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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    Welcome back faaip.

    I can't recall the exact circumstances behind the 2000 and 2001 seasons. I believe DI topped the stats race in one of those seasons but don't quote me on that. What I do know is that on his rookie year in 1999, Seigle garnered more statistical points than Ildefonso, making him the undisputed top Beerman for that season. He was part of the Mythical 5 on his rookie year, an outstanding feat that matched the previous efforts of Arnie Tuadles in 1979, Ricardo Brown in 1983, Allan Caidic in 1987, Benjie Paras in 1989, Marlou Aquino in 1996 and Sonny Alvarado in 1999, and later on, by Jimmy Alapag in 2003 and Kelly Williams in 2007.

    But what I'm sure was in 2002, it was impossible for DS to have topped the statistical race since he started the season playing for the Selecta national team. While their statistical points were credited, Seigle had to share minutes with other national players. Ultimately, the player who generated the most number of statistical points for the season was Red Bull's Davon Harp. Harp was originally part of the Hapee national selection in the 1st conference and was a shoo-in for the 12-man final lineup of Selecta for the 2nd conference. But because of an alleged rape case filed against him, Harp opted to drop out of the pool and carried Red Bull to its second PBA title in 2002.

    The shooting guard position isn't exactly "weak." It's in fact one of the deepest - it's the position where we will never run out of talented players. The difference though is that we don't have a major personality that truly dominated this position. I initially penciled Ricardo Brown as the top shooting guard of all-time but Brown corrected me in one of my many correspondences with him, citing his real position as point guard. So that puts him out of this list.

    The only legitimate shooting guard who won the MVP title is actually Atoy Co in 1979. But we have a lot of talented non-MVP winners that we can include in this list - players like Francis Arnaiz (could have won the first MVP title in 1975), Mark Caguioa (could have won the 2007 MVP title), Danny Florencio (the league-leading scorer in 1977 and 1978 and owner of the highest scoring average in one season with 32.3 ppg), Lim Eng Beng and Samboy Lim (both members of the PBA's Best 25 players). But judging from this, you know their names aren't as huge as a Jaworski at the point, an Adornado or Caidic at SF, a Patrimonio or a Cezar at PF, or a Fernandez, or Taulava at the center slot.

    Lastly, I'm not sure how history will determine the playing position of James Yap. It's the same dilemma I had with Brown but I'd like to think that Yap should and would be categorized as a small forward - similar to the playing positions of Messrs. Adornado, Caidic, Hubalde, Meneses and Duremdes.
    Thanks JPM!

    I have a very vague recollection of how DI won his second MVP trophy. Benjie Paras was hosting a Who Wants To Be A Millionaire segment and the two Danny's were the last two options. LOL.

  2. #62
    Danny S is always posting betting stats than Danny I.

    In 2000, Fil-shams issue caused Danny S to miss a lot of games. I know almost 10 games.

    In 2001, Danny S got injured in the elims.

    Had the statistical points been computed the same way as it is computed today, Danny S would have been the top player in statistical points

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by YoonJay18 View Post
    I agree with this. 'Yun na lang ang kulang sakanya eh. May one game in his last stint with the national team where he scored a lot of treys. Jones Cup ata 'yun against Taipei.

    But the thing is consistency. Kahit sa PBA nga, pag playoffs lang siya laging naglalaro ng maganda. Walang 'libog' ang laro niya pag elims eh.

    sa fiba asia mismo un nung nagliyab si james yap sa 3rd quarter. Kung pangit stint ni JY sa National Team panu pa kaya si Caguioa na nangitlog sa Fiba-Asia at puro reklamo sa mga refs
    Last edited by asero; May 3, 2012 at 06:14 PM.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    Lastly, I'm not sure how history will determine the playing position of James Yap. It's the same dilemma I had with Brown but I'd like to think that Yap should and would be categorized as a small forward - similar to the playing positions of Messrs. Adornado, Caidic, Hubalde, Meneses and Duremdes.
    His real position is shooting guard. Ryan Gregorio always played James at the 2 spot, with Pingris playing the 3. I think James started to play 3 under coach Jorge Gallent, when he decided to play small ball with B-MEG Derby Ace back then.

    Right now, Tim Cone is usually putting James in the 3 only if he and PJ are on the court at the same time. And he doesn't have many options either due to their limited number of big men.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by asero View Post
    sa fiba asia mismo un nung nagliyad si james yap sa 3rd quarter. Kung pangit stint ni JY sa National Team panu pa kaya si Caguioa na nangitlog sa Fiba-Asia at puro reklamo sa mga refs
    Okay. Thanks for correcting me about where tournament James played that game.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by asero View Post
    sa fiba asia mismo un nung nagliyab si james yap sa 3rd quarter. Kung pangit stint ni JY sa National Team panu pa kaya si Caguioa na nangitlog sa Fiba-Asia at puro reklamo sa mga refs
    Patalo nga si Pango nung 1 game sa Fiba Asia. Iran yata yun nung tinawagan sya ng technical.

    Pero since pinag-compare mo na rin lang si Jems at Pango sa National Team stint nila, eto ang comparison na hindi haka-haka...

    MC 12pts/game, rank 27th overall in scoring, 42% FG, 13.2% 3pt FG, 80% FT

    JY 9.3pts/gm, rank 49th overall in scoring, 28.6% FG, 36.2% 3pt FG, 50% FT.

    #justsaying

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  9. #67
    jinx tong thread!

    sa tingin ko mas mataas siya kesa kina Jolas, Duremdes, Cariaso and Meneses.
    opinyon lang po.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by jacel27 View Post
    Patalo nga si Pango nung 1 game sa Fiba Asia. Iran yata yun nung tinawagan sya ng technical.

    Pero since pinag-compare mo na rin lang si Jems at Pango sa National Team stint nila, eto ang comparison na hindi haka-haka...

    MC 12pts/game, rank 27th overall in scoring, 42% FG, 13.2% 3pt FG, 80% FT

    JY 9.3pts/gm, rank 49th overall in scoring, 28.6% FG, 36.2% 3pt FG, 50% FT.

    #justsaying
    hindi naman solely fiba asia yang stats na yan. Kasama jan ang tune-up games ala jones cup

  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by asero View Post
    hindi naman solely fiba asia yang stats na yan. Kasama jan ang tune-up games ala jones cup
    LOL..ayan ka na naman brader e.. haka-haka ka uli e..

    Pano mo naman nasabi na kasama dyan mga tune-up games? Alam mo ba kung san ko kinuha yan?

    Sensya na mga brader..OT ha.
    Last edited by jacel27; May 4, 2012 at 10:07 PM.

  12. #70
    ^^ just checked it out, kasama pala jan ang consolation round games. Tandang tanda ko talaga na sobrang pangit ng laro ni MC sa mga crucial games. Tumaas lang average niya dahil sa mga games laban sa weak teams

  13. #71
    MC numbers against strong asian teams

    Iran: 7 points, 1/11 FG, 7 Rebs, 0 Assts, 7 TOs, fouled out
    Jordan: 9 points, 4/13 FG, 4 Rebs, 1 Assts, 4 TOs, fouled out

  14. #72
    I would put James Yap as a 2-guard. Yes, he has surpassed the likes of Lim, Meneses, Agustin, Duremdes, Lastimosa and maybe even Caidic.

    As per legacy, it is more than talent. You still have to factor the combination of charisma, accomplishments, etc.

  15. #73
    Yap lucked out here. He got his Finals MVP award and no one will remember how he withered under pressure in Game 7.

  16. #74
    james didn't get his shots. but he made good contributions. di naman malalayo tama ng tira nya. good thing they win.

  17. #75
    i don't think james succumbed to the game's pressure. sadyang hindi lang pumapasok karamihan ng tira nya, lalo na yung layup in the middle nung 4Q.

  18. #76
    Congratulations James!
    Another feather in your cap...

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    Quote Originally Posted by faaip_de_oiad View Post
    Yap lucked out here. He got his Finals MVP award and no one will remember how he withered under pressure in Game 7.
    he almost lost the series for b-meg, but the finals MVP is not just decided by one game. and besides, he was 1/2 of the pivotal play that sent the game into overtime.

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    Siya naman nagpahabol. Plus that last assist to Bowles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Buwaya View Post
    i don't think james succumbed to the game's pressure. sadyang hindi lang pumapasok karamihan ng tira nya, lalo na yung layup in the middle nung 4Q.
    Mismo! Hindi naman na-pressure eh. Alat lang at pagod sa tindi ng depensa ng TnT. Andun ang pokus eh, kaya nakita si Bowles sa ilalim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsky View Post
    Siya naman nagpahabol. Plus that last assist to Bowles.
    12 pts, 8 rebs... is not a bad performance. higpit lang talaga depensa sa kanya lalo ngayon, kaya rin siguro bumigay na tuhod ni reyes, kakahabol kay james buong game.

    he's the most consistent local scorer for BMEG in the finals. well deserved FINALS MVP recognition.

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