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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    "entered upon her". ano yun sinundot lang ang tenga?
    sophion para magtagumpay kayo ay hanap kayo ng katibayan na nakipag-sex ang propheta noong na-consumate ang kasal nila ni Aisa (ra) kasi malinaw din binanggit ang sexual intercourse

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    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    Iyan ang tunay na pikunin kasi nilagyan pa ng pangalan, yehey! napikon ko rin ang trolls na baboy
    uuuy... palusot
    may anxiety attack ka sa pangalan ko parang kryptonite naman ako syo...

    sabi na nga ba hindi mo kayang sagutin ang argumento ko... as i predicted you will retort to trolling


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    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    "entered upon her". ano yun sinundot lang ang tenga?
    HAHAHAHAHA.... tama!

    palusot lang sila, bro! pinipilit nila na dapat mayroong binangit na sexual intercourse (parang porn pala ang hadith)

    PERO

    nakalimutan ba or sinadya ba or sa kabobohan lang talaga nila na mayroong kasalan na nagaganap kaya consumated ang wikang ginamit... hindi tulad ng pahayag sa hadith na mayroong sexual intercourse ay dahil ito ay isang ordinaryong nagaganap lang sa buhay ng isang muslim....

    AHAHAHAY... trolling reply,crap reply, propaganda achu chu reply... silent defeat no reply will be expected from a Muslim baboy will be expected....

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    sophion para magtagumpay kayo ay hanap kayo ng katibayan na nakipag-sex ang propheta noong na-consumate ang kasal nila ni Aisa (ra) kasi malinaw din binanggit ang sexual intercourse
    di ka pa pinapanganak tanggap na ng maraming muslim na nakipagsex si mohammad kay aisha sa edad na 9. kaya tignan mo maraming muslim countries ipinaasawa na sa ganyang edad.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage#Middle_East


    what matters eh may natutunan kayo dito kahit papaano:

    * Hadith: "entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her)"

    * Dictionary: "to make (marital union) complete by sexual intercourse <consummate a marriage"

    * Historical Fact: "Saudi clerics have justified the marriage of girls as young as 9:

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    ^ di yan tatanggapin ni bani pogi dahil wiki ang source

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by xBigoteAtBalbasx View Post
    ^ di yan tatanggapin ni bani pogi dahil wiki ang source
    he works at saudi. i'm sure he can confirm it himself. otherwise marami pa akong sources.
    convenient lang kasi ang wiki.


    anyway ok na siguro mga katulad ni bani, kesa naman sa mga muslim na na-encounter ko na pilit jinajustify ang sex with a 9 year old.

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    Iba iba rin kasi ang kanilang interpretasyon ng kuran. Extremist muslim, moderate, whatever muslim all think that they are right and their actions are justified according to the teachings of muhamad pogi.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    (11) Narrated Said bin Jubair: I said to Ibn 'Umar, "If a man accuses his wife of illegal sexual intercourse (what is the judgment)?" He said, "Allah's Prophet separated the couple of Bani 'Ajlan (when the husband accused his wife for an illegal sexual intercourse). The Prophet said, 'Allah knows that one of you two IS a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused. He then again said, 'Allah knows that one of you two is a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused, whereupon he separated them by divorce." Aiyub (a sub-narrator) said: 'Amr bin Dinar said to me, "In the narration there is something which I do not see you mentioning, i.e. the husband said, "What about my money (Mahr)?' The Prophet said, "You are not entitled to take back money, for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her) and if you are a liar then you are less entitled to take it back. (Book #63, Hadith #261)

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    ayan malinaw. consummated is when you enter her daw.
    Ay! nagkakamali po kayo! ang sinabi po, "for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her)", ang sinabi po "AND" , kung ililiwat po sa salitang Pilipino ay "nakipagtalik AT sinakatuparan po ang kasal", nakuha po ninyo? halimbawa po "si Pedro ay nauhaw AT uminom AT kumain" hindi po nangangahulugan na ang nauhaw ay otomatikong uminom lalo na po kumain, nasasabayan po ba ninyo ako? naway mayroon po kayong natutunan sa inyong lngkod ano po?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    Ay! nagkakamali po kayo! ang sinabi po, "for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her)", ang sinabi po "AND" , kung ililiwat po sa salitang Pilipino ay "nakipagtalik AT sinakatuparan po ang kasal", nakuha po ninyo? halimbawa po "si Pedro ay nauhaw AT uminom AT kumain" hindi po nangangahulugan na ang nauhaw ay otomatikong uminom lalo na po kumain, nasasabayan po ba ninyo ako? naway mayroon po kayong natutunan sa inyong lngkod ano po?
    Mali!

    pinasok mo na sya at nasakatuparan ang iyong kasal sa kanya! ang tama... wrong grammar ka kaya malabo ang construction mo!

    ang ibig sabihin natutuldukan ang kasal once ang ulo pumasok sa butas... gets!
    Last edited by mylifeskucs; May 30, 2012 at 01:51 PM.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    di ka pa pinapanganak tanggap na ng maraming muslim na nakipagsex si mohammad kay aisha sa edad na 9. kaya tignan mo maraming muslim countries ipinaasawa na sa ganyang edad.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage#Middle_East


    what matters eh may natutunan kayo dito kahit papaano:

    * Hadith: "entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her)"

    * Dictionary: "to make (marital union) complete by sexual intercourse <consummate a marriage"

    * Historical Fact: "Saudi clerics have justified the marriage of girls as young as 9:
    Mali lang po kayo ng pagka-unawa sa nasabing hadith

    Iyong sinasabi mong saudi clerics ay walang silang pagbabawal na ikasal ang 9 years old ngunit wala po sigurong utos na makipagtalik sa wala pa sa puberty age, mayroon ba?

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    Mali lang po kayo ng pagka-unawa sa nasabing hadith

    Iyong sinasabi mong saudi clerics ay walang silang pagbabawal na ikasal ang 9 years old ngunit wala po sigurong utos na makipagtalik sa wala pa sa puberty age, mayroon ba?
    nabanggit lang saudi nagadapt na stance mo. puberty na ngayon ang basehan. die hard saudi fan ka talaga for better or worst
    so paano na ngayon? pabor ka na makipagsex sa 9 year old na niregla na?

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    nabanggit lang saudi nagadapt na stance mo. puberty na ngayon ang basehan. die hard saudi fan ka talaga for better or worst
    sympre sophion ano ka ba! die hard saudi boy yan, dito galing si Muhammad nya,ipaglalaban nya hangang kamatayan yan..pagmuslim pinoy ka my special treatment talga dito

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by sophion View Post
    nabanggit lang saudi nagadapt na stance mo. puberty na ngayon ang basehan. die hard saudi fan ka talaga for better or worst
    so paano na ngayon? pabor ka na makipagsex sa 9 year old na niregla na?
    sophion hindi ako saudi fan nagkataon lang na hindi naman po lahat ng saudi ay magkakapareho, mali po kayo diyan.

    ang tinatanong mo ba ay opinyon ko kung sa akin, hindi po....

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by extacy0690 View Post
    sympre sophion ano ka ba! die hard saudi boy yan, dito galing si Muhammad nya,ipaglalaban nya hangang kamatayan yan..pagmuslim pinoy ka my special treatment talga dito
    sigurado ka die hard fan ako, pero teka bakit nga ba nandito sa saudi kung sa tingin mo ay natatapakan ang paniniwala mo at katayuan mo, sino maysabi na mayroon special treatment sa muslim na pinoy

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by banimalek View Post
    ang tinatanong mo ba ay opinyon ko kung sa akin, hindi po....
    great! i respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    Ay! nagkakamali po kayo! ang sinabi po, "for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (and consummated your marriage with her)", ang sinabi po "AND" , kung ililiwat po sa salitang Pilipino ay "nakipagtalik AT sinakatuparan po ang kasal", nakuha po ninyo? halimbawa po "si Pedro ay nauhaw AT uminom AT kumain" hindi po nangangahulugan na ang nauhaw ay otomatikong uminom lalo na po kumain, nasasabayan po ba ninyo ako? naway mayroon po kayong natutunan sa inyong lngkod ano po?
    Oh mga kids, stay in school ha? Kung ayaw nyong matulad dito sa muslim na ito na sablay ang utak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylifeskucs View Post
    Mali!

    pinasok mo na sya at nasakatuparan ang iyong kasal sa kanya! ang tama... wrong grammar ka kaya malabo ang construction mo!

    ang ibig sabihin natutuldukan ang kasal once ang ulo pumasok sa butas... gets!
    Dinamay pa talaga nya si pedro eh noh?

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by xBigoteAtBalbasx View Post
    Oh mga kids, stay in school ha? Kung ayaw nyong matulad dito sa muslim na ito na sablay ang utak.
    ay nagkakamali po kayo, tumpak po ang aking tinuran, ang paggamit po ng salitang "at" ay pagpapakita po ng karagdagan ano po? halimbawa po "sina Tito, Vic AT Joey" ay pagpapakita po na iba po si Bossing kay Joey ano po? naway huwag po kayong malumbay sa inyong pagkapahiya, mayroon pa pong pagkakataon upang matuto ano po?

    (11) Narrated Said bin Jubair: I said to Ibn 'Umar, "If a man accuses his wife of illegal sexual intercourse (what is the judgment)?" He said, "Allah's Prophet separated the couple of Bani 'Ajlan (when the husband accused his wife for an illegal sexual intercourse). The Prophet said, 'Allah knows that one of you two IS a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused. He then again said, 'Allah knows that one of you two is a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused, whereupon he separated them by divorce." Aiyub (a sub-narrator) said: 'Amr bin Dinar said to me, "In the narration there is something which I do not see you mentioning, i.e. the husband said, "What about my money (Mahr)?' The Prophet said, "You are not entitled to take back money, for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (AND consummated your marriage with her) and if you are a liar then you are less entitled to take it back. (Book #63, Hadith #261)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    ay nagkakamali po kayo, tumpak po ang aking tinuran, ang paggamit po ng salitang "at" ay pagpapakita po ng karagdagan ano po? halimbawa po "sina Tito, Vic AT Joey" ay pagpapakita po na iba po si Bossing kay Joey ano po? naway huwag po kayong malumbay sa inyong pagkapahiya, mayroon pa pong pagkakataon upang matuto ano po?

    (11) Narrated Said bin Jubair: I said to Ibn 'Umar, "If a man accuses his wife of illegal sexual intercourse (what is the judgment)?" He said, "Allah's Prophet separated the couple of Bani 'Ajlan (when the husband accused his wife for an illegal sexual intercourse). The Prophet said, 'Allah knows that one of you two IS a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused. He then again said, 'Allah knows that one of you two is a liar; so will one of you repent?' But they refused, whereupon he separated them by divorce." Aiyub (a sub-narrator) said: 'Amr bin Dinar said to me, "In the narration there is something which I do not see you mentioning, i.e. the husband said, "What about my money (Mahr)?' The Prophet said, "You are not entitled to take back money, for if you told the truth you have already entered upon her (AND consummated your marriage with her) and if you are a liar then you are less entitled to take it back. (Book #63, Hadith #261)
    Hindi "AT" ang problema mo ineng

    Try again and goodluck

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    14 or older si Aisha nung kasal.

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