2012 PBA Mock Draft 2.0

[nuance]

Swerte naman ng BGK, PBB ang mawawalan ng pick tapos sila ang kukuha.

Ang dami niyo ng nakuha mula kay Allein, Ababou, Miedhoffer at Raymundo. Tama na ang Air21 pick, wag na galawin ang PBB pick.

Kaya nga sinabi ko malabo mangyari.

[Shoshin]

Hindi siguro tama yung term na "palugi"

I believe PBB should get in a two for one trade or a trade for a future draft pick.

Two for one could be a Scorer and a Young player for a Good Veteran Role player. Hindi palugi na trade yun but you are giving up a good assets to get one that will compliment the core. It is a win win trade.

Trading for a pick could also be made if there is a log jam and you want to create playing time. Hindi rin yun palugi since you are securing the future.

Sometimes we see trades that are unbalanced because one team gets an established superstar and the other gets young but unproven players and/or role players. We have to remember that the commissioner's office will not approve of any unbalance trade favoring one or the other because that same trade can be used by other teams as reason to go into other unbalanced trade. "Bakit si Team A pinayagan ma trade si ano sa Team B. Kami hindi." Although no trade value can be equal, it should be at least comparable. Kudos to The commissioner for making it tighter nowadays

[WaveMaster]

I think a lot of movement will happen come draft day.

... dpat mgpadraft c fajardo. Abueva is a good player I just dont see him being drafted ahead from the likes of a mallari/ellis/ramos.. you know how pba teams look at players now a days.

1. Petron (From Air21) - Fajardo

2. Alaska Milk - Hodge (Could be traded. Might stick with the pick if they wont get anything good in exchange.)

3. Petron (From Barako) - Ellis (Loaded, could trade some of its players)

4. Meralco - Jensen / Mallari / Abueva

5. Barako (From Petron) - Ramos / Mallari / Abueva

6. Ginebra (From Powerade) - Jensen / Ramos / Mallari / Abueva

7. Rain or Shine - Manuel / Abueva

8. Barangay Ginebra - Buensuceso

9. B-Meg - Marcelo / Nabong

10. Powerade (From TNT) - Marcelo / Nabong

[Loofee]

Kelangan minsan ng isang team na magpalugi sa trade to make their team a balanced team...look at bmeg, alam naten na lugi sila on paper sa 2 trade na naganap with ginebra but they got the role players they wanted which benefited them...

You cant win with a team loaded with superstars...you need role players...

Do you still think...lugi ang ang BMEG sa Maierhofer and Raymundo trade? Well I guess you're underestimating Tim Cone. On paper, you could term those trades as unfair but the way things have gone, BMEG has the upperhand. Cone got players whom he coveted for a long time - YDO and Intal and traded seldom-used Maierhofer and a disgruntled Raymundo in exchange. Parang hindi ko naramdaman na nawalan ang BMEG kasi madalang din naman palaruin si Maierhofer. Raymundo, on the other hand is more of a liability than an asset since he disrupts the fluid movement of the ball by asking for more touches and sometimes forcing the issue.

The picture becomes clearer that these trades are balanced with BMEG set to own 2 high picks in the 2nd round of the 2012 draft (acquired from these trades). BMEG owns the 12th and 13th picks enough to draft a Lester Alvarez and another bigman to beef up their frontline.

[Big Ticket]

^in paper nga sabi ko di ba? And that they got the role players they wanted...kindly read my post again...

[Loofee]

kung magpa-draft si tiu, san kaya sya mapupunta? which team needs him? will ginebra draft him with either of their 2 first round picks? or will RG get him because of his looks? hehe

INTERVIEW WITH CHRIS TIU:
“I think if I don’t join this year, that’s it, no more basketball,” said Tiu on Wednesday night, adding that he will make the decision on Wednesday next week whether to join the draft or become a businessman full time. The deadline for application for the draft is on August 3, two days after Tiu’s D-day.

Parang nang-oogag lang. WTF! hindi pa derechuhin kung magpapadraft ba sya o hindi. Ang daming kaartehan sa katawan. Ano sya, Lebron James na may sariling presson entitled "The Decision"? Di pa nga nakakapasok sa PBA, may prima donna attitude na. Crap!

[Shoshin]

Parang nang-oogag lang. WTF! hindi pa derechuhin kung magpapadraft ba sya o hindi. Ang daming kaartehan sa katawan. Ano sya, Lebron James na may sariling presson entitled "The Decision"? Di pa nga nakakapasok sa PBA, may prima donna attitude na. Crap!

Magaling sana. I though he can become the next Olsen Racela because of his basketball IQ.

[LakersAcesFan]

JUNEMAR FAJARDO:
Nakapag pasa na ko
application for the
2012 DRAFT. Gusto ko
nang maglaro sa PBA.
Kahit naman sino kumuha sa akin.

[WaveMaster]

if mgppdraft to si eskinol boy panigurado mddraft yan.
Matunog ang pangalan eh....
He'll get drafted not by his talent but by connections. There's alot more talent out there kesa sa kanya.

I cant get over the fact na he represented our country last fiba over the likes of MC-47, Baguio, Mercado, etc.

kng mgttayo ng bbol team ang GMA panigurado captain toh.

[gerald23]

Kelangan minsan ng isang team na magpalugi sa trade to make their team a balanced team...look at bmeg, alam naten na lugi sila on paper sa 2 trade na naganap with ginebra but they got the role players they wanted which benefited them...

You cant win with a team loaded with superstars...you need role players...

Brader Big Ticket, you're right coming from the script of the Transformer the movie and philosophy in business "No Sacrifice No Victory" it's part of every success stories, you need to let go of something you know from the very start it's a gamble to make in order to gain more of something that your team needs for future success.

BMEG needs to acquired players in order for them to be more versatile, sounds lopsided trade for Ginebra nope in order to gain you must give something in return, coach Tim Cone really needed Yancy De Ocampo to capitalized his knowledge on the triangle. He'll bend bars in order to get good center, some of us 'need to know' triangle revolves on the center spot which is Yancy and then followed by a good small forward which is JC Intal and shooting guard at most which is James Yap. I know triangle revolves on five corners not on three corners, all five players and five corners of the court revolves on each other phases.

You'll need wizard of oz to take part on this discussions, nah! formulation of the triangle is easy but tricky on the minds of other coaches, like what former coach Phil Jackson of the Chicago and Lakers taught to his team and established by Hall of Fame coach Sam Barry and continues to be multi-dimensional offense used by coach Tim Cone.

[real13fast13]

basketball smarts ang bentahe ni tui.. pero para maging effective sya sa pba kailangan yung outside shooting nya.. pero curious lang sino kaya magdraft sa kanya? bmeg?

[Big Ticket]

^FYI...di na po si gregorio coach ng bmeg...

[gerald23]

^FYI...di na po si gregorio coach ng bmeg...

Sa ngayon, siguro dahil nag-alburoto si coach Tim Cone, hehe. Bad Trip siya pumasok yung triangle ni Ka Ernie Barron sa pag-iisip niya against Rain or Shine.

[gone_wild03]

fajardo will be first and hodge will be second.
ang tanong...sino ang very much possible na maging number 3?...is it ellis,abueva,mallari or jensen?sino ba ang mas posible sa apat na ito base on the need of the team(which is petron)and base on the players style and abilities?

then the 4th pick?the 5th?the 6th?...

would it be marcelo,manuel or ramos on the 7? sino ba ang mas posible 7th pick sa tatlong ito base on the need of the team(which is ROS)and base on the players style and abilities?then the 8th?..the 9th...the 10th?

[mememon]

Parang nang-oogag lang. WTF! hindi pa derechuhin kung magpapadraft ba sya o hindi. Ang daming kaartehan sa katawan. Ano sya, Lebron James na may sariling presson entitled "The Decision"? Di pa nga nakakapasok sa PBA, may prima donna attitude na. Crap!

probably he was advised by that crabby tv network to do that lebron kind of bullshitness.

[mememon]

JUNEMAR FAJARDO:
Nakapag pasa na ko
application for the
2012 DRAFT. Gusto ko
nang maglaro sa PBA.
Kahit naman sino kumuha sa akin.

probably what he meant was : "kahit ano basta under smc" hohohoho

[gerald23]

I think a lot of movement will happen come draft day.

... dpat mgpadraft c fajardo. Abueva is a good player I just dont see him being drafted ahead from the likes of a mallari/ellis/ramos.. you know how pba teams look at players now a days.

1. Petron (From Air21) - Fajardo

2. Alaska Milk - Hodge (Could be traded. Might stick with the pick if they wont get anything good in exchange.)

3. Petron (From Barako) - Ellis (Loaded, could trade some of its players)

4. Meralco - Jensen / Mallari / Abueva

5. Barako (From Petron) - Ramos / Mallari / Abueva

6. Ginebra (From Powerade) - Jensen / Ramos / Mallari / Abueva

7. Rain or Shine - Manuel / Abueva

8. Barangay Ginebra - Buensuceso

9. B-Meg - Marcelo / Nabong

10. Powerade (From TNT) - Marcelo / Nabong

Para sa akin ito selection ko for the first round Rookie Draft this coming August 2012, sana meron tayong "Voting Poll" kung sino ang una sa first round, mas maganda makagawa tayo mga co- forumers.

1. Petron (From Air21) - Fajardo
2. Alaska Milk - Hodge (traded or on-hold?)
3. Petron (From Barako) - Ellis (traded or on-hold?)
4. Meralco - Abueva
5. Barako (From Petron) - Nabong/Mallari/Ramos/
6. Ginebra (From Powerade) - Jensen/Nabong /Ramos/
Mallari/Manuel/ Jeffries
7. Rain or Shine - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
8. Barangay Ginebra - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
9. B-Meg - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
10. Powerade (From TNT) - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries

P.S. I don't know kung may black horse na maaring pumasok sa rookie draft, Dahil si Mark Aguilar Jeffries ay de kalidad na player at lamang siya sa international exposure, at galing pa ito sa NCAA Division I against top contender na nasa itaas na mga isinama natin na possible players to be on the first three picks.

Nagkaroon lang naman ng problema itong si Jeffries nuong nakaraang taon while securing his papers. Kaya't sa ngayon na-complete na niya requirements time to go to the next step, sabi ng ilang sports writers may pagkakahawig ang laro nito kina Kelly Williams ng TNT and Arwin Santos ng Petron Blaze Boosters.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...le-defense-bid

[Big Ticket]

Kakatuwa yun mga mock drafts, walang definite choices hehe

[mememon]

Para sa akin ito selection ko for the first round Rookie Draft this coming August 2012, sana meron tayong "Voting Poll" kung sino ang una sa first round, mas maganda makagawa tayo mga co- forumers.

1. Petron (From Air21) - Fajardo
2. Alaska Milk - Hodge (traded or on-hold?)
3. Petron (From Barako) - Ellis (traded or on-hold?)
4. Meralco - Abueva
5. Barako (From Petron) - Nabong/Mallari/Ramos/
6. Ginebra (From Powerade) - Jensen/Nabong /Ramos/
Mallari/Manuel/ Jeffries
7. Rain or Shine - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
8. Barangay Ginebra - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
9. B-Meg - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries
10. Powerade (From TNT) - Manuel/Jensen/Nabong/
Ramos/Jensen/Jeffries

jeffries? he's all dunk and nothing follows.

[gerald23]

Kakatuwa yun mga mock drafts, walang definite choices hehe

Brader Big Ticket, yun nga gusto man natin magkaroon ng definite choices hindi puwede, LOL. Dahil open, sana magkaroon tayo ng Voting Poll, di kasi ako marunong gumawa, sino ba thread start nito dapat may voting poll na kasama itong thread, para maka-vote tayo.