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    Exclamation Pinoys Please Learn!: Stop Chinese Investors from Owning Land Rights, Friends Only

    While Beijing's economic sanctions are still in effect (Banana, Other agricultural products, and tourism) and Chinese Navy encircling of Panatag (90 Chinese Vessels vs. 2 Philippines), Chinese investors are looking for MORE CONTROL of agricultural lands in the Philippines.

    Chinese own mining companies that employ only Chinese CITIZENS. What kind of an investor is that? At the same time they SMUGGLE gold and metals out of the country. They have FULL CONTROL of the whole process, from extraction to shipping.


    Chinese traders eyeing mango, vegetable business
    Source: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/busi...usiness-224459

    Chinese investors eye Davao’s agri lands
    Source: http://www.pia.gov.ph/news/index.php...=1541338448284

    Chinese businessmen eye investment prospects in Davao City
    Source: http://www.zambotimes.com/archives/4...avao-City.html

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    a.k.a. Adrian \^o^/ istarbaks's Avatar
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    what can i do?

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    Heto pa...
    Unabated dumping of agriculture produce from China...
    http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/op...ulture-produce

    Dahan-dahan ng pinapatay ang sarili nating kakayahan maging self sufficient sa pagkain. Dahil sa pagbagsak ng ating competitive edge dahil na rin sa pag taas ng singil ng kuryente, tollways, langis na napunta na sa mga oligarchs, taas ng halaga ng agricultural inputs, at sa taas ng VAT, walang laban ang ating magsasaka sa mas mababang halagang imported agricultural products galing China.

    And the bad thing is it is our own people in the Customs and our post-Edsa neoliberal policy of Import liberalization and not really the Chinese are the culprits in that case.

    At ganyan din sa mining, sino nagpapabaya? Tayo tayo din. Why do we allow it? Para may masabi na maraming pumapasok na foreign investors? Di ba gusto ninyo ng mas neoliberal na climate para dumami daw ang foreign investors? Policy ba ng Mainland China yan o kapabayaan ng mga Makapili sa gobyerno natin? Kung policy man yan ng China bakit tayo nagpapagoyo?

    Kaya dapit clear ang policy, kung sa mining bukod sa tax dapat may 50/50 share din sa mga nakukuhang kayamanan o langis. Hindi yung 10% (?) of 10% share gaya ng sa Malampaya gas fields na mas matinding panggogoyo sa atin. Dapat din ang mga regulation gaya ng para ma prevent ang environmental destruction at ang pag empleyo ng mga local na tauhan.

    Kasalanan din natin ito at hindi dahil lang ang mga Chek-wa. Ganun din ang trade sanction dahil sa mga saber rattling ng PNoy admin pero takot naman at nasa saya ng Mother America. Oo nga bully ang China. Pero, walang di makukuha sa tamang diplomasya. This does not mean surrender. But peaceful cooperation and sharing. Walang magbubully kung walang nagpapa bully.

    Kaya ang solusyon ng Rightwinger na si Erick San Juan ay ang nationalist ideology which will govern all our policies and the policy makers. Gaya ng pagsasabalik ng FDR(FD Roosevelt) traditions... http://larouchephil.com/2009/the-fdr...n-philippines/
    ... at sa gayon ma industrialize ang Pilipinas at ma nurture natin ang local industries na syang magpapalaki ng market at kita ng mamamayan by removing all those neoliberal policies of privatization, deregulation at liberalization. Kailangan ma nationalize ulit ang pagmamayari sa mga tollways, Petron, ma activate ang Bataan Nuclear. But first we should say no to the greedy loansharks just like what Nestor Kirchner of Argentina had done. At sa gayon ma sustain natin ang mataas na military budget to project our sovereignty on our territorial waters.
    Last edited by albertus magnus; Jun 3, 2012 at 04:19 PM.

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    Well, ganun talaga hinahayaan natin eh. They do business here tapos ilalabas din pera natin.

    SOrry to say pero mga walang hiya at nanlalamang kung makakalamang ang mga chinese sa negosyo. Not being racist pero its the truth. Wala naman kasing langit at impyerno sa mga yan eh. Money is everything.

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    pathetic penoys!!

    bakit hindi ganun yun headline no..

    Phil Govt eyeing mango, vegetable business

    Phil Govt eye Davao’s agri lands

    Phil Govt eye investment prospects in Davao City


    puro kayo reklamo!! buti pa nga ibang bansa they see Philippines as the land of business and opportunities.. eh ang mga penots? lalo na mga gobyerno nyo.. san na mga pera sa pork barrel nila.. bakit hindi na lang sila ang mag invest?

    you guys are pathetic!! pathetic people who vote pathetic politicians..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meanie!! View Post
    Well, ganun talaga hinahayaan natin eh. They do business here tapos ilalabas din pera natin.

    SOrry to say pero mga walang hiya at nanlalamang kung makakalamang ang mga chinese sa negosyo. Not being racist pero its the truth. Wala naman kasing langit at impyerno sa mga yan eh. Money is everything.
    mabuti nga sila naisip nila mag invest sa atin.. eh ang gobyerno natin? naisip ba nila mag invest sa sariling atin?
    dapat sana gobyerno natin magsimula gumawa nga mga producto at yun ang tangkilikin natin. kaya naman natin kaso madami corrupt.. kung sakaling walang investor sa atin ilan percent kaya ang unemployed ngayon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissFugliness View Post
    pathetic penoys!!

    bakit hindi ganun yun headline no..

    Phil Govt eyeing mango, vegetable business

    Phil Govt eye Davao’s agri lands

    Phil Govt eye investment prospects in Davao City


    puro kayo reklamo!! buti pa nga ibang bansa they see Philippines as the land of business and opportunities.. eh ang mga penots? lalo na mga gobyerno nyo.. san na mga pera sa pork barrel nila.. bakit hindi na lang sila ang mag invest?

    you guys are pathetic!! pathetic people who vote pathetic politicians..
    Tama po kayo.

    Special mention are the traitor-generals of the AFP. The corruption of the generals under GMA is estimated to be of a MINIMUM of 500 Million pesos. More are missing. The amount can already modernize our ground forces. What more if we include the generals since the EDSA revolution!

    Puro kick-backs and "processing fee" ang politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gUy^ View Post
    mabuti nga sila naisip nila mag invest sa atin.. eh ang gobyerno natin? naisip ba nila mag invest sa sariling atin?
    dapat sana gobyerno natin magsimula gumawa nga mga producto at yun ang tangkilikin natin. kaya naman natin kaso madami corrupt.. kung sakaling walang investor sa atin ilan percent kaya ang unemployed ngayon?
    You are correct bossing. I hope the president will be firm and commit to Filipino and friendly countries only OR let the government TAKE THE INITIATIVE.

    Sobra frustrated kami, most of all Filipino-Chinese who were vocal against China. In the end, the government will STILL allow them? Saan kami lulugar?! If that's what the government will do - PLACATE and APPEASEMENT to Beijing in OUR OWN land. Tatahimik nalang kami Filipino-Chinese dahil takot kami ma-profile ng Beijing.

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    Thumbs up Good News: Immigration Got Stricter (or simply began doing their job)

    Immigration tightens rules for PH-born aliens
    Source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/me...ph-born-aliens

    "Mistakes" probably due to corruption and incompetence.
    BI acting alien registration chief Atty. Ronaldo Ledesma said his office discovered the records of hundreds of alien dependents who were mistakenly registered as native-born foreigners just because they were born in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andresbonifacio2 View Post
    You are correct bossing. I hope the president will be firm and commit to Filipino and friendly countries only OR let the government TAKE THE INITIATIVE.

    Sobra frustrated kami, most of all Filipino-Chinese who were vocal against China. In the end, the government will STILL allow them? Saan kami lulugar?! If that's what the government will do - PLACATE and APPEASEMENT to Beijing in OUR OWN land. Tatahimik nalang kami Filipino-Chinese dahil takot kami ma-profile ng Beijing.
    wtf are you talking about?

    why not just call yourself Filipino na lang.. adding the word "Chinese" to your ethnicity is just an insult to the Fil-Chi community. pffft!!!

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    ^ eh sa kung may lahing chinese nga sya anong masama kung sabihin man nya.

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    lalayo pa ba kayo, pumunta na lang kayo ng divisoria. hanggang ngayon sinisisi ng boss ko (fil-chi) ang mga taga mainland kung bakit ang mahal ng upa ng isang pwesto dun. tapos ang mga employees puro mga taga mainland.

    tapos ang mga pulis natin may checkpoint, hindi pinapadaan ang mga delivery trucks/vans walang "passes"

    pano ang mga businessmen natin, nakafocus sa real-estate imbes na agriculture.

    afaik, mas importante ang pagkain kesa bahay, kahit na pareho silang nasa basic needs of man

    kaya sigurado mas madaming demands sa pagkain.

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    I am with TS with this one. Well the Multi nationals owned most of the big farming outfits in Mindanao. The Japanese got their share now the chinese wants theirs and then leaving our farmers with no land to farm. Sick world isn't it? Ating lupa, ating trabahor, prutas natin, kanilang business at produkto. Why can't we just do it ourselves ganoon ba tayong kabobo? Some will blame again the govt. kasalanan na naman ng iba.
    In fairness naman sa mga fil. chinese, some of them are living in our country few generations back, wala na silang ibang bansa kundi ang Pilipinas leave them alone with this issue. Yung iba naman ito ang mga dapat i condemn. Making a lot of money then launder it somewhere else. Na kung iikot sana ang pondong kanilang inilaunder sa atin e magbibigay sana ng maraming hanapbuhay.

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    It is part of a global capitalist system, the same one that provides for a middle class lifestyle for a minority of Filipinos.

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    Kaya namamatay ang mahihina at mga bobong bansa. Well, dapat kasing may control sa field kung saan pwedeng ilagay ang foreign investment. Agricultural country tayo tapos ibibigay natin sa kanila ang ating bread and butter? Ang mamahal na nga ng kapalit ng ating ng ating produkto ibibigay pa natin sa kanila. Same thing with Greece for sure they will fail so do the rest o Europe. The biggest economy will fail too soon if they don't "DO" something soon. Like the thing they did prior to WW1 and 2. The world business pattern is designed to serve only the strong nations and people and designed to failed somewhere along the line and war is the rebooting tools. Unless........

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat1230 View Post
    lalayo pa ba kayo, pumunta na lang kayo ng divisoria. hanggang ngayon sinisisi ng boss ko (fil-chi) ang mga taga mainland kung bakit ang mahal ng upa ng isang pwesto dun. tapos ang mga employees puro mga taga mainland.

    tapos ang mga pulis natin may checkpoint, hindi pinapadaan ang mga delivery trucks/vans walang "passes"

    pano ang mga businessmen natin, nakafocus sa real-estate imbes na agriculture.

    afaik, mas importante ang pagkain kesa bahay, kahit na pareho silang nasa basic needs of man

    kaya sigurado mas madaming demands sa pagkain.
    Good point.

    Fil-Chi members of civil society groups have pointed out that (re: illegal mainlanders) "akala nila may ginto dito sa Pilipinas."

    I just hope immigration will do their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissFugliness View Post
    why not just call yourself Filipino na lang.. adding the word "Chinese" to your ethnicity is just an insult to the Fil-Chi community. pffft!!!
    LOL As if I can choose my ancestors.

    We in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. I would rather call myself Filipino only, but outside people would say we are Chinese. (Hindi ko kasalanan na maputi at medyo singkit ako)

    My purpose is also to remind people that we are for the Philippines, hence my use of the term "Filipino-Chinese". I am trying to raise our profile. I hope the day will come that I am able to say only Filipino, and in turn other Filipinos will acknowledge us for our love of the country.

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    Sabi nga ni Erick San Juan, more provocations will only make us closer to becoming a province of China. So any t*t for tat, will make us only the biggest loser. Lalo na ngayong, mahina ekonomiya ng Amerika at Europe, gustong gusto ng Military Industrial complex na tumiba sa gyera.

    Pumunta si Pnoy sa UK, para daw mag-invite ng UK investors. Sabi ng iilan, maniwala daw sila ngayong pabagsak din ang ekonomiya ng UK. Accdg to E. San Juan, this is all about the South China Sea. Voltaire Gazmin even had a meeting with Panetta in Singapore. Many think tank meetings. Naghahanda na ba sila ng scenario?

    Sabi nga niya eh, moro moro lang daw ito. Paano ba ang hatian? Ang norte sa China at ang MILF Mindanao sa US?

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    what happened to the 60/40 law?

    immune ang chinese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftwcp955 View Post
    I am with TS with this one. Well the Multi nationals owned most of the big farming outfits in Mindanao. The Japanese got their share now the chinese wants theirs and then leaving our farmers with no land to farm. Sick world isn't it? Ating lupa, ating trabahor, prutas natin, kanilang business at produkto. Why can't we just do it ourselves ganoon ba tayong kabobo? Some will blame again the govt. kasalanan na naman ng iba.
    In fairness naman sa mga fil. chinese, some of them are living in our country few generations back, wala na silang ibang bansa kundi ang Pilipinas leave them alone with this issue. Yung iba naman ito ang mga dapat i condemn. Making a lot of money then launder it somewhere else. Na kung iikot sana ang pondong kanilang inilaunder sa atin e magbibigay sana ng maraming hanapbuhay.
    if you don't blame your government then who to blame?

    You are right. Sarilin nyong bansa, sarili nyong lupa, prutas..etc. ngayon? ano nangyari dyan? nabubulok na lang. Look around you. Does this country looks like it's moving forward? Every new buildings, new development like in Makati, Fort...ect napupunta ba yan sa taong bayan? The mere fact na kahit yun basic building materials like mga buhangin, semento etc puro na lang yan galing sa private. walang pera umiikot sa bansang Pilipinas.

    Now, The rich land in Mindanao. Ilan dekada na nandyan yun DOLE and DEL Monte na nakikinabang sa lupa ninyo..dapat all these years naisipan na ng govt nyo na sila naman yun makinabang sa mismo lupang Pilipinas.. pero ano nangyari? mas inuuna yun bulsa nila kesa sa pag invest para may pera umiikot sa bansa

    Ano naman masama na China yun gustong mag invest. There are 1.3 billion people in China. Kung hindi kayo t@nga ewan ko lang. 1.3 billion people who will buy your fruits... wtf!!!

    Lastly, yun mga Fil-Chi dito putak ng putak... is it because you guys feel threatened na there are bigger investors na mismo nang gagaling sa China? I know a lot of Fil-Chi 1st generation minamaliit nila yun mga mainlanders. kasi nung dati poor pa mga mainlanders sila yun mayaman coz they had a better life here in the Phils as compared to those stuck in the Maos era there. Pero right now, baligtad na yun situation... yan kasi napapala sa sobrang pinoy mentality..nagiging crabs na mga 2nd-3rd generation just like the penoys...

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