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  1. #21
    Through Untrue: IT’S ACTUALLY A PROXY WAR
    By FR. ROLANDO V. DE LA ROSA, O.P., Rector, University of Santo Tomas

    June 3, 2012, 1:50am

    MANY people naively look at the over-stretched soap opera in the Senate as a battle between two adversaries: President Aquino and Chief Justice Corona. It is actually a proxy war waged by President Aquino (who thinks he embodies the values of good governance) against former President Arroyo (whom he thinks represents the disvalues he wants to eradicate). The Senate voted for a resounding victory for the President.

    His proxies have issued a press statement that they will now concentrate on their government work. Actually, they are returning to their usual preoccupation: To seek for another proxy war. The vicarious experience of victory is so intoxicating and addicting that proxies never get tired of venturing into, or creating, another war.

    Meanwhile, GMA’s proxy, the Chief Justice, is now harvesting the wages of defeat. This is the trouble with proxy wars: The damage is meant to symbolically hurt an enemy and force him to capitulate. The sad thing is, the enemy might not even be affected by the symbolic defeat and might not even give a hoot for the collateral damage suffered by the proxy.

    So, today, Chief Justice Corona bears alone the consequences of losing. The public no longer remembers his good deeds as a lawyer, judge, and educator for many years. Self-proclaimed media and political gurus show no pity in reducing his life into a few crumbs of anecdotes related to his impeachment. Only Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago showed a modicum of mercy when she refused to convict Corona because "removal by impeachment is a stunning penalty, the ruin of a life."

    Her words fell on deaf ears. Like vultures smelling blood, the President’s proxies swooped down on their prey, rollicking in a media-fueled feeding frenzy. I am reminded of the poem that goes:

    "When somebody yields to temptation


    and breaks one of our laws,

    We look for no good in his make-up,


    We only look for his flaws!


    "He is guilty!" we shout from the rooftops,


    We forget the good deeds he has done,


    We focus on one lost battle,


    And forget the times he has won.

    No one cares about how he was tempted,


    Nor praises the battles he’s fought;


    His name becomes food for the jackals

    –
For us who have never been caught.

    Chief Justice Renato Corona might have lost the proxy war. But he can serve as an affront to the opulent phoniness of government officials who "have never been caught."

    The public might consider him a failure. But failure has a redeeming social value. Lest we forget, martyrs win by losing. A loser can inspire a network of sympathy and compassion, involving people who believe in him or who identify with him. He can become the proxy of the "outsiders," people who are shut out socially, economically, and politically. He can wage his own battle against the proxies of those who have a stranglehold on the media, business, and politics.

    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/361052...ly-a-proxy-war

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by markfroilan View Post
    ^bakit sino ba meron?sino ba ang may pinakamalinis na integridad sa buong sansinukob?

    kailangan sa pagtututo ang integrity lalo na sa Law, paano niya ituturo ng maayos ang Taxation kung siya mismo, hindi ginawa sa SALN niya at ayusin niya muna problema niya sa mga kamag-anak niya na ginulangan nila, iyon ang Integity

  3. #23
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    papano naman hindi masisira ang integrity ni corona, mala joseph goebbels propaganda machine ang sumira sa kanya 24/7? abs-cbn + rappler + miscommunication group.

    ang reverse naman 'nyan, pag na perceived ka naman as a 'good' man, immaculately clean kahit na halus wala kang alam at sub-zero executive skills mo puwede ka malagay sa itaas na puwesto.

    mind you, up to this point walang proof na maipalabas na ill-gotten ang yaman ni corona, 35 years na ipon yun eh.

    besides, nag sign na siya ng unconditional waiver. pero yung immaculately clean na nag rail road ng impeachment, nakuhahang pumirma ng articles in just 1 day, hanggang ngayon halus 2 weeks na wala pang 20 ang pumipirma ng waiver.

    klarong-klaro po 'yan.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by markfroilan View Post
    ^bakit sino ba meron?sino ba ang may pinakamalinis na integridad sa buong sansinukob?

    dapat alamin mo rin yung ginawa nila doon sa clerk from Davao

    ang hustisya ay para sa lahat, hindi lang sa may kapangyarihan, tama ba ako ?

  5. #25
    ^kumpara sa iyo, mas kukunin siya ng mga top universities as faculty dahil sa credentials niya ADMU,Harvard,UST. Come on, dont tell me wala siyang karapatan magturo.

    at sino irerecommend mo magturo?si tupaz?

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_tracer View Post
    papano naman hindi masisira ang integrity ni corona, mala joseph goebbels propaganda machine ang sumira sa kanya 24/7? abs-cbn + rappler + miscommunication group.

    ang reverse naman 'nyan, pag na perceived ka naman as a 'good' man, immaculately clean kahit na halus wala kang alam at sub-zero executive skills mo puwede ka malagay sa itaas na puwesto.

    mind you, up to this point walang proof na maipalabas na ill-gotten ang yaman ni corona, 35 years na ipon yun eh.

    besides, nag sign na siya ng unconditional waiver. pero yung immaculately clean na nag rail road ng impeachment, nakuhahang pumirma ng articles in just 1 day, hanggang ngayon halus 2 weeks na wala pang 20 ang pumipirma ng waiver.

    klarong-klaro po 'yan.

    ang tanong na hindi nasagot ni Corona ay bakit hindi niya sinama sa SALN yung peso account niya ?

    bakit may condition ang waiver niya nung una ?

    bakit kung kelan may media nakipagbati sila sa mga kamag-anak na 30 years nang may alitan dahil sa lupang inagaw nila ?

    Corona is guilty as charged ! Hindi pwedeng ideny

    Kung nagpagamit siya kina GMA before, kasalanan niya iyon pero hindi niya dapat ginamit ang position sa mga PERSONAL na interest

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by markfroilan View Post
    ^kumpara sa iyo, mas kukunin siya ng mga top universities as faculty dahil sa credentials niya ADMU,Harvard,UST. Come on, dont tell me wala siyang karapatan magturo.

    at sino irerecommend mo magturo?si tupaz?


    hindi talaga ako kukunin ng mga universities dahil hindi naman ako abugado or teacher, ano ba iyan ?

    porket ba naging student ng Harvard at Ateneo, hindi na pwedeng maging corrupt, give me a break !

    porket ba nag-Docturate sa UST si Corona, kinampihan mo na ????

    at least si Tupaz, hindi pa nakakasuhan at may credibility pa

    ikaw, kung Law student ka, gusto mo ba na ang teacher mo eh may bahid ng graft at corruption ?

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by travelmate76 View Post
    hindi talaga ako kukunin ng mga universities dahil hindi naman ako abugado or teacher, ano ba iyan ?
    ok salamat sa pag invalidate mo sa sarili mo. masyado ka kasing nagmamalinis sa mga posts mo e.


    [/QUOTE]porket ba naging student ng Harvard at Ateneo, hindi na pwedeng maging corrupt, give me a break !

    porket ba nag-Docturate sa UST si Corona, kinampihan mo na ????[/QUOTE]


    babalik ako sa aking unang tanong, sino ba ang malinis?Pakibasa nga ang Article na idinikit ko sa itaas titled "It's Actually a Proxy War"

    [/QUOTE]at least si Tupaz, hindi pa nakakasuhan at may credibility pa[/QUOTE]

    Ah, hindi mo alam na may pinatatayong bahay worth P50M sa xavierville or loyola heights iyang perceived mong credible na tongressman?

    [/QUOTE]ikaw, kung Law student ka, gusto mo ba na ang teacher mo eh may bahid ng graft at corruption ?[/QUOTE]

    babalik ako sa aking unang katanungan, sino ba ang malinis? marami ang nagmamalinis.

    You for one know na political ang pagkaka tanggal kay Corona. Ang usaping non-disclosure ay tapos na kaya nga siya tinanggal. May 27, 2012, Sunday, nagkita kita ang Enrile, Binay(Estrada) block sa bahay ni Loren Legarda sa Forbes Makati para pag usapan ang fate ni Corona. At napagkasunduan na bitawan siya sa dahilang pulitikal, next year po ay eleksiyon na naman at kailangan nila(senators) ng pera pang kampanya, at exposure sa media, something na meron ang abscbn.

    at sa huli ngayong natanggal na siya - so what? kung titingnan mo pa rin ang credentials ni Corona, may "balls" po siya para magturo.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by markfroilan View Post
    ok salamat sa pag invalidate mo sa sarili mo. masyado ka kasing nagmamalinis sa mga posts mo e.

    porket ba naging student ng Harvard at Ateneo, hindi na pwedeng maging corrupt, give me a break !

    porket ba nag-Docturate sa UST si Corona, kinampihan mo na ????[/QUOTE]


    babalik ako sa aking unang tanong, sino ba ang malinis?Pakibasa nga ang Article na idinikit ko sa itaas titled "It's Actually a Proxy War"

    [/QUOTE]at least si Tupaz, hindi pa nakakasuhan at may credibility pa[/QUOTE]

    Ah, hindi mo alam na may pinatatayong bahay worth P50M sa xavierville or loyola heights iyang perceived mong credible na tongressman?

    [/QUOTE]ikaw, kung Law student ka, gusto mo ba na ang teacher mo eh may bahid ng graft at corruption ?[/QUOTE]

    babalik ako sa aking unang katanungan, sino ba ang malinis? marami ang nagmamalinis.

    You for one know na political ang pagkaka tanggal kay Corona. Ang usaping non-disclosure ay tapos na kaya nga siya tinanggal. May 27, 2012, Sunday, nagkita kita ang Enrile, Binay(Estrada) block sa bahay ni Loren Legarda sa Forbes Makati para pag usapan ang fate ni Corona. At napagkasunduan na bitawan siya sa dahilang pulitikal, next year po ay eleksiyon na naman at kailangan nila(senators) ng pera pang kampanya, at exposure sa media, something na meron ang abscbn.

    at sa huli ngayong natanggal na siya - so what? kung titingnan mo pa rin ang credentials ni Corona, may "balls" po siya para magturo.[/QUOTE]



    ay pikon, Miriam Sanatiago ka ba ?

    bakit naman ako magmamalinis, para saan ?

    Proxy War. I don't think so, 20-3 nga ang boto, GUILTY as charged. Sana huwag namang gumawa ng storya, ang maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw, hindi siya nag-declare nag tamang SALN, napaka-simple ng argumento, huwag na nating ibahin at pahabain

    si Tupaz may Php 50 million na bahay, eh di pa-imbestigahan natin, ireklamo sa Congress, pero hanggat hindi pa siya nakakasuhan at nahahatulan tulad ni Corona, credible pa rin siya, tama ba ako?

    masyado mo namang binibida ang ABS-CBN, ok ka lang ? dahil nandon si Kris Aquino ? Irrevelant na kung political man ang rason, the fact na gumawa ng 'Mali' si Corona eh sapat na upang siya ay kasuhan at ma-convict

    aanhin mo ang credentials niya kung may duda naman, hindi worth it

  10. #30
    move on iho, na impeach na po siya. pareho naman po tayo hindi kumakatawan sa kahit anong institusyon sa pilipinas. tama na rin ang pagmamalinis.

    At the end of the day, tapos na ang drama sa senado ang tanong ay Nasaan ka?..

  11. #31
    Dapat nga kasuhan pa siya ng Office of the Ombudsman at BIR dahil sa maling pagdeklara ng SALN

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by markfroilan View Post
    move on iho, na impeach na po siya. pareho naman po tayo hindi kumakatawan sa kahit anong institusyon sa pilipinas. tama na rin ang pagmamalinis.

    At the end of the day, tapos na ang drama sa senado ang tanong ay Nasaan ka?..


    bakit ba tayo ang nag-aaway dito ?

    hindi kailangan magmalinis, doon lang ako sa TAMA

    at hindi na talaga siya qualified magturo

    peace

  13. #33
    Ay may pinanghuhugutan!Hayaan mo na po ang ombudsman at huwag mo na po sila pangunahan, hindi ka naman po abogado. Move on sir!

    Ang kay Corona lang ay, naghahanap lang po siya ng bagong trabaho. Hayaan na rin po natin siya makipaglaban sa korte.

  14. #34
    correct

    mag-negosyo na lang

  15. #35
    yup yup peace din.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by blue_tracer View Post
    B.A. (ateneo). Law (ateneo). BAR passer. MBA (ateneo). LL. M. (harvard). doctor of law (ust).

    may karapatan naman siya siguro magturo.

    kung 'di siya qualified, sige si pnoy henyo na lang.

    Kampante ka ba kung ang teacher mo ay certified liar?


    Makakasiguro ka ba na hindi kasinungalingan ang mga tinuturo nya sa inyo?


    Pero kung sabagay... ang sabi nga nila maraming sinungaling sa abogado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkheM View Post
    Kampante ka ba kung ang teacher mo ay certified liar?


    Makakasiguro ka ba na hindi kasinungalingan ang mga tinuturo nya sa inyo?


    Pero kung sabagay... ang sabi nga nila maraming sinungaling sa abogado.

    correct marami talagang sinugaling na abogado

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by travelmate76 View Post
    kailangan sa pagtututo ang integrity lalo na sa Law, paano niya ituturo ng maayos ang Taxation kung siya mismo, hindi ginawa sa SALN niya at ayusin niya muna problema niya sa mga kamag-anak niya na ginulangan nila, iyon ang Integity
    bakit taxation lang bang pwedeng ituro? lol. isa pa. its a good way to clean his name by teaching.

  19. #39
    ^epic fail

    basahin muna ang previous posts

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by travelmate76 View Post
    hindi siya qualified magturo dahil wala siyang integrity at honesty, kawawa lang magiging students niya
    ang mga senators, congressmen at presidente na pinagtulung-tulungan sya may integrity at honesty, and sound mind ba?

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