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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensamor View Post
    Ahmmmnn...sa pinanggalingan nila? Karamihan naman dyan may mga talagang tirahan kaso mas gusto magsumiksik sa Maynila.
    seriously, think about what you're saying. more than 500,000 squatter families, and most of them, first generation lang?
    madali palang umasenso mga squatter?

    Quote Originally Posted by bagiw.boi View Post
    corrections, to set the record straight:
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    so, ricky, where's the ROI on the Php 300 million spent in hosting this 4-day ADB meet?
    question is, what did they spend 300 million on? ROI can only be calculated after you know all of the various costs involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kensamor View Post
    Ahmmmnn...sa pinanggalingan nila? Karamihan naman dyan may mga talagang tirahan kaso mas gusto magsumiksik sa Maynila.
    Kaya nga sila umalis sa pinanggalingan nila dahil ginugutom sila roon tapos ibabalik mo sila roon ... nasaan ang common sense....

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    Iba talaga mag-isip ang mga nasa gobyerno.

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    sige takpan 'nyo lang ng tarps ang 11 million families who consider themselves poor. poverty rate is up from 45% to 55%.

    unti-unti na po natin nararamdaman ang CCT.

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    pagkaalis ng mga delegates, tatanggalin na rin ba yung mga tarp?

    or, hahayaan na lang dun hanggang sa mabulok at maging dagdag sa eye sore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Bahay_Kubo_ View Post
    gawin na lang permanent ang barricade na yan. pwede pang pagkakitaan by using it as a billboard.
    Pareho tayo ng naisip, sana huwag ng tanggalin para tuloy tuloy na hindi makita ang masamang tanawin na yan.

    Usually kasi, pagkatapos ng event kanya-kanya ng kahoy yung mga squatters sa nakatapal na yan. Pera ng TAX PAYERS ang ginamit dyan kaya para naman masulit ang ginastos, huwag nilang hayaaang nakawin lang ng hindoropotpot na squatters.

    It might be a band-aid solution pero pwede na rin kung forever naman na hindi mo na makikita yung mga SALOT NA SQUATTERS.

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    sana hindi na lang tanggalin para maganda sa mata at kung mabulok na e di palitan uli, makatipid pa ang gobyerno kaysa solusyunan ang kahirapan.

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    Yung documentary ni Howie Severino ngayon sa iWitness, tungkol naman sa pagtatakip ng Marcos govt sa mga bangkay sa trahedya sa construction ng Manila Film Center

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    Pagkatapos ng ADB meeting, wala na yang tarpaulin na yan. Kukunin yan ng mga squatters para pantakip sa dingding at bubong nila.

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    ok lang yang temporary solution since cleaning the shanties takes time. Wala na rin time ang govt na linisan yan kasi usually on a short notice ang activities na mga ganyan.

    Ang problema lang niyan since wala naman nagbabantay, baka nakawin lang ang mga yero at ipagbili sa junk shop or gawing bubong sa shanties nila

    sana ma-maintain pa rin nila at simulan na ang permanent solution sa pagpapaalis sa mga squatters living under the bridge, along the riverbanks, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istarbaks View Post
    [I]MANILA, Philippines (AP) — Delegates attending an international conference in the Philippines capital may not see what they came to discuss: abject poverty.

    A makeshift, temporary wall has been erected across a bridge on a road from the airport to downtown Manila that hides a sprawling slum along a garbage-strewn creek.

    Presidential spokesman Ricky Carandang defended the wall's installation, saying Thursday "any country will do a little fixing up before a guest comes."


    "We need to show our visitors that Metro Manila is orderly. We owe it to ourselves," said metropolital Manila chief Francis Tolentino.

    "I see nothing wrong with beautifying our surroundings. We are not trying to keep the poor out of the picture," he said.

    A hyprocrite and a liar, he's definitely well suited for the job as the government spokesman.

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    the subject of an editorial in OMAN TRIBUNE:

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    State of denial

    Hiding poverty and not eradicating it seems to be the priority of Philippines President Benigno Aquino. This indigestible truth is evident from the putting up of advertising hoardings to hide slums from about 4,300 delegates attending an Asian Development Bank meeting. A number of organisations, including rights groups, have condemned this execrable act that must also be termed shameless as it is an attempt to deny the existence of rampant poverty in the country and hence an insult to the poor.

    That poverty is widespread in the Philippines cannot be denied. A quantum jump in poverty was witnessed during the reign of the late Ferdinand Marcos, who was intent on enriching himself at the cost of the people. Since then poverty has only increased steadily under various governments for a variety of reasons. The result was that hundreds of thousands of Filipinos went abroad to work – in the Gulf countries, Taiwan and other nations in the region – resulting in a brain drain. Though the export of manpower checked poverty to some extent, it refused to go away since more and more people joined the queue of the poor, the result of a malaise caused by political and sociological turmoil that none of the governments from the late 1980s could prevent. An example is the rule of the late Corazon Aquino. Though her intentions were good, she was never stable enough to rule effectively due to an endless threat to her government from coups and rebellions. All the presidents afterwards rarely ruled without some kind of turbulence. There is the case of Joseph Estrada who was ousted by Gloria Arroyo. The hyper ambitious Arroyo in turn faced new problems. Besides chronic political instability and volatility, all the presidents had to contend with two insurgencies. The Moros as well as the communist New People’s Army have spearheaded enough violence that has killed thousands over the past few decades. Worse is the failure of successive administrations to end these insurgencies through negotiations. In fact, at times, the Moros and Manila have been close to accords during talks at Kuala Lumpur, mediated by the Malaysian government, but the attempts to achieve peace were stymied by elements with vested interests. Ending these insurgencies, especially the one by the Moros might have changed the face of the Philippines. Mindanao, the homeland of the Moros, which is rich in natural resources, would then have been exploited fully.

    Only a decisive occupant of Malacanang Palace can bring peace and prosperity to the Philippines. When aquino became president, after a period of turmoil and uncertainty under Arroyo, there were hopes among many Filipinos that things would change. That has not happened so far. And it seems that the Aquino may not be any better than many of his predecessors as he is beginning to sink into a state of denial about the true and pathetic state of affairs in the Philippines. Appalling, no doubt.

    Oman Tribune

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    Isa sa masamang side ng Pinoy Hospitality

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    Quote Originally Posted by my_2_cents View Post
    Like the Jews should not be allowed to live? SIEG HEIL?

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    Yeah, I agree our country needs a Hitler Jr.


    Quote Originally Posted by nikkilove View Post
    wag naman c.

    di ba pwedeng pakontiin na lang muna sila. I know its frustrating, lalo na pagpasok mo sa mga bahay na yan, lima hanggang walong mga bata ang nagsisiksikan sa maliit na mga bahay nila. grabe, so irresponsible.
    Hmn, so pano kaya sila pakokontiin?


    Quote Originally Posted by my_2_cents View Post
    Kaya nga sila umalis sa pinanggalingan nila dahil ginugutom sila roon tapos ibabalik mo sila roon ... nasaan ang common sense....

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    Gutom sila both ways. Pero mas mabubuhay sila sa pinanggalingan nila. Tamad lang kasi at ayaw magtanim at magbanat ng buto. Akala namumunga ng pera mga patay na puno dito sa Maynila at nagsipuntahan dito. Ayon, pagdating dito, wala rin pala at lumala lalo sitwasyon nila. Di nila akalain na kelangan pala nila magbanat lalo ng buto dito.

    Anu kaya gawan na rin ng visa ang Maynila? Makakapasok at makakapag-stay lamang within the Metro kapag may proof ka of employment at residence. Pag wala, tourist visa ka lang at pede ka ipa-deport uli sa pinanggalingan mong probinsya? ehehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_brain View Post
    Anu kaya gawan na rin ng visa ang Maynila? Makakapasok at makakapag-stay lamang within the Metro kapag may proof ka of employment at residence. Pag wala, tourist visa ka lang at pede ka ipa-deport uli sa pinanggalingan mong probinsya? ehehehe.

    Para namang sinabi mo pag mga squatters walang trabaho. Karamihan diyan may mga trabaho sa Maynila. Mas kumpleto pa nga gamit nila sa bahay (gadgets and appliances) kesa sa hinde squatters. So kahit gawan ng visa ang Manila, meron din sila so hinde effective

    Kuntento na kasi sila sa ganoong buhay kahit maliit na bahay basta may matirhan, kahit masikip ang daanan/eskinita or mahirap daanan, basta pwede madaanan ok na, kahit magulo ang lugar at maraming tao, ok lang sa kanila. Wala silang ambition na mapaganda ang lugar na tinitirhan nila kasi mas importante sa kanila may gadget na mabili para updated sila palagi

  16. #56
    Wall lang? Dapat bubungan din. Tapos yung buong bubong lagyan ng "WELCOME to MANILA" para pag landing pa lang kitang kita na ito sa aerial view

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_gwapo View Post
    Kuntento na kasi sila sa ganoong buhay kahit maliit na bahay basta may matirhan, kahit masikip ang daanan/eskinita or mahirap daanan, basta pwede madaanan ok na, kahit magulo ang lugar at maraming tao, ok lang sa kanila. Wala silang ambition na mapaganda ang lugar na tinitirhan nila kasi mas importante sa kanila may gadget na mabili para updated sila palagi
    I agree! Reminds me of my relatives sa father side ko. Despite of having good businesses in camanava, yung bahay nila nasa camanava din, madumi, mabaho. Though I would say, legally acquired yung mga bahay nila but I know they can afford living in a house sa mga good communities or subdivisions . Pero dahil sa malalalayo sila sa negosyo nila, they prefer na doon na din mag-tayo ng bahay.

    Pero sa probinsiya namin sa Quezon, mala-palasyo mga bahay nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_gwapo View Post
    Para namang sinabi mo pag mga squatters walang trabaho. Karamihan diyan may mga trabaho sa Maynila. Mas kumpleto pa nga gamit nila sa bahay (gadgets and appliances) kesa sa hinde squatters. So kahit gawan ng visa ang Manila, meron din sila so hinde effective
    Minention ko rin na dapat may proof din sila ng residence aside from being employed.... meaning may permanent or legal address din within the metro.

    And yung trabaho na maayos din, hindi pang-underground economy na trabaho tulad ng sidewalk vendor, pedicab driver, terminal barker, collector ng pusta sa ending, takatak boys, forger sa recto, etc.

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    Nasaan ba sina Vice President Jejomar Binay at Gawad Kalinga head Tony Meloto? Hindi ba't tungkulin at gawain nila ang magbigay ng mga pabahay sa mga iskwater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_tracer View Post
    sige takpan 'nyo lang ng tarps ang 11 million families who consider themselves poor. poverty rate is up from 45% to 55%.

    unti-unti na po natin nararamdaman ang CCT.
    huh? the CCT is supposed to reduce poverty? where the héll did you get that?

    when you criticize something, at the very least, have an idea of what it is. don't create targets that you could easily shoot down.

    Quote Originally Posted by c_brain View Post
    Yeah, I agree our country needs a Hitler Jr.

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    Anu kaya gawan na rin ng visa ang Maynila? Makakapasok at makakapag-stay lamang within the Metro kapag may proof ka of employment at residence. Pag wala, tourist visa ka lang at pede ka ipa-deport uli sa pinanggalingan mong probinsya? ehehehe.
    Quote Originally Posted by c_brain View Post
    Minention ko rin na dapat may proof din sila ng residence aside from being employed.... meaning may permanent or legal address din within the metro.

    And yung trabaho na maayos din, hindi pang-underground economy na trabaho tulad ng sidewalk vendor, pedicab driver, terminal barker, collector ng pusta sa ending, takatak boys, forger sa recto, etc.
    This is so very stupid. A resident visa system like in China? Opposing the free movement of labor? The complete opposite of what a free country should do?



    I mean, why put the same cráppy system shackling our OFW's inside the country? Why oh why? Do you want to have MORE poor people? Do you actually encourage discrimination between Filipinos?

    This is so very stupid.


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