasizes this idea many times in the parables of the talents, gold coins, etc. Giving up everything to buy that field is a form of holocaust, a sacrificial offering that God expects from us.


    Abraham offered Isaac. He was ready to kill him as a response to God's Will. Isaac was his son, given in their old age. An only son in those days meant filial heritage, security and welfare. This is what is meant by giving up everything for Abraham. Jesus too showed us how it is done, pick up your cross and follow him. That is the story of the passion of Christ: He willingly gave up his life for the ransom of many.

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