2012 Governor's Cup

[Loofee]

If Rain or Shine wins its last game against Talk n ' Text,they have one foot in the Finals. With the carry-over format of the Governor's Cup, the Elastopainters needs to win just 2 of 5 games in the semis and they'll still land one of the 2 Finals slots.

[sydrified]

^ it will also put TNT on the verge of ouster. this week should be fun.

[Jay P. Mercado]

If Rain or Shine wins its last game against Talk n ' Text,they have one foot in the Finals. With the carry-over format of the Governor's Cup, the Elastopainters needs to win just 2 of 5 games in the semis and they'll still land one of the 2 Finals slots.

Perhaps, it can help if we dissect the remaining games of each team:

ROS (7-1) - vs. TNT
B-Meg (5-2) - vs. TNT and Powerade
TNT (4-3) - vs. B-Meg and ROS
BGK (4-4) - vs. Barako
Powerade (4-4) - vs. B-Meg
Petron (4-4) - vs. Air 21
Meralco (4-4) - vs. Barako
Barako (3-4) - vs. BGK and Meralco
Air 21 (2-5) - vs. Alaska and Petron
Alaska (1-7) - vs. Air 21

Extremely important game tomorrow night between the Llamados the Tropang Texters. B-Meg would want to bury TNT with the hope of eliminating what may perhaps be their greatest threat to a second consecutive title. TNT, on the other hand, can tie B-Meg for second place at 5-3 with a win.

And yes, Yoonjay may actually be correct to predict that 10 wins would be safe enough to earn a tie for a Finals seat, probably against a team that can win 4 out of the 5 semifinals game to earn the incentive. 11 wins though may be more than enough to catapult the team to a guaranteed Finals berth.

If this happens, this would be historic for the E-Painters. I'm actually excited about their prospects as ROS can prove there's life in the PBA after SMC and MPIC. Similarly, I like Jameel Cornley's game - he reminds me of Añejo's Jamie Waller back in 1987 when he went up against the likes of David Thirdkill of Tanduay, Michael Young of Great Taste and Norman Black of San Miguel. Brawny, solidly built, with a knack for scoring both inside and outside, Cornley is a throwback of what imports used to be back in the 80's and early 90's.

[mememon]

^ it will also put TNT on the verge of ouster. this week should be fun.

balat sibuyas mr. blogger?

a win in their next assignment will put them on edge against PBB, BGK , MERALCO and PT

[peanutbuttah]

kailan po kaya start ng finals?

[James Ty III]

Perhaps, it can help if we dissect the remaining games of each team:

ROS (7-1) - vs. TNT
B-Meg (5-2) - vs. TNT and Powerade
TNT (4-3) - vs. B-Meg and ROS
BGK (4-4) - vs. Barako
Powerade (4-4) - vs. B-Meg
Petron (4-4) - vs. Air 21
Meralco (4-4) - vs. Barako
Barako (3-4) - vs. BGK and Meralco
Air 21 (2-5) - vs. Alaska and Petron
Alaska (1-7) - vs. Air 21

Extremely important game tomorrow night between the Llamados the Tropang Texters. B-Meg would want to bury TNT with the hope of eliminating what may perhaps be their greatest threat to a second consecutive title. TNT, on the other hand, can tie B-Meg for second place at 5-3 with a win.

And yes, Yoonjay may actually be correct to predict that 10 wins would be safe enough to earn a tie for a Finals seat, probably against a team that can win 4 out of the 5 semifinals game to earn the incentive. 11 wins though may be more than enough to catapult the team to a guaranteed Finals berth.

If this happens, this would be historic for the E-Painters. I'm actually excited about their prospects as ROS can prove there's life in the PBA after SMC and MPIC. Similarly, I like Jameel Cornley's game - he reminds me of Añejo's Jamie Waller back in 1987 when he went up against the likes of David Thirdkill of Tanduay, Michael Young of Great Taste and Norman Black of San Miguel. Brawny, solidly built, with a knack for scoring both inside and outside, Cornley is a throwback of what imports used to be back in the 80's and early 90's.

I want to see ROS win a title. That would be the culmination of Raymond Yu and Terry Que finally winning the big one in the PBA after 6 PBL titles.

[Riddikulus]

Kung magchampion ROS sampal sa muka ng mga SMC at MVP teams na kaya magchampion ng walang tulong ng sister sister teams. They built around norwood,they improved their roster by draft picks (Lee). Sana nga sila ang magchampion.

[Kaede Rukawa]

Sa MOA Arena daw ang Semis games sa July 7.

[James Ty III]

Sa MOA Arena daw ang Semis games sa July 7.

ONE semis game on July 7. But no sked yet.

[sydrified]

balat sibuyas mr. blogger?

a win in their next assignment will put them on edge against PBB, BGK , MERALCO and PT

not really. see? this conference was the best chance for all the teams to eliminate tnt early and they couldn't (natalo sila ng air21 of all teams). and with their big leads against petron (+15), barako bull (+20), and bmeg (+17), it's safe to say pasok na ang tnt sa next round.

giving tnt a fighting chance to reach their sixth straight finals appearance is not a farfetched idea.

[sydrified]

power rankings: mark caguioa averaged 27.0ppg in his last two games but gary david continues to lead the list.

http://www.sydrified.org/2012/06/pow...parks-fly.html

[mememon]

not really. see? this conference was the best chance for all the teams to eliminate tnt early and they couldn't (natalo sila ng air21 of all teams). and with their big leads against petron (+15), barako bull (+20), and bmeg (+17), it's safe to say pasok na ang tnt sa next round.

giving tnt a fighting chance to reach their sixth straight finals appearance is not a farfetched idea.

dont give me a lecturing about this bla bla bla i know what i'm dealing with.

[Jay P. Mercado]

This is going to be a very interesting and crucal weekend for 8 out of the 10 PBA teams. The remaining three playdates will determine the placing and ultimately, find out who the Top 6 teams that'll enter the semifinal round.

ROS - has to treat their last elimination game against TNT as their first game of the semifinals. A win would give them 8 wins, and coupled by a B-Meg loss to Powerade on Saturday, would give the E-Painters a three-game advantage against the rest of the pack. That means that they would only need one win (out of five) in the semis to earn at least a tie for a Finals slot and two wins for a sure Finals berth. If they end up with a 7-2 card, they would need three wins to earn a tie and four for a guaranteed Finals berth.

2. TNT - The Tropang Texters would want to avoid any complications of going through the quotient to break a logjam at 5-4. They have control of their destiny, and a victory against ROS would equate to a second place finish. This would put them in a very good position to capture their 6th consecutive Finals appearance, the second best record in league history behind the 8 consecutive Finals appearances of Crispa, Toyota and Alaska.

3. B-Meg - similar to TNT, they need to pull off a win against the Tigers on Saturday to avoid quotient complications. Likewise, B-Meg wants to remain perched near the top of the standings to give them a good shot at a Finals berth. A 5-4 record would put them at least 2 games behind ROS and a one-round semifinals of 5 games per team may be too short to recover.

4. BGK - Two intangible factors going for the Gin Kings - Jaworski's retirement on July 08, fueling more motivation for Ginebra to be in the semifinals, and Mark Caguioa's possible final run for an MVP award. BGK is an odds-on favorite to beat Barako in their last game, but what worries fans is their inconsistency to close out games. Siot Tanquincen's heavy reliance on his veterans may also prove to be his own undoing as he needs to make BGK succeed this conference to keep his job.

5. Petron - Petron has the easiest opponent this weekend, going up against the hapless Air 21 team. I can't see the Blaze Boosters losing this game, and they'll definitely wind up with a 5-4 card, assuring them of a semis slot. What may be a source of concern with this team is the on and off games of their key players, Arwind Santos and Alex Cabagnot. Despite the return of Jay Washington from the fold, Petron is having difficulty winning because of the inconsistency of Santos and Cabagnot. Does this have anything to do with Rajko Toroman's shadow hovering over the shoulders of Ato Agustin? Regardless, Petron has to find immediate solutions in their effort to defend the Governor's Cup they won against TNT last season.

6. Meralco - another team that's peaking at the right time - reminds me of how they performed last conference with Earl Barron as reinforcement. They have Barako as their last opponent and chances are, with the way Mario West is playing, they will beat the Energy Coffee Masters and enter the semis. I don't see them going further though, as they'll find the competition much more difficult to crack come playoffs.

7. Powerade - Saturday's game would be crucial, especially for Gary David. Will David torment the Llamados once more as he has done so in the AFC? David needs this win to have better chances to win the MVP award this season. If the Tigers lose and gets eliminated, David may have to kiss his MVP dreams goodbye. So much is at stake, especially for a team that's rumored to be disbanding this season. They would definitely want to end the season with a flourish - a semifinalsappearance is coveted, a repeat Finals seat will be rewarding.

8. Barako - a long break has allowed the team to recharge after a couple of back-to-back debilitating losses against ROS and TNT. Now, they end up playing back-to-back games this weekend, first against a motivated BGK team and second, against a streaking Bolts. Will the veteran-laden Energy lineup find its fountain of youth once more and rekindle their chances of earning a semis slot? Chances are they won't, especially since it appears that their two remaining opponents have more to lose than them. In terms of motivation, Barako may not be able to approximate their opponents that will lead them to possible victories.

[sydrified]

dont give me a lecturing about this bla bla bla i know what i'm dealing with.

whaahhaat? why would i lecture you? i'm just saying that teams should prepare for the repercussions of not ousting TNT.

now who's balat sibuyas now?

touchy agbayani...

anyway enough of this blah blah blah. rain or shine will possibly use their last elims game against tnt as road test. ros blew hot in the philcup but turned cold in the comcup. while i think they need to rest paul lee for the semis, yeng guiao will have to think of a way to make his offensive gunners work sans PL.

in their two games, chan (last 2 games: 17.5ppg conf avg: 14.4), norwood (last 2 games: 15.5ppg conf avg: 9.6), and jervy (last 2 games: 10.0ppg conf avg: 9.5) have filled in nicely in lee's absence but a win against a perennial title hunter should make them serious contenders.

and with serious i mean - they are ready to face the league's big dogs to play in their first pba finals.

and ronjay buenafe should wake up from whatever hiatus he's in.

[african_herbzman]

go Petron!

ya man!

[seventy7eighty8]

This is going to be a very interesting and crucal weekend for 8 out of the 10 PBA teams. The remaining three playdates will determine the placing and ultimately, find out who the Top 6 teams that'll enter the semifinal round.

ROS - has to treat their last elimination game against TNT as their first game of the semifinals. A win would give them 8 wins, and coupled by a B-Meg loss to Powerade on Saturday, would give the E-Painters a three-game advantage against the rest of the pack. That means that they would only need one win (out of five) in the semis to earn at least a tie for a Finals slot and two wins for a sure Finals berth. If they end up with a 7-2 card, they would need three wins to earn a tie and four for a guaranteed Finals berth.

2. TNT - The Tropang Texters would want to avoid any complications of going through the quotient to break a logjam at 5-4. They have control of their destiny, and a victory against ROS would equate to a second place finish. This would put them in a very good position to capture their 6th consecutive Finals appearance, the second best record in league history behind the 8 consecutive Finals appearances of Crispa, Toyota and Alaska.

3. B-Meg - similar to TNT, they need to pull off a win against the Tigers on Saturday to avoid quotient complications. Likewise, B-Meg wants to remain perched near the top of the standings to give them a good shot at a Finals berth. A 5-4 record would put them at least 2 games behind ROS and a one-round semifinals of 5 games per team may be too short to recover.

4. BGK - Two intangible factors going for the Gin Kings - Jaworski's retirement on July 08, fueling more motivation for Ginebra to be in the semifinals, and Mark Caguioa's possible final run for an MVP award. BGK is an odds-on favorite to beat Barako in their last game, but what worries fans is their inconsistency to close out games. Siot Tanquincen's heavy reliance on his veterans may also prove to be his own undoing as he needs to make BGK succeed this conference to keep his job.

5. Petron - Petron has the easiest opponent this weekend, going up against the hapless Air 21 team. I can't see the Blaze Boosters losing this game, and they'll definitely wind up with a 5-4 card, assuring them of a semis slot. What may be a source of concern with this team is the on and off games of their key players, Arwind Santos and Alex Cabagnot. Despite the return of Jay Washington from the fold, Petron is having difficulty winning because of the inconsistency of Santos and Cabagnot. Does this have anything to do with Rajko Toroman's shadow hovering over the shoulders of Ato Agustin? Regardless, Petron has to find immediate solutions in their effort to defend the Governor's Cup they won against TNT last season.

6. Meralco - another team that's peaking at the right time - reminds me of how they performed last conference with Earl Barron as reinforcement. They have Barako as their last opponent and chances are, with the way Mario West is playing, they will beat the Energy Coffee Masters and enter the semis. I don't see them going further though, as they'll find the competition much more difficult to crack come playoffs.

7. Powerade - Saturday's game would be crucial, especially for Gary David. Will David torment the Llamados once more as he has done so in the AFC? David needs this win to have better chances to win the MVP award this season. If the Tigers lose and gets eliminated, David may have to kiss his MVP dreams goodbye. So much is at stake, especially for a team that's rumored to be disbanding this season. They would definitely want to end the season with a flourish - a semifinalsappearance is coveted, a repeat Finals seat will be rewarding.

8. Barako - a long break has allowed the team to recharge after a couple of back-to-back debilitating losses against ROS and TNT. Now, they end up playing back-to-back games this weekend, first against a motivated BGK team and second, against a streaking Bolts. Will the veteran-laden Energy lineup find its fountain of youth once more and rekindle their chances of earning a semis slot? Chances are they won't, especially since it appears that their two remaining opponents have more to lose than them. In terms of motivation, Barako may not be able to approximate their opponents that will lead them to possible victories.

kabadtrip na inconsistencies yan! pero sana. sana. chamba wins lang pantapat dyan!

[slynxpac]

Only the Top 6 teams after the eliminations will advance to the semifinals, which will be a single round-robin affair, like the elims, and with their win-loss records carried over.

Rain or Shine, Talk ‘N Text, Barangay Ginebra, Petron Blaze and B-Meg – following its 108-98 overtime win over Powerade in Legazpi City Saturday -- are already assured of place in the semifinals, regardless of Sunday’s result of the RoS-TNT game.

Only one semis berth is up for grabs and fighting it out for those are Meralco, Powerade and Barako Bull.

Alaska and Air21 are already out of the semis picture with their 2-7 records.

The Bolts simply need to beat the Energy to complete the semis cast and shut the playoffs door on the latter and the Tigers. In this case, the semis will begin on Wednesday.

If Barako Bull wins over Meralco, a double playoff to decide the sixth and last semifinals will ensue.

In this scenario, the team with the highest PBA quotient gets a bye and the two others knock each other out on Tuesday. The winner faces the team with the best PBA quotient the following day and the semis start Friday in Antipolo.

If the Energy win against the Bolts Sunday, the scores will count in the computation for their PBA quotients. The Energy actually need to win by at least five points to earn a bye. Otherwise, it's the Bolts who will gain the privilege and leave Powerade and Barako Bull fight it out in the first knockout game.

In the three previous conferences with this same format, five wins usually turn out to be the magic number to advance to the next round after the end of the elims.

It has proven to be the same in this conference.

The table below of the four remaining scenarios of how the elims will possibly end should give everyone a clearer picture.

Shown below for easy reference purposes only are the point differentials of the three teams that are going to be tied for the last semis berth up for grabs. They are different from the PBA quotient system that is actually going to be used to break ties but very similar and are usually reliable.

The Top 2 teams after the semis will figure in the best-of-7 series for the championship.

The 4-of-5 incentive is in effect in the semis. Meaning, if a team wins 4 of its 5 games in the semis and fails to make it to the Top 2, it will figure in a playoff for a Finals berth against the No. 2 team.

[Jay P. Mercado]

[QUOTE]My fear(ful) forecast at the end of the eliminations:

ROS - 7-2
TNT - 6-3
B-Meg - 6-3
Petron - 5-4
BGK - 5-4
Meralco - 5-4
Powerade - 4-5
Barako - 3-6
Alaska - 2-7
Air 21 - 2-7
/QUOTE]

I posted this in the TNT thread a few days back. Will this hold true? If TNT and Meralco win tonight, then this will be the final standings of the eliminations of the Governor's Cup.

[Drahow ein Ente]

oh ayan. napagbigyan na kayo sa mga playoff games. kung sino man ang manalo sa 3 teams na ito, ubos na ang gasolina for the semis.

[Kaede Rukawa]

^ Carry over daw yung record sa playoff for 6th spot.