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  1. #201
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    Syempre, hindi ako sang-ayon sa ganyang mentalidad ng tao? SAME SEX MARRIAGE?

    ginawa ng Diyos ang babae para umibig sa lalaki, ang lalaki naman umibig sa babae.
    Ang pangit tingnan dalawang magkapareho ng kasarian maglalampungan.
    Tapos sasabihin ng mga tinamaan dyan, discrimination daw. Aba syempre, hindi naman talaga tama ang same sex marriage. That's against the will of God.

    Legal definition of marriage (FAMILY CODE): Article 1. Marriage is a special contract of permanent union between a man and a woman entered into in accordance with law for the establishment of conjugal and family life. It is the foundation of the family and an inviolable social institution whose nature, consequences, and incidents are governed by law and not subject to stipulation, except that marriage settlements may fix the property relations during the marriage within the limits provided by this Code. (52a)



    What are the elements of that biblical definition of marriage?

    1. Leave. First of all, according to the Bible, a man is to leave his father and mother. We can expand on that principle also by saying that a man should leave past relationships behind (if those are relationships that would damage the marriage). Then we can indirectly expand on the idea even further, and say that we should leave any "baggage" behind too. In order to get rid of the "baggage," we may have to learn to forgive others and even to forgive ourselves.

    2. Cleave. Second of all, according to the Bible, a man is to "cleave" unto his wife. By implication, the wife is also to cleave unto her husband. One connotative definition of "cleaving" is "to stick like glue." The couple is to have a commitment to stick to each other even when life gets hard.

    3. Become One Flesh. Third, according to the Bible, the two parties in the marriage are to "become one flesh." This is a statement describing the physical intimacy that is required for a good marriage.

    (The leaving, cleaving, and becoming one flesh all refer to the union between a man and a woman in the Bible.)

    4. Legal Significance. The biblical view of marriage carries with it the idea of legal significance. Therefore, marriages are to done according to the laws of the community in which the couple resides--so long as those laws do not contradict the Bible otherwise.

    Besides the four elements just mentioned, there is one more at which we should look when dealing with the question "What does the Bible say?" in regard to Christian marriage.

    5. Lasting Commitment. The biblical definition of marriage carries with it the idea of lasting commitment. That is why many Christian marriage ceremonies have the phrase, "so long as we both shall live," or "till death do us part," or some similar wording, included in them.


    marriage: between husband and wife only NOT between husband and husban/ wife between wife.

    Iba na talaga mga tao ngayon, iba na andar ng pag-iisip. Lahat na lang gusto.

  2. #202
    Is it okay for husband, wife, and wife's maid in a marriage?

    Can you please cite an example of a biblical marriage that you are referring to?

  3. #203
    Jessica Sanchez sang the US national anthem. So very American, but of course.

  4. #204
    Pacquiao lost!

    God has some explaining to do.

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Pacquiao lost!

    God has some explaining to do.
    Haha.. si arum talaga. It's not even close.

  6. #206
    Let's forget Jessica Sanchez, who sang the Star Spangled Banner. Online protests for Pacquiao... 3... 2... 1.

  7. #207
    I'm not in favor of same-sex marriage, homosexuality (modern family), feminism, multiculturalism (basically, it's ethnic cleansing), race-mixing ("once you go black you won't go back"). They're all J***** agenda meant to subvert their host country. The founder/leader of the late 60s feminism was a J**.

    I was surprised to find out Hitchens and Sam Harris are also J*****. Is atheism also one of their agendas?

    Don't fall for their tactics. They just want to subvert society.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by exist View Post
    I'm not in favor of same-sex marriage, homosexuality (modern family), feminism, multiculturalism (basically, it's ethnic cleansing), race-mixing ("once you go black you won't go back"). They're all J***** agenda meant to subvert their host country. The founder/leader of the late 60s feminism was a J**.

    I was surprised to find out Hitchens and Sam Harris are also J*****. Is atheism also one of their agendas?

    Don't fall for their tactics. They just want to subvert society.
    not sure if troll

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    Bradley is already prepared to enter the ring, but Pacquiao has not reached his dressing room yet. He is late!
    nag pray-over pa

  10. #210
    wow talagang binasa ko lahat. di ko na alam kung ano na dapat ko isipin hehe.. magagaling ang mga kalahok sa debateng ito.

  11. #211
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_are_..._vows_in_Bible

    Above link shows a person who asked online where are these marriage vows based on biblically. A knowledgeable respondent said that it is taken from the the first chapter of Ruth, verses 16-17.

    Here are the beautiful words of the Bible which became the basis of most biblically-based marriage vows:

    "Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the Lord deal with me, be it ever so severely, if even death separates you and me.”

    Beautiful, isn't it? But the shocking fact is that it is not a traditional wedding. It is Ruth promising her mother-in-law Noemi that they would be together (Ruth's husband died, so Ruth and Noemi were together). Of course, conservative Christians would vehemently argue that it is an innocent vow. But more progressive reading of the Ruth story, even among progressive Christian groups, now will admit that this was a same-sex relationship. We have finally captured a wedding vow in the Bible and it is not even straight!

  12. #212
    Sex between same sex = not good

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by yaridude View Post
    Sex between same sex = not good
    Not for you. AND you should not do it nor be forced to do it.

    But why are you against it for others who want it? Is is because your God does not like it too?
    Last edited by Ateo; Jun 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaridude View Post
    Sex between same sex = not good
    Why? Kung nag eenjoy sila eh bakit ba?

  15. #215
    My God? I don't know His opinion about this topic since He's ever silent...

    It's just a personal opinion. Yup you are correct that same sex intimate activities are not for me and I'm not forcing people to ride the bandwagon with me...

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by tonton View Post
    Why? Kung nag eenjoy sila eh bakit ba?
    Kaniya kaniyang trip lang iyan. Walang basagan ng trip ika nga.

    Personal na opinyon lang sir nothing more nothing less...

  17. #217
    Me, I am not personally in favor.

  18. #218
    cge na, cige na!!! para merry merry ang lahat.


    let them marry but disallow annulment and divorce of gay marraiges.
    they should live and die by their own fetishness .... decision

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by gotta lick it View Post
    cge na, cige na!!! para merry merry ang lahat.


    let them marry but disallow annulment and divorce of gay marraiges.
    they should live and die by their own fetishness .... decision
    why so?

    too short

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ateo View Post
    It is must be bewildering and uncomfortable to be conservative and intolerant nowadays. For one, here is a US president who support gays to marry with gays. Then a Philippine Supreme Court authorizing a gay political party para magladlad. Then a global mega entertainer comes to the Philippines and claims that she is "born to be that way". Then militant groups and rights advocate eager to defend the rights of gays. Then, the Miss Universe pageant allowing a male transgender to join the pageant. Then influential cities/states like New York proudly passing a law legalizing same-sex marriage. And then atheist groups successfully banning prayers in schools while allowing gay organizations to organize in schools. And finally the United Nations declaring that while blasphemy is a human right, sexual preference is a human right too.

    Omigosh! What can a poor bigot do these days?
    Nothing, they will just continue snapping away and become extinct like the dinosaurs.

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