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    Congress approves sin tax. Bisyo na 'to!

    Congress caps regular session with House approval of sin tax


    THE 15th CONGRESS today ends its second regular session, capped by the approval of the House of Representatives on third and final reading last night of the bill raising excise taxes on tobacco and alcohol.

    House Bill No. 5727, authored by Rep. Joseph Emilio A. Abaya (1st district, Cavite), seeks to update excise taxes currently pegged at 1997 prices.

    The measure will also categorize tobacco products, wines and fermented liquors into two tiers and distilled spirits into three, based on net retail prices. The Palace-certified bill was approved on second and third and final readings.

    "Basically the provisions in the committee report were approved," Rep. Isidro T. Ungab (3rd district, Davao City) confirmed in a text message.

    Mr. Ungab has said that the proposed tax system is expected to raise P31.35 billion which will be earmarked for universal health care and for the benefit of tobacco farmers.

    The measure will now be sent to the Senate for further deliberations. All revenue-raising measures emanate from the House.


    http://www.bworldonline.com/content....n-tax&id=53051

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    Bron w/ Pacroids Objection's Avatar
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    SMH maliit na kaligayahan na nga lang ang pag drink ng liquor tataasan pa ang presyo

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    The intent of these sin taxes is good kaso draconian naman itong version na 'to. Anti-poor. This will create more problems than it will solve. Vices such as smoking and drinking liquor are mechanisms that allow one to cope with the daily stresses of living in a highly stressful environment like Metro Manila.

    In their intent to "save" poor people from the long term health effects from smoking and drinking liquor, people will eventually die from too much stress or increased incidences of violence against other people. Crimes will also increase as people need more money to fund these vices. Estafa, petty theft, robbery.

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    Finally! Eto kailangan natin. Instead na panginom at sigarilyo ibili na lang ng makakain.

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    eto ang nagtataka ako kung bakit nagtatagal isabatas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    The intent of these sin taxes is good kaso draconian naman itong version na 'to. Anti-poor. This will create more problems than it will solve. Vices such as smoking and drinking liquor are mechanisms that allow one to cope with the daily stresses of living in a highly stressful environment like Metro Manila.

    In their intent to "save" poor people from the long term health effects from smoking and drinking liquor, people will eventually die from too much stress or increased incidences of violence against other people. Crimes will also increase as people need more money to fund these vices. Estafa, petty theft, robbery.
    Pre, mga tambay hindi naiistress. At mas marami ang gulo pag silang mga tambay mismo ang nakakainom. Less party for these laggards na rin.

    Nagegets ko yung punto mo, though. But, if they want to take a hit or a shot, they should WORK for it... HARD. And I can say, that will be totally worth it.

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    ano kaya magiging effect nito talaga sa huli..

    yung iba kaya na mabibigatan na sa presyo babawasan na ang bisyo.. or.. gagawa ng krimen like snatching/robbery para pang dagdag lang pambili dahil tuloy pa rin ang bisyo? hmm..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_tracer View Post
    ano kaya magiging effect nito talaga sa huli..

    yung iba kaya na mabibigatan na sa presyo babawasan na ang bisyo.. or.. gagawa ng krimen like snatching/robbery para pang dagdag lang pambili dahil tuloy pa rin ang bisyo? hmm..
    Ipasa ito, tignan ang epekto, pag may malaking flaw. AMENDMENT agad.

    Sana may Cha-Cha na rin.

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    will this put a lid on drunk driving? prevent minor delinquents from smoking? stop drunk husbands from battering their wife?

    most of the time, private-owned vehicle drivers figure in road accidents due to the influence of alcohol. they can still afford alcoholic beverage.
    minor will probably shift to the cheaper rugby. drunkards in the slums will become much poorer... more money is needed to sustain their vices. they'll beat their wives harder to extract money from them.

    nonetheless, its a welcome development. encountering 2nd hand smoke in public places won't be as often as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taga-dagat View Post
    Pre, mga tambay hindi naiistress. At mas marami ang gulo pag silang mga tambay mismo ang nakakainom. Less party for these laggards na rin.

    Nagegets ko yung punto mo, though. But, if they want to take a hit or a shot, they should WORK for it... HARD. And I can say, that will be totally worth it.
    Para namang lahat ng maapektohan nito tambay lang.

    Mga jeepney driver magiging on edge dahil walang yosi. Mas lalong dadami ang reckless driving at traffic altercations.

    Mga call center workers mas magiging irate dahil walang stress reliever. Lulugmok na lang sa workstation dahil sa stress.

    Weekends imbes na mag relax sa konting inuman ang mga ordinaryong empleyado... sex na lang ang gagawing stress reliever.

    Bridges and structures were made throughout history because their makers from engineers to workers had mechanisms to deal with coping with stress.

    Planning sessions were accomplished because of yosi breaks in between and drinking during celebrations thereafter.

    Kung i-ta-tax man ang mga bisyo na ito hindi dapat para i-tax out of existence. Paunti-unti dapat hindi one time big time.

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    Stress Reliever: Meditate, Pray, Drink Tea, Eat Chocolate, Read books/comics, Play Games, Jokes, Sing, Exercise/Yoga, Recreate, Arts, Activities, Hobbies, Socialize etc etc.

    Alcohol and Cigarettes are very unproductive stress reliever, nakaka bobo, pati kabataan ngayon puro inom nalang alam gawin.

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    Yan sana nga tuluyan na iyang maisabatas para naman mangonti na ang mga nagsisigarilyong buga ng buga ng lason kahit nasa public places, mga walang modo. Walang pakialam sa mga taong katabi nila na ang binubuga nila ay nalalangham namin which is toxic.

    Tama rin yan para hindi na matempt mga kabataan ngayong magsigarilyo at uminom.

    Nakakabwiset lang talaga yang mga nagyoyosi na yan na buga ng buga kahit saan, walang pakialam sa iba.

    Sana lang talaga eh maisabatas na yan at tuluyan nang maging mahal ang alak at sigarilyo. Wala namang benepisyo yang dalawang yan eh, nagdudulot pa nga yan ng sakit buti kung sa mga humihithit at umiinom lang eh paano damay kaming mga nakakalanghap.

    sabi ng iba lalo silang ma-sstress kasi mataas na price ng sigarilyo at alak, kaya daw maapektuhan performance nila, this is very illogical. oo talagang maglalaway sa una yang mga humihithit na yan pero hindi yan permanent, mas maganda nga eh, magbabagong buhay ka na. tapos tatamlay ka pa kasi wala ka ng bisyo.

    nagtataka lang ako ang tagal inabot ng bill na yan ah.
    Last edited by 21guns; Jun 7, 2012 at 05:03 PM. Reason: kulang

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    Kung ang isang bucket ng SML sa bar ay P250. Pag na apply ang sin tax, magiging doble na halaga nito?

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    FOI bill please.
    188+1 waiver please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar View Post
    Kung ang isang bucket ng SML sa bar ay P250. Pag na apply ang sin tax, magiging doble na halaga nito?
    Mura pa rin, kasi dito sa Japan, it will cost you ¥500 per glass of beer (that is around 250 pesos).

    Let's see what positive result it could bring but I don't think it will affect the working class that much. Target ng bill na ito yung mga wala ng pera ay nakukuha pang magbisyo.

    Mas madali ng mahuhuli ang mga walang trabahong kawatan, pwede na silang damputin agad dahil sa mahal ng alak at sigarilyo, saan nila nakuha ang pambili nito? Kailangan nilang i-prove na hindi ill-gotten ang pinambili nila nito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shintaro76 View Post
    Mura pa rin, kasi dito sa Japan, it will cost you ¥500 per glass of beer (that is around 250 pesos).

    Let's see what positive result it could bring but I don't think it will affect the working class that much. Target ng bill na ito yung mga wala ng pera ay nakukuha pang magbisyo.

    Mas madali ng mahuhuli ang mga walang trabahong kawatan, pwede na silang damputin agad dahil sa mahal ng alak at sigarilyo, saan nila nakuha ang pambili nito? Kailangan nilang i-prove na hindi ill-gotten ang pinambili nila nito.
    Target nito yung mga walang trabaho at walang pera pero nakakapagbisyo? Eh paano ma-ri-reach ang P31.35 billion target nito?

    "the proposed tax system is expected to raise P31.35 billion which will be earmarked for universal health care"

    That doesn't make sound economics.

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    The poor won't drink less and they won't smoke less just because of the sin tax. How many smokers and alcoholics do you know who quit because the price went up?

    This is just another cheap excuse for the government to tax us. This and the lottery are just another avenue to milk the poor.

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    Ah, F**k 'em.

    Yung mga nakakasabay ko minsan sa bus na nagsisindi sa loob, at yung mga driver ng tricycle na nagyoyosi habang naka upo ka sa likod ng tricycle..

    T*ngna nyo lahat. Sana maging 50 pesos na ang per stick.

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    Middle and upper class will do that. Include mo na rin ying mga foreigners na mahilig sa beer and other liquiors. Philippine is still cheaper if compared abroad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Papichulo168 View Post
    Target nito yung mga walang trabaho at walang pera pero nakakapagbisyo? Eh paano ma-ri-reach ang P31.35 billion target nito?

    "the proposed tax system is expected to raise P31.35 billion which will be earmarked for universal health care"

    That doesn't make sound economics.

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    Ginawa nato sa america. Nung kabataan ko, yosi $1 tapos min wage 3.75 kaya bale wala. Ngayon, isang pack $10, tapos min wage 7.25.

    mapa paisip ka rin. Ang alam ko, karamihan na kilala kong smoker, quit na. Yung mga di nag quit, may pera at afford nila. May mga nag switch din sa electric cig dahil mas mura daw yun kesa sa tunay.

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