Chief Justice Corona Impeachment Thread 5

[hey_u]

The exchange rate in 1968 is an issue now?

no but it cast doubts on TJ's credibility if any at all.

[pollywog]

Corona’s dollar withdrawal records from Dec. 12 to Dec. 22, 2011 are as follows: $135,359 on Dec. 12 from PSBank-Katipunan; $418,193 on Dec. 12 from the Bank of the Philippine Islands-San Francisco del Monte; $401,658 million on Dec. 13 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $769,681 on Dec. 15 from PSBank-Katipunan; $487,998 on Dec. 19 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $687,433 on Dec. 19 from BPI Investment Management Inc.; and $350,000 on Dec. 22 from PSBank.

Does this equate to $2.4M?

[andrew_paxton]

doon ako natawa part na

sabi nga ho constitution, as may be provided by law. yun nga ang law.

natigilan ng ilang segundo si sen. kiko.

ang shunga lang si kiko matsing. nahigop na ata ng kabit nya yung utak nya. hahaha

[TTJ]

Musta kaya mga meetings ng Liberal Party?

[despisePappus]

Corona’s dollar withdrawal records from Dec. 12 to Dec. 22, 2011 are as follows: $135,359 on Dec. 12 from PSBank-Katipunan; $418,193 on Dec. 12 from the Bank of the Philippine Islands-San Francisco del Monte; $401,658 million on Dec. 13 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $769,681 on Dec. 15 from PSBank-Katipunan; $487,998 on Dec. 19 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $687,433 on Dec. 19 from BPI Investment Management Inc.; and $350,000 on Dec. 22 from PSBank.

Does this equate to $2.4M?

To be fair with the Chief Justice, he just answered the question of the senator-judge how much is his dollar deposit account as of that time.

It is stup!d for him to answer the amount of withdrawals from Dec 12 to Dec 22, right?

Or you didn't get how to answer such question?


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By the way, can you post here the link to the table of history of dollar exchange rates from the 1960s. Google is not very helpful.

[hey_u]

Kiko Pangilinan also actually said the same thing. If the CJ bought the dollars, he would already have paid taxes on it, and the interest accrued automatically gets witholding tax as well.

But, you know, as you said, what does Pangilinan know?

are you referring sa kinita nya sa forex. of course if you are into forex trading you still have to declare yung kita mo sa forex plus interest.

What im interested about is the sources of income to buy all the dollars. was this declared on his tax?

[despisePappus]

Yung mga nag-aaccuse ng thief daw si thief justice.

Please show proof please para di naman pagtawanan ang level ng intelligence ninyo.

You only prove to me that we should prioritize education in this country. It shows.

[kuroihikari]

no but it cast doubts on TJ's credibility if any at all.

No chance at all it was a rough estimate? You know, because it was 44 years ago? I cannot even find the info on the internet.

And just for the sake of putting things in perspective, money you put in the bank in 1978 (the farthest I can research dollar exchange rates go by), assuming conservative interest rates (2.5% p.a. compounded) would be worth almost 15 times what it was today.

[andrew_paxton]

Yung mga nag-aaccuse ng thief daw si thief justice.

Please show proof please para di naman pagtawanan ang level ng intelligence ninyo.

You only prove to me that we should prioritize education in this country. It shows.

madaling mag accuse, mahirap mag prove
puro sila salita, kulang naman sa substance sinasabi nila.
manang mana talaga kay abnoy
hahaha

[kuroihikari]

Corona’s dollar withdrawal records from Dec. 12 to Dec. 22, 2011 are as follows: $135,359 on Dec. 12 from PSBank-Katipunan; $418,193 on Dec. 12 from the Bank of the Philippine Islands-San Francisco del Monte; $401,658 million on Dec. 13 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $769,681 on Dec. 15 from PSBank-Katipunan; $487,998 on Dec. 19 from Allied Bank-Kamias; $687,433 on Dec. 19 from BPI Investment Management Inc.; and $350,000 on Dec. 22 from PSBank.

Does this equate to $2.4M?

How much are the deposits during the same interval?

[hey_u]

No chance at all it was a rough estimate? You know, because it was 44 years ago? I cannot even find the info on the internet.

And just for the sake of putting things in perspective, money you put in the bank in 1978 (the farthest I can research dollar exchange rates go by), assuming conservative interest rates (2.5% p.a. compounded) would be worth almost 15 times what it was today.

so amnesia naman ngayon.

i still remember my very first salary on my very first job.

if you are into your first serious dollar investment, im sure he would remember as well. you only have to remember number 2 or 3 lang eh...hihihi...sorry but i dont give him the benefit of the doubt...but i wont fault you if you would...

[thefanofnoone]

For the sake of information, heto ang historical exchange rate ng USD to PHP
http://intl.econ.cuhk.edu.hk/exchang...ndex.php?cid=1
IMO, any investor worth his/her salt would invest in the USD dahil talaga nga naman nagskyrocket yung price.

[kentagon]

Yun ang sabi sa AMLAC. may mga transactions over the years pero abnormally high during election times and the period when he was impeached.

sa pinu pursue mo kasi eh parang lighting strike three times. at parang walang kaduda duda.

and dont worry this waiver will certainly be used sana sa BIR in the future. gudluck sa tj mo

Ang kung may high transaction in those years, ano naman ang implication? May malice na agad? Kung may tinatago ang isang matalinong magnanakaw, siyempre, di niya gagawin sa mga ganyang period...

[despisePappus]

Yun nga ang nakakatawa, nag-withdraw lang nung mga election period may malice na agad.

Ni walang maipakitang katibayan na may anomalya nung mga panahong iyon.

Nag-withdraw o nag-deposit ako ng pera, wala kayong pakialam.

Unless mapatunayan ninyo na may ilegal akong ginagawa. Patunayan ninyo.

Mga b0b0 talaga ang iba dito.

Uhmm, sorry. Mababa lang talaga ang tolerance level ko sa mga mahihina ang mga kukote.

[blue_tracer]

yung assumption kung alin ang malicious o hindi.. alin ang in good faith or bad faith.. saan dapat may presumption of regularity + innocence or guilt.. inaboso na ng todo-todo ng daang matuwid. sobra naman 'yang garapal.

[ututina]

one thing i know for sure. The AMLC report is a raw data report and if done correctly, information and conclusions can be extracted from it.

Morales's tabulation maybe MISLEADING but not necessarily outright ERRONEOUS. it is a TYPE of calculation.

[hey_u]

Ang kung may high transaction in those years, ano naman ang implication? May malice na agad? Kung may tinatago ang isang matalinong magnanakaw, siyempre, di niya gagawin sa mga ganyang period...

Only the TJ would know. Overconfidence maybe?

syempre andyan naman yung very confidential na SALN ng mga justices at yung FCD law to protect him di ba? who would have thought a chief justice could be impeached?

[kuroihikari]

one thing i know for sure. The AMLC report is a raw data report and if done correctly, information and conclusions can be extracted from it.

Morales's tabulation maybe MISLEADING but not necessarily outright ERRONEOUS. it is a TYPE of calculation, still.

It's a raw data report, but it's incomplete. It only records transactions that will tag the account. So really, there had to be a disclaimer somewhere.

And kung alin ang nauna sa deposit and withdrawal is near-irrelevant. What should matter is the total difference. Which is impossible to accurately calculate dahil nga incomplete.

[ututina]

it might matter when cross checking with other transactions made on the same day.

he can't claim transfer of money/funds from one bank to another when both were withdrawals. if corona WAS styooopid enough to have made ALL WITHDRAWAL transactions consecutively on different banks at similar times then alam na.

and if the consecutive withdrawals has GOTTEN bigger and bigger than the initial... whatelse is the conclusion?

[despisePappus]

one thing i know for sure. The AMLC report is a raw data report and if done correctly, information and conclusions can be extracted from it.

Morales's tabulation maybe MISLEADING but not necessarily outright ERRONEOUS. it is a TYPE of calculation.

You said it yourself, it is MISLEADING.

It is a grave offense from a retired SC justice like herself.

It is good though that she said that the report is UNVERIFIED and UNAUTHENTICATED.

We don't know now if the computation was done with MALICE. IT MISREPRESENTS the actual data.