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    Philippines asks US for radars, patrol boats and aircraft

    WASHINGTON—The Philippines said Wednesday it has asked the United States to supply its armed forces with patrol boats and aircraft as well as radar systems amid an escalating territorial dispute with China.

    Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario. AP
    Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said the hardware would help his country achieve a “minimum credible defense,” a phrase he used in unprecedented talks with senior US officials in Washington earlier this week.
    “We need to know what’s going on around us. That’s maritime domain awareness,” del Rosario said in answer to a question following a speech at The Heritage Foundation think tank.
    “And we also need to deter any additional incursions into our seas where we have sovereign rights,” the chief Philippine diplomat said, referring to its dispute with China in the South China Sea.
    “We are submitting a list of hardware that the US can help us out with. This would be in terms of patrol vessels, patrol aircraft, radar systems, coast watch stations,” del Rosario said.
    “We’re looking for assistance from other international partners who have also been very forthcoming,” he added.
    In his speech, del Rosario said the Philippines was strengthening its partnerships with Japan, Australia, South Korea and others in areas like maritime security, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief.
    While awaiting new hardware, he said it is important for the Philippines and its treaty ally the United States to continue to conduct military exercises “in a better way, in more locations, in a more frequent manner.”
    The two nations, which completed extensive war games earlier this month, are bound by a mutual defense treaty in which the United States has pledged to come to the aid of its weaker ally if it faces military aggression.
    “The US needs a stronger ally in the region who will be able to take on a bigger share of guaranteeing the stability of that region,” del Rosario said in his speech.
    “It is therefore in the strategic interest of the US to invest in the development of the Philippines’ defense and military capability,” he said.
    “For the Philippines, the tension in the West Philippines Sea are particularly challenging,” he said.
    The Philippines and China have been embroiled in a dispute over a shoal in the South China Sea, or West Philippines Sea, with both nations stationing vessels there for nearly three weeks to assert their sovereignty.
    The Philippines says Scarborough Shoal is its territory because it falls well within its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone, as recognized by international law.
    The Philippines has called for arbitration through the United Nations to end the dispute, but China has refused.

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    o ano? lakas nyong awayin ang USA lalo na during cory admin

    eh ano ngayon?

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    ^^ Palalayasin yung US bases hindi naman pala kaya na wala ang mga Kano. Hindi kasi inupgrade yung defense capability e. Oh ano ngayon.

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    lurker extraordinaire R3'91's Avatar
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    Why do we have to rely on the US for equipment such as patrol craft that we are more than capable to build on our own??

    I say we should be self reliant!! Nobody is going to help us when the sh!t hits the fan except ourselves!

    Probably the assistance we can request for is technology transfer for the more technical aspects of the craft, but otherwise I think we can build our own ships. My gas, we build commercial vessels, with the Koreans here so why not navy vessels?

    The Indonesians are doing it, we should be doing it as well.

    Self-reliance is the key!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3'91 View Post
    Why do we have to rely on the US for equipment such as patrol craft that we are more than capable to build on our own??

    I say we should be self reliant!! Nobody is going to help us when the sh!t hits the fan except ourselves!

    Probably the assistance we can request for is technology transfer for the more technical aspects of the craft, but otherwise I think we can build our own ships. My gas, we build commercial vessels, with the Koreans here so why not navy vessels?

    The Indonesians are doing it, we should be doing it as well.

    Self-reliance is the key!
    Kung tutuusin kaya natin eh.. ang daming talented na engineers dito sa atin.. invest in military R&D.. may tiwala ako sa kakayahan ng mga kapwa ko engineer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconutnut View Post
    Kung tutuusin kaya natin eh.. ang daming talented na engineers dito sa atin.. invest in military R&D.. may tiwala ako sa kakayahan ng mga kapwa ko engineer..
    Well as much talent as we have in here, our schools teach us to get out of this country and do our best stuff abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrol_man View Post
    Well as much talent as we have in here, our schools teach us to get out of this country and do our best stuff abroad.
    in my opinion ok lang mangibang bansa since the bitter truth na nandoon ang technology and "greener pasture". Pero sana, let's share the knowledge and bring the technology here for other engineers to study.

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    Matapos paalisin yung mga Kano ngayon naman humihingi ng support? Haha. Hindi din pala makapal mukha natin eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconutnut View Post
    in my opinion ok lang mangibang bansa since the bitter truth na nandoon ang technology and "greener pasture". Pero sana, let's share the knowledge and bring the technology here for other engineers to study.
    Siguro kasi, dapat may contract tayo dun sa mga nagaral sa mga State Colleges or even public schools that in case mangibang bansa sila, they would come back here and share the knowledge they acquired abroad and would contribute to the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanh0rn View Post

    o ano? lakas nyong awayin ang USA lalo na during cory admin

    eh ano ngayon?
    I'm not exactly a big fan to Cory, but to set the record straight, her administration was pushing for the extensio of the US Bases agreement. Yung mga Senador natin, playing as nationalistic kuno (kasama pa si Erap dun) ang nagpatalsik sa US Bases (I felt it was pretty stupid then, and I still think it's pretty stupid now). I thought there might have been a small chance to salvage the agreement somehow, pero nag-alburoto si Pinatubo and the Americans decided to pack up anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrol_man View Post
    Siguro kasi, dapat may contract tayo dun sa mga nagaral sa mga State Colleges or even public schools that in case mangibang bansa sila, they would come back here and share the knowledge they acquired abroad and would contribute to the society.
    Even if there's no contract, basta may pagmamahal ka sa inang bayan babalik at babalik ka dito. Like south koreans did after the war. They went abroad to study and returned to korea to rebuild it with their acquired knowledge.

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    sa lahat ng mga kaalyado ng u.s. kuripot talaga sila sa atin kahit na sa military surplus nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3'91 View Post
    Why do we have to rely on the US for equipment such as patrol craft that we are more than capable to build on our own??

    I say we should be self reliant!! Nobody is going to help us when the sh!t hits the fan except ourselves!

    Probably the assistance we can request for is technology transfer for the more technical aspects of the craft, but otherwise I think we can build our own ships. My gas, we build commercial vessels, with the Koreans here so why not navy vessels?

    The Indonesians are doing it, we should be doing it as well.

    Self-reliance is the key!
    Yup. And arm it with 40mm guns and a 20mm electric gatling gun made by Armscor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconutnut View Post
    Kung tutuusin kaya natin eh.. ang daming talented na engineers dito sa atin.. invest in military R&D.. may tiwala ako sa kakayahan ng mga kapwa ko engineer..
    Kinansel kasi ni Erap yung military r&d natin. May mga attack helicopters tayo na gawa natin tulad ng Hummingbirds ini-scrap. Tapos yung general na nakaimbento ng helicopter na tumatakbo using water ay pinatay nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeFan_YouJane View Post
    I'm not exactly a big fan to Cory, but to set the record straight, her administration was pushing for the extensio of the US Bases agreement. Yung mga Senador natin, playing as nationalistic kuno (kasama pa si Erap dun) ang nagpatalsik sa US Bases (I felt it was pretty stupid then, and I still think it's pretty stupid now). I thought there might have been a small chance to salvage the agreement somehow, pero nag-alburoto si Pinatubo and the Americans decided to pack up anyway...
    Sino ba nagpalayas sa mga US bases? Di ko na kasi maalala e.

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    ask? how about using the word BUY? we still want to be a pain in the @ss of America, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bier_trinker View Post
    Sino ba nagpalayas sa mga US bases? Di ko na kasi maalala e.
    Si Amay Pinatubo ang nagpalayas sa mga Hey Joe

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    Yup, yung pag reject ng mga Senador sa Treaty, I'm sure, mapapag-usapan pa sana, kaso nga Mt Pinatubo was the final straw, kung baga...

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    Low life spineless beggars!! You deserve the commies!!!!!!

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    Noong Marso sinabing bibili ng 12 na F-16 ang Pilipinas...

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    the Philippines is asking for assistance ...anong masama don? bakit naging isyu bigla yung pag-alis ng mga americans dito?

    kung nandito yung mga bases may nasasabi tayo ...pag wala meron pa rin ?

    maraming dapat ganito ..dapat ganun , pero at the present situation praktikal ba yung solutions nyo?

    kung palusob na yung china , pinoy pride pa rin tayo???

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