Hello Brooklyn: Say Hello To Your Brooklyn Nets!

[MakaveliLives]

True, but the Nets don't have two of the 10 best players in the league right now. When the game slows down in the playoffs, it is really paramount that any team has someone inside that can manufacture points at any given moment. Besides, history will tell us that all great PGs require a decent-to-good center to win rings.



Dude, I know you're really a huge fan of Lopez. I respect that. However, name any above average center that Lopez will "eat" on offense? Quite frankly, Lopez is one of, if not, the most skilled big in the game. His problems are more in his lack of athleticism and strength. He is simply not strong enough to bull his way inside against Bynum or Bynum, or quick enough to make Duncan or Ibaka eat his dust.



Wouldn't it be awesome if you can somehow pry away Perkins from OKC? Perk-Lopez-Crash-JJ-Deron will be devastating.

Yes, that's why I said that I'm not saying that they can do it. I'm still waiting if they can get a good system up in place to compensate that if in case they don't get D12.

Regarding Lopez, he did average 20ppg in one season and averaged 19ppg before and after his 20ppg season. It's not as if he scored 30 points against the scrubs and then 10 points against the elites.

This was his game-by-game stats during the 2010-2011 season:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...11/brook-lopez

I see a lot of big games against the guys that you mentioned. Including a 35 point game against Bynum which he limited to just 2 points.

He has a wide array of moves and he doesn't rely on strength and this is why a lot of experts are saying that he's one of the best OFFENSIVE big men in the game. If he averages a couple more rebounds more, I'm sure he'll be included in all-star considerations. I can see him averaged 9 rpg, something that he's already done, this year. This is because he won't be pressured to score in bunches anymore.

Perkins had a disappointing season with OKC but I guess that's mainly because of too much pressure to be that imposing veteran. A change of scenario with the Nets, where there are a lot of veteran presences, might do wonders for him.

[Riddikulus]

- wala pa napapatunayan ang Nets.
- DWill with the team last year generated only 22 wins.(DWill played 55)
- JJ is declining, and fast! DWill is an upgrade to Teague? He is more in ISO than moving w/o the ball.
- GWallace? Gerald Green 13ppg 3.5 rpg. Wallace 15.2 ppg 6.8 rpg. My point is they both play same position. Who's your pick?
- They might not get to playoffs with this line up. Unless they trade for Howard.


Goodluck sa Nets.

They need a new coach I think?

Jerry Sloan??

[deronwilliams08]

Having a good low post presence is not key to winning title. The Heat did it without one. I'm sure you'll say that Bosh is a big man. But he's not really your prototypical big man who bangs down low.

Wrong. In recent history, only two teams have been exceptions to that statistic. Jordan's Bulls and Last year's Heat. Common demominator? Both teams had the best player in the league.

[MakaveliLives]

- wala pa napapatunayan ang Nets.
- DWill with the team last year generated only 22 wins.(DWill played 55)
- JJ is declining, and fast! DWill is an upgrade to Teague? He is more in ISO than moving w/o the ball.
- GWallace? Gerald Green 13ppg 3.5 rpg. Wallace 15.2 ppg 6.8 rpg. My point is they both play same position. Who's your pick?
- They might not get to playoffs with this line up. Unless they trade for Howard.


Goodluck sa Nets.

They need a new coach I think?

Jerry Sloan??

Since you want to talk about last season, please tell me the difference between last season and this season when it comes to personnel. Also, the Nets lost a lot of games due to injuries. While it's not an excuse, it's a reason why the Nets lost a lot of games.

JJ is declining? Any proof? His stats has been consistent.

Wallace will start and Green will sub for him. Easy.

They're not going to make the playoffs with a lineup with a first 5 of D-Will-JJ-Crash-Hump-Lopez? Please list down 8 teams that are better than this lineup. I might be missing something. It's one thing to say that they can't win the chip. But for this lineup to miss the playoffs?

[MakaveliLives]

Wrong. In recent history, only two teams have been exceptions to that statistic. Jordan's Bulls and Last year's Heat. Common demominator? Both teams had the best player in the league.

I'm not saying that we can win without a dominant big man. In the same way that having the best player in the league guarantees a championship. All I'm saying is with a good system, it can be done. Having the best player in the league helps. But without a good system, they couldn't have done it.

Again, I'm not saying that we're going to do it. I'm just saying that it has been done before.

[KielDaMan]

The current roster of Lopez-that Euro guy-GWallace-JJ-Deron + bench of Brooks-Evans-Hump-etc are pretty solid IMO - at least on paper. I think it's safe to say they would make the playoffs, but speculations whether they would go deep or not or even make the POs are a bit premature. Let's judge them once we see them play together.

Maraming issues kailangan i-address ang Nets to be successful, though I think what's most important is yung defense. Just look at the Top Teams of the East: Heat, Celtics, Bulls, even Indy - they're all great defensive squads which seems to be the norm to be on top of the East. So it will all depend kung magagawa ni Coach Avery for his team to commit into defense. And this is where I think Dwight's value will be critical - he alone can anchor the defense and his teammates could just "support" him - that is if the Nets do land D12. But without Dwight, I don't see how these Nets can become a good defensive team.

These Nets with a solid line-up built around a single superstar reminds me of Rose's Bulls - minus the yet-to-be-seen defensive system. And look how the Bulls fared against the Heat. Fact is, one superstar plus a bunch of quality role players isn't enough for a team to contend. I still think they need D12 to contend for the 'Chip.

[deronwilliams08]

The Hawks are surely going to decline and IMO the Magic will too. So I think BKN barring key injuries will get a playoff spot.

[triggersnipe]

Still not competitive enough tho'

[MakaveliLives]

The current roster of Lopez-that Euro guy-GWallace-JJ-Deron + bench of Brooks-Evans-Hump-etc are pretty solid IMO - at least on paper. I think it's safe to say they would make the playoffs, but speculations whether they would go deep or not or even make the POs are a bit premature. Let's judge them once we see them play together.

Maraming issues kailangan i-address ang Nets to be successful, though I think what's most important is yung defense. Just look at the Top Teams of the East: Heat, Celtics, Bulls, even Indy - they're all great defensive squads which seems to be the norm to be on top of the East. So it will all depend kung magagawa ni Coach Avery for his team to commit into defense. And this is where I think Dwight's value will be critical - he alone can anchor the defense and his teammates could just "support" him - that is if the Nets do land D12. But without Dwight, I don't see how these Nets can become a good defensive team.

These Nets with a solid line-up built around a single superstar reminds me of Rose's Bulls - minus the yet-to-be-seen defensive system. And look how the Bulls fared against the Heat. Fact is, one superstar plus a bunch of quality role players isn't enough for a team to contend. I still think they need D12 to contend for the 'Chip.

There's nothing wrong with issuing predictions. Yun nga ang exciting eh. So with this present lineup, I'm predicting a top 4 spot for the Nets in the East.

The Hawks are surely going to decline and IMO the Magic will too. So I think BKN barring key injuries will get a playoff spot.

Yup that's what I've been saying. I think that's a huge factor in D-Will's decision. It's a wide open race for the 2nd spot in the East. Walang clear-cut number 2.

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To add to what I said earlier, it's not as if Lopez is a scrub. Some people are saying that you need to have a dominant big man in order to contend for the chip. While Lopez is not dominant in a Shaq or D12 way, his offense is good to have. With him in the lineup, we have at least 4 guys who can easily score 20 points each game. He can also complement JJ since JJ sometimes post up as well while Lopez loves those mid-range jumpers.

We also have a new strength and conditioning coach. I've been hearing that Lopez is putting in a lot of work in the weight room. A 20-10 year is not a far-fetched idea since he already averaged 19-9 before.

Wallace and Hump can take care of the boards. The question is - can the perimeter defenders prevent the slashers from taking it to Lopez? Wallace is a top-tier defender, and JJ is not too shabby as well.

Avery is a known defensive coach. Now that he has a good lineup, it's up to him to set up a good defensive system to hide the weaknesses on defense.

Now, this is not to say that I don't want D12. I'm even okay now with sending MarShon as well. I know that I didn't want him to go before. But now that we have JJ, I wish him well. I still think he'll be an amazing player in the NBA.

If we get D12, I'll be "overly-excited" ulit. But I'm getting sick and tired of this drama. I just hope that this ends soon.

[MakaveliLives]

#hellomirza

[Rudy_Fernandez]

nice one nets. embracing deron back, getting joe johnson and retaining some good backups. tapos na ba or will they eventually lure howard? mukang di na lol. as long as wallace, lopez, humphries and brooks continue to be productive, it will be a nice start for brooklyn. hope they can be good as they are viewed in paper. o yoonjay, lalamang na ba talaga sila next year kesa knicks?

[MakaveliLives]

Eto naman kaseng si Yoonjay dalawa na nga lang kaming active Nets fans dito sa PEX eh ngayon pa hindi nag-post. Mukha tuloy ako nag-mo-monologue dito. Haha!

[dagzilicious]

for me

brooks>joe johnson

[LeBroom]

I envy the Nets. Not cause of Deron, or Joe Johnson, or Teletubbies or Crash...

I WANTED REGGIE EVANS!!! ~_~

If we don't land Kenyon Martin, I'd be pissed.

[MakaveliLives]

for me

brooks>joe johnson

Maybe in a couple of years.

I envy the Nets. Not cause of Deron, or Joe Johnson, or Teletubbies or Crash...

I WANTED REGGIE EVANS!!! ~_~

If we don't land Kenyon Martin, I'd be pissed.

That dude is effing annoying. But he's a dude who you'd love to be on your team. #iaintlyin

Being a K-Mart fan, I hope he doesn't land with the Knicks.

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By the way, here's a little something for people who are treating Lopez as if he's a scrub:



Watch him curl to the right, curl to the left, curl towards the baseline, and make jumpers.

[talunan08]

The Nets FO is doing an excellent job. Although I'd rather have Howard than Lopez, I feel Brook can step up his game in rebounding and defense. I don't them matching up well with Miami if their perimeter and post defense is not good. That being said, the deal against the Jazz looked very good on paper right now after everything that happened the past few days. They only needed Favors and Harris to get Deron unlike the Melodrama last year. It was low key yet an undeniably blockbuster acquisition.

To be honest I was very skeptical the idea that Deron will re-sign since they don't appear to have the pieces and they failed to get Dwight during last season but they proved me wrong. I wasn't one of them but there were a few who laughed at the Nets when they didn't get any major free agent during the Lebron's FA year They should eat some humble pie.

[MakaveliLives]

The Nets FO is doing an excellent job. Although I'd rather have Howard than Lopez, I feel Brook can step up his game in rebounding and defense. I don't them matching up well with Miami if their perimeter and post defense is not good. That being said, the deal against the Jazz looked very good on paper right now after everything that happened the past few days. They only needed Favors and Harris to get Deron unlike the Melodrama last year. It was low key yet an undeniably blockbuster acquisition.

To be honest I was very skeptical the idea that Deron will re-sign since they don't appear to have the pieces and they failed to get Dwight during last season but they proved me wrong. I wasn't one of them but there were a few who laughed at the Nets when they didn't get any major free agent during the Lebron's FA year They should eat some humble pie.

Yun nga eh. Daming haters nun na wala daw gusto maglaro sa Nets. Well, blessing in disguise yung hindi nakuha si Melo. Si LeBron oo sayang. Hehe. But we didn't come out empty-handed.

Kidd said in an interview that D-Will was really considering Dallas. But BK's move to sign Wallace, Tele and JJ made him decide to sign with the Nets. I guess he likes the potential of the team, while the Mavericks still has nothing to show for it.

The D-Will trade is really looking good right now. Favors is still not showing any promise and Kanter (the pick) is far from being productive.

I'm really hoping that Brooks is using the off-season to improve his defense. We need him badly to improve our perimeter defense. He has the tools - length and speed, to be a good defender.

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I just read that Tele's contract is actually not the full MLE. He's only getting $3 million a year instead of $5. Nice. This gives us more flexibility to sign up a few more pieces.

By the way, this dude really wants to play with the Nets. He paid the buyout, even taking out a loan to pay for it. Also, he would have earned more if he stayed.

Agree about Brook's need to improve his rebounding his defense. Although I feel that his lack of rebounding and defense is brought upon in part by his battle with mono. He already showed that he can grab 9rpg. I feel that with less pressure on him to score, he can actually channel his focus a bit on his rebounding and defense.

[deronwilliams08]

The D-Will trade is really looking good right now. Favors is still not showing any promise and Kanter (the pick) is far from being productive.

I don't mean to derail this thread but that part you wrote on Favors couldn't be any more wrong. Favors is just not getting his opportunities but he got to start during the time Al Jeff got injured and he was beasting. There was one game where he was like 22-15. Just wanted to point that out. His ceiling is a more athletic Kevin Love. I won't be surprised if he ends up being our best player.

[stopzone]

It would be nice if Nets gets Howard. I like Lopez pero injury phrone sya sayang naman if we don't utilize him during the entire season so getting Howard is our solution to injury phrone Lopez.
PG - Williams
SG -JJ
SF -Wallace
PF - ? (I will assume Hump is included in DH deal)
C - Howard

[MakaveliLives]

I don't mean to derail this thread but that part you wrote on Favors couldn't be any more wrong. Favors is just not getting his opportunities but he got to start during the time Al Jeff got injured and he was beasting. There was one game where he was like 22-15. Just wanted to point that out. His ceiling is a more athletic Kevin Love. I won't be surprised if he ends up being our best player.

Yes, but a few games don't mean that he'll be a beast. I guess I'm comparing him to Cousins who I wanted the Nets to pick at that time. He's already beasting and he's doing it consistently.

Any chance that the Jazz will unload some of its bigs to provide Favors with the PT?