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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by effem View Post
    Reading the verse ng sodom, clearly rape and being inhospitable ang sin nila. Sexual immorality means RAPE. Had the angels been women, no one will say na heterosexuality is a sin. The men of sodom wanted to rape the angels. Pwed pa ngang beasteality kasi hindi naman real human yung mga angels. Simple and true explanation.

    Fundie defeated.

    now the next question para ikaloka mo pa: Anong stand ng bible sa mga hermaphrodites, straight to hell ba sila?
    lols kung magpapalusot lang eh ala lawyer style para lang magawang excuse sa ginagawa niya.

    as if angels ang nakikita ng mga lalaking yun sa mga angels na nag anyong lalaki engots.

    They came disguised as men...
    ang purpose niyan is they wanted to see for themselves the sin of that city kasi if di sila nag disguise as men but showed themselves in true form as angels eh di ora-mismo humingi na ng tawad ang mga baklang yan and that defeats the purpose. just like the end days, kaya nga di gusto ni lord na may makakaalam kung kelan katapusan or else saka lang magrerepent ang buong humanity when the end day will come.
    pakasarap kayo sa kasalanan tapos ngayong katapusan na ng mundo hihingi kayo ng tawad duhhhh ano kayo sinisuwerte? haha

    Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
    klarong-klaro yan, men ang nakalagay. tapos ikaw sasabihin mong they wanted to rape the angels, meaning sa paningin ng mga baklang mga yun eh anghel ang nakikita ng mga mata nila. lokongpalusot.
    lalaki ang nakikita ng mga mata nila, inofferan sila ng mga birheng babae ayaw nila!
    nagustuhan nila ang mga lalaking yun kasi bago sa lugar nila kasi nagsawa na sila sa mga lalaki sa lugar nila.

    kung angels ang nakikita ng mga mata nila as if pagnanasahan pa nila mga yun, luluhod na ang mga yun kasi alam nila divine wrath aabot sa kanila kasi alam nila kasalanan ng ginagawa nila sinabihan na sila ni Lord niyan matagal na through his prophets.

    kaya huwag na huwag kang magpapalusot by trying to wiggle your way out of what was already obvious.
    kahit sa physical purpose pa lang ng wetpak, pang labas ng ebs lang yan at cleary wasn't designed for the ets.
    hindi kailanman ginawa ang lalaki para sa kapwa lalaki

    the sin here is not homosexuality but MEN HAVING SEX WITH MEN and WOMEN HAVING SEX WITH WOMEN and ORGIES and BESTIALITY ; the sin is SEX THAT WASN'T IN GOD'S PLAN WHICH WAS SHOULD ONLY BE BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN.

    kaya wala akong problema sa mga bakla lalo na yung marunong lumugar, hindi mga pasaway maiingay skandaloso in public the same thing goes for straight men and women.
    pero yung sexual acts niyo men on men or women on women, wala na akong magagawa diyan in denial lang magsasabi na di kasalanan yan kaya sa diyos na kayo managot.

    btw, baka kasi may humirit how about anal pag babae at lalaki ; for me as long as pumayag yung babae at kasal ang dalawa along these lines yung verse na yun anything they do in their wedding bed is acceptable sa mata ng diyos basta again within the rules na silang dalawa lang hence no orgies and no bestiality.

  2. #102
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    Shocker: A Filipino Journalist is the Reason?

    Well I guess "Only a Filipino can pull down a Filipino."

    We are shocked that this journalist is a Filipino. Granville Ampong is full of hot-air.

    Congratulations, Granville Ampong, you are now trending, while Pacman is now falling.

  3. #103
    Manny is a good boxer

    But he sucks big time in politics and human rights

    Grabe naman sya patayin lahat ng Gays? Ehhh siguro mas mabuti kung mga taong katulad nya mawala sa mundo

  4. #104
    PacMan should have learned from Donald Trump and the Miss Universe Pageant.






    you will lose a lot of support if one goes up against the GAY community

  5. #105
    Again, just be fair, Pacquiao didn't actually quote Leviticus 20:13

    http://www.examiner.com/article/bias...e-sex-marriage

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    http://www.examiner.com/article/bias...e-sex-marriage

    Apparently this Filipino writer is against Pacman. The clueless Pacman, who is very hospitable by nature (to a fault) agreed to an interview based on a third party request.

    Join the many Filipino-Americans who are now pounding this, Granville Ampong in the Facebook comments.

    Pacman must sue this lowlife.

    Quote Originally Posted by kuroihikari View Post
    Again, just be fair, Pacquiao didn't actually quote Leviticus 20:13

    http://www.examiner.com/article/bias...e-sex-marriage
    Naawa kami kay Pacman, kahit midnight na, my friends are all awake discussing this thing. Simply tragic.

  7. #107
    I don't think Manny is well versed in the bible. Siguro bago nagismula ang interview binasahan at pinangaralan siya tungkol sa masasabi ng bible sa homosexuality. It is like putting words in his mouth. This kind of trick by some media is not uncommon. Kaya sa actual interview inulit ni MP ang narinig niya.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by kuroihikari View Post
    I'm sorry, I should've said it was other's opinions, not mine.

    Oh, wait. I actually did.

    My point was, don't use free speech as an excuse to shut someone else up.



    Akala ko ba hindi sinabi ni Pacquiao yan?

    "Love one another as I have loved you..."... Except when they're different of course and you can dig up a Bible verse against them from the same era when God supposedly condoned genocides. Then you can wish death upon them.

    I'm against gay marriage myself, but not for religious reasons. And I certainly am against gay people being put to death just because they're gay. If it's indeed "unnatural" and disadvantageous to humanity's future, natural selection will take care of it on its own.
    I don't know kung sinabi ni pakyaw yan o hindi ang akin lang is yung stand niya sa issue and using the bible.
    "Love one another as I have loved you..." exactly using the bible verse you warned the gay people about the consequence of their actions and that shows you care for them wlang paligoy ligoy straight to the point..its not wishing a death to them because that will happened to them if they will not obey god's order binasa mo lang kautusan..nowhere in the bible po sinabi na gay people will be put to death kundi those who practice sexual relationship to same sex po ang bluntly winarningan na kamatayan ang kahahantungan nila..genocide is too far to compare po dito..wonder why God orders to Esrael to wipe-out whole tribes when conquering the land of promise? because po those tribes practice a very immoral way of life by his standard and will infect Israel if its people are left to mingle with its chosen ones..purity is what he wants his morality standard is so high but if you succeed to obey it, an everlasting life is the price that no one in earth can give.

  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccallister View Post
    I don't think Manny is well versed in the bible. Siguro bago nagismula ang interview binasahan at pinangaralan siya tungkol sa masasabi ng bible sa homosexuality. It is like putting words in his mouth. This kind of trick by some media is not uncommon. Kaya sa actual interview inulit ni MP ang narinig niya.
    The intervier clarified that Pacman did not say such a thing, it was artistic license.

    Read here: http://www.examiner.com/article/bias...e-sex-marriage

  10. #110
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    Lahat naman tayo nagkakasala, pero ang di ko lang maintindihan sa mga bakla ay kung bakit hindi nila matanggap na kasalanan yung pakikipagtalik sa kapwa nila lalake.

    Hindi si Pacquiao ang nagsabi na "They are to be put to death", kundi ang diyos mismo. Bakit si Pacquiao ang tina-target nila?


    IMO, dito mate-test ang faith ni Manny. Kung mawawala lahat ng endorsements nya, masisira ang career nya, dito natin makikita kung gaano ba katatag ang pananampalataya niya. Gaya ba ng kay Job o gaya ng karamihan sa'tin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluecross123 View Post
    lols kung magpapalusot lang eh ala lawyer style para lang magawang excuse sa ginagawa niya.

    as if angels ang nakikita ng mga lalaking yun sa mga angels na nag anyong lalaki engots.

    They came disguised as men...
    ang purpose niyan is they wanted to see for themselves the sin of that city kasi if di sila nag disguise as men but showed themselves in true form as angels eh di ora-mismo humingi na ng tawad ang mga baklang yan and that defeats the purpose. just like the end days, kaya nga di gusto ni lord na may makakaalam kung kelan katapusan or else saka lang magrerepent ang buong humanity when the end day will come.
    pakasarap kayo sa kasalanan tapos ngayong katapusan na ng mundo hihingi kayo ng tawad duhhhh ano kayo sinisuwerte? haha

    Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
    klarong-klaro yan, men ang nakalagay. tapos ikaw sasabihin mong they wanted to rape the angels, meaning sa paningin ng mga baklang mga yun eh anghel ang nakikita ng mga mata nila. lokongpalusot.
    lalaki ang nakikita ng mga mata nila, inofferan sila ng mga birheng babae ayaw nila!
    nagustuhan nila ang mga lalaking yun kasi bago sa lugar nila kasi nagsawa na sila sa mga lalaki sa lugar nila.

    kung angels ang nakikita ng mga mata nila as if pagnanasahan pa nila mga yun, luluhod na ang mga yun kasi alam nila divine wrath aabot sa kanila kasi alam nila kasalanan ng ginagawa nila sinabihan na sila ni Lord niyan matagal na through his prophets.

    kaya huwag na huwag kang magpapalusot by trying to wiggle your way out of what was already obvious.
    kahit sa physical purpose pa lang ng wetpak, pang labas ng ebs lang yan at cleary wasn't designed for the ets.
    hindi kailanman ginawa ang lalaki para sa kapwa lalaki

    the sin here is not homosexuality but MEN HAVING SEX WITH MEN and WOMEN HAVING SEX WITH WOMEN and ORGIES and BESTIALITY ; the sin is SEX THAT WASN'T IN GOD'S PLAN WHICH WAS SHOULD ONLY BE BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN.

    kaya wala akong problema sa mga bakla lalo na yung marunong lumugar, hindi mga pasaway maiingay skandaloso in public the same thing goes for straight men and women.
    pero yung sexual acts niyo men on men or women on women, wala na akong magagawa diyan in denial lang magsasabi na di kasalanan yan kaya sa diyos na kayo managot.

    btw, baka kasi may humirit how about anal pag babae at lalaki ; for me as long as pumayag yung babae at kasal ang dalawa along these lines yung verse na yun anything they do in their wedding bed is acceptable sa mata ng diyos basta again within the rules na silang dalawa lang hence no orgies and no bestiality.
    +100000000

  12. #112
    Pacquiao is a public figure, and anything he says is newsworthy. As such, he really needs to be more aware, especially of those who would use him to further their own ends. While this episode does not paint him in a good light, it's a fault of ignorance rather than prejudice.

    Granville Ampong on the other hand...As you sow, so shall you reap (Galatians VI).

  13. #113
    Fuk-y-aw should cut the cr@p and fight GayWeather.

  14. #114
    This is why I liked Pacman better when he was boozing, gambling, and womanizing. At least he didn't have to deal with all this bollocks. This whole "religious" thing feels like a front, an act given to him by his advisors.

  15. #115
    http://now.msn.com/now-plus/0516-pac...iage-mall.aspx

    Fu(k man was banned from a Los Angeles shopping mall.

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    Pacquiao has now released a statement saying, "I didn’t say that, that’s a lie ... I didn’t know that quote from Leviticus because I haven’t read the Book of Leviticus yet."

    He continues, "I’m not against gay people ... I have a relative who is also gay. We can’t help it if they were born that way."

    Still, Manny says he's AGAINST same-sex marriage -- "What I’m critical off [sic] are actions that violate the word of God. I only gave out my opinion that same sex marriage is against the law of God.

    He mentioned the "Law of God".
    Someone give him a mirror, yung full body pls.


    let's wait kapag nabasa na niya ang Leviticus.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by feifeikokland View Post
    Manny is a good boxer

    But he sucks big time in politics and human rights

    Grabe naman sya patayin lahat ng Gays? Ehhh siguro mas mabuti kung mga taong katulad nya mawala sa mundo
    mas marami naman naitulong si pacman kesa dyan sa mga gays na nagkakalat ng aids.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by mccallister View Post
    it won't be long from now, sigurado ako mag-aapologize siya niyan sa sinabi niya... but still masisira ang kanyang pangalan beyond repair
    Finally, people who ENVY pacquio got a way to TEAR him down. People hate him. But others LOVE him more than Jose Rizal. Case in point: http://www.dailyrandomsites.com/mann...an-jose-rizal/

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by andresbonifacio2 View Post
    The intervier clarified that Pacman did not say such a thing, it was artistic license.

    Read here: http://www.examiner.com/article/bias...e-sex-marriage
    This is what he wrote:

    Engaging a radical shift as manifested by his insights shared during Bible studies which lasted more than one hour, around 10:00 p.m., with a song and his substantive prayer, Pacquiao counsels people to "just believe" what the Scripture says.

    Pacquiao's directive for Obama calls societies to fear God and not to promote sin, inclusive of same-sex marriage and cohabitation, notwithstanding what Leviticus 20:13 has been pointing all along: “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
    ...

    Pacquiao continues: "God only expects man and woman to be together and to be legally married, only if they so are in love with each other."

    "It should not be of the same sex so as to adulterate the altar of matrimony, like in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah of Old."
    He wrote it as if Pacquiao was quoting leviticus himself.

    So its either Pastor Pacquiao did quote Leviticus and now Ampong was made to deny it, OR its just bad writing.

    Honestly, i wont be surprised if indeed it was the boxer who quoted the verses, being a new fundie add to that a Born Again Pastor as bible teachers, hindi impossible. Sa kanila mo maririnig yang "bible as manual or blue print for life" "relationship with god" "its not a religion, its a relationship". Pati yun casual conversation bigla biglang sisingitan ng bible verses, ganyan na rin si Pacquiao ngayon according to reporters... typical sa kanila yan. Kaya di ako magtataka kung talagang sya nagquote nun Leviticus.

    Isa daw sa pastor nya eh si Dennis Roldan, saw them in the news together, who is the suspected mastermind in an ongoing kidnapping case, yun lima nyang co-accused eh nakakulong but he is out on bail. So just imagine. Nagtuturo na yan sa iba as if nakapag-aral sila ng hermeneutics, textual criticism etc.

    Nakakapagtaka lang wala atang reaction from devout christians, di ata sila nagulat na yun bible which they believe is inspired and the word of god would say such a thing. Death to Gays! dun din nila natutunan yun love thy neighbor[so pag bakla pala yun kapitbahay mo, eh patayin mo?!?] yun iba pa nga ang akala eh sa bible nagmula ang golden rule: Do not do unto others... so yun pala di kasama sa "others" yun gays.

    Last edited by marcus_hunt; May 17, 2012 at 08:34 AM.

  20. #120
    Why is the gay community fuming mad against Pacman when he's not even an American and his opinion wouldn't really matter anyway. I thought Americans are far more educated than Filipinos or so they say.

    Americans loves to fiddle with others business just like what they're doing in the Far East but yet they consider their soldiers hero when they shouldn't be there in the first place. Now a Filipino who just gave an opinion about his stand on same sex marriage in America and everyone cries foul and worse he gets even more lambasted for quoting a bible where majority of the society has gotten allergic to any religion and Kardashians, Jersey Shore and any dumb down reality tv show are the ones they looked up to.

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