2nd USA Warship SOLD to Philippines also stripped of Guns

[CharliePrince]

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/2nd-us-wars...054005685.html

I can't help but at this, pathetic, RP bought ships and USA sure enough sells it.. stripping it of weapons!



Washington has turned down Manila's request to retain the entire weapons system in the second US Coast Guard cutter the Philippines is acquiring from the United States.

Top Filipino military officials flew to the US last weekend for the ceremonial turnover on May 23 of the 378-ft USCG Dallas in North Charleston, South Carolina.

According to Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin, the second cutter will also have most of its weapons removed as happened with the first cutter acquired from the US by the Philippine Navy last year.

In the case of what is now the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, all its weapons were removed except for a 76-mm Oto Melara automatic cannon.

In a meeting in Washington on April 30, Gazmin personally asked his counterpart, US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, to keep the USCG Dallas in its original state and to restore the weapons that were removed from its sister ship, the Gregorio del Pilar.
The Gregorio del Pilar is currently the biggest and most modern warship in the Philippine Navy fleet which still relies on World War II-vintage vessels.

Armed Forces of the Philippines Chief of Staff General Jessie Dellosa and Philippine Navy Fleet commander Rear Admiral Jose Luis Alano will take possession of the Dallas during a symbolic turnover on Wednesday.

The vessel will be renamed the BRP Ramon Alcaraz, after the World War II hero and former fleet commander, and will be under the command of Navy Captain Ernesto Baldovino.

In April 1942, Alcaraz was commander one of the Philippines' three torpedo boats that shot down three of nine attacking Japanese fighter planes.

After the turnover, the Philippine Navy crew will undergo training before they sail the ship home to the Philippines.

[razzer_rising]

I want to know kung anong use nitong warship without guns. Can any from the army explain? Baka sayang lang kasi yung money natin dyan.

[Jspice]

And I thought were friends!


Can we contact al qaeda and let them kidnap this americans. Baka sila pag namigay ng weapons walang bawas bawas.

[jpd74]

may extra bayad ang mga weapons at sensors ng bapor .. kulang sa budget ang pinas ..

[CharliePrince]

I want to know kung anong use nitong warship without guns. Can any from the army explain? Baka sayang lang kasi yung money natin dyan.

the main point of the article is that USA would charge more for the Warships if it included its weapons

kaya nla tinatangal yun

[Gide0n]

Title is inaccurate. It isn't a warship anymore without guns

kawawa naman ang P'nas, talagang nanlilimos na e

[blue_tracer]

sa lahat na yata ng allies ng u.s. tayo pinakawawa.

eh 'di 'ship' na lang talaga ito. pambihira.

dapat nito consider na bumili sa iba namang countries such as UK, japan, sweden.

latak na lang nakukuha natin sa u.s. lagi.

[creech]

gusto ng US eh bilhin yung ikakabit na armas sa warship. its that how they treat allies? friends daw

dapat talaga sa iba na lang kumuha. kinakawawa na nga tayo ng china tapos gagawin din ng US ito sa atin. ordinary ship na lang yun.

[xctrekker]

Title is inaccurate. It isn't a warship anymore without guns

kawawa naman ang P'nas, talagang nanlilimos na e

Even with the guns complete, it is still not a warship, never was. It's just big a Coast Guard vessel. Ipinipilit lang natin for Naval use/role.

I think they stripped the guns in the hope that they will win contracts to refurbish/re-arm the vessel later. Kahit sa pagbibigay ng limos, negosyo pa rin ang habol ni Uncle Sam.

[c_brain]

Ba't gusto nyo kasama yung guns? E wala naman tayo pambili nung bala. Mainis lang lalo si Obama kasi baka pati yung bala hingin pa natin.

[cuch]

kabitan na lang ng mga paltik na kanyon dami nyan sa danao bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

[blue_tracer]

para hindi magalit ang china sa u.s. hehehe

[cuch]

pati us nabiktima din ng china, nabentahan ng mga chekwa ng substandard, recycled electronic components na ginagamit sa weapons systems at navigation ng mga eroplano ng america, kaya galit na galit si panetta, naisahan sila.

[juantarug]

dahil abnoy ang presidente natin at baka ipagyabang nanaman just like what happened in Panatag shoal. Parang bata na may bagong laruan na gusto agad matesting. Isusubo pa tayo sa conflict. Our neighboring countries, including our allies like the US know through communiques the foreign policy of our existing administration, including of course, the courses of action (if any) of "The One".

[absinthe_888]

Mali nga na sabihing "warship" e. USCG cutter lang to.

[cuch]

pr yan para mas nakakatakot pakinggan hehehehe

[blue_tracer]

kabitan na lang ng mga paltik na kanyon dami nyan sa danao bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

pakabitan ng paltik every 2 meters oh dami din yun.

ehek corrosive pala dagat. stainless dapat yung paltik. mapapamahal ah. hahaha

[jpd74]

tirador na lang ... magdala na lang ng maraming bato ...

[Nightwing2]

It still needs US congressional review for those additional weapons and sensors.There are still WHECs in USCG service. Those need spares. The US Coast Guard is also not the most well funded of the armed services.
Philippine defense is the responsibility of Filipinos. Why don't we spend on our own replacement radar and equipment?


The thing that a lot of people forget is that the removal of the equipment actually simplifies the transfer for the PN. It speeds up the transfer AND stand-up process. Adding weapons lengthens the process and prevents us from benefitting immediately from its use. PF15 for example was patrolling and in the face of the Chinese within the first month of it being in-country. Right now what we need are ships at sea providing a presence in the area the Chinese are claiming. If we elect to up arm the Dallas now, it will be months before we receive it and years before it is combat ready. Unfortunately for us, we are fighting this "war" with the equipment we have. From the looks of it, the PNs plans are two fold - getting equipment we can use with a minimum of training for our immediate needs while acquiring newer, more heavily armed ships for the future.

[istarbaks]

tirador na lang ... magdala na lang ng maraming bato ...

lol, ito rin sana ang suggestion ko. basta't high quality yung tirador okay lang.