The China Syndrome

[pieno]

Economic boycott -- nope

Military action -- no way

Diplomatic maneuvering -- no traction

US help -- big silence statewide

Rally of pinoys abroad -- they have more Chinese abroad

International Court -- huhuhuhuh

ASEAN -- snobbed

Prayer Crusade -- my suggestion, but the Christians are not taking it up.

There are better suggestions next post...

Alaskarize the Orcs. Gaya ng nangyari kay Muhammad. The more na nagalit sila nagpatiwakal dahil sa Drawing pumatay ng mga inosente lalo sumikat yung "Everybody draw Muhammad Day" Dapat si Mr. Siba Hu Jintao tsaka lahat ng kaìntsikan na yan, alaskahin ng todo todo hahahahaha

[SmartDessa]

that's the thing, the encouragement isn't wide spread, hence the Spirit is only to select a handful to pray for an issue that affects the majority? (if not all)

even encouraging people comes also from the Spirit and not to be dictated...

point is, a christian lives in constant communication with God, whatever prayer he makes, whether it be for the country, for his family, or himself, or for you, are all based on the Spirit's guidance.

you can't blame the christians for not encouraging or not offering a widespread prayer rally on this nationwide all-affecting problem. Do realize that there are also christians in China, and there is a possibility that filipino christians are praying for China's interest, it really depends on God's arrangement.

Do you think that prayer is like a summoning an elemental to aide you in your conflict?
Do you think that we christians are like the bishops in your chess match? or your cleric in your party?

no, prayer is to drop all your interests, including national problems, and fully rely on God, whether China bombs the Philippines or the US helps us get the island we think we own, it's up to the Lord, if we lose to China then we should not feel sad, for everything works for good to those who love God.

What we need to pray for is that the Lord will preserve us through in any result that we face.

[marcus_hunt]

But we don't war. We only want tension and US attention.

Step. 3 is actually getting the US to give us economic and military assistance. We don't want bases -- too politically difficult. But we can use the billions that they are giving to Pakistan and Egypt.

http://www.cgdev.org/section/initiat...kistan/numbers

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/wo...-restored.html

we'll thats just in case it does become a war. and since i dont think they want that either but surely they do want control of those resources, they'll might give us economic and military assistance enough for us to be taken seriously.

[goat1230]

even encouraging people comes also from the Spirit and not to be dictated...

point is, a christian lives in constant communication with God, whatever prayer he makes, whether it be for the country, for his family, or himself, or for you, are all based on the Spirit's guidance.

you can't blame the christians for not encouraging or not offering a widespread prayer rally on this nationwide all-affecting problem. Do realize that there are also christians in China, and there is a possibility that filipino christians are praying for China's interest, it really depends on God's arrangement.

Do you think that prayer is like a summoning an elemental to aide you in your conflict?
Do you think that we christians are like the bishops in your chess match? or your cleric in your party?

no, prayer is to drop all your interests, including national problems, and fully rely on God, whether China bombs the Philippines or the US helps us get the island we think we own, it's up to the Lord, if we lose to China then we should not feel sad, for everything works for good to those who love God.

What we need to pray for is that the Lord will preserve us through in any result that we face.

there you go.. self interest like I mentioned earlier

[SmartDessa]

there you go.. self interest like I mentioned earlier

if it's self interest then we should pray that the Philippines win against China.

praying for us to be preserved is to pray that we are still subject to His interest, not our interests

[goat1230]

if it's self interest then we should pray that the Philippines win against China.

praying for us to be preserved is to pray that we are still subject to His interest, not our interests

yeah, self interests, HIS interest

not humanity. therefore, is not related to this topic altogether

[doombot]

if it's self interest then we should pray that the Philippines win against China.

praying for us to be preserved is to pray that we are still subject to His interest, not our interests

"There are no atheists in foxholes" - soldier's saying's

its like a neo cold war na hahaha.

I can only hope that if we had war with china and they decided to nuke the pinas. I hope that the UFO's will come and zap the missile in mid air hahaha

[XIII]

Wala na. Dumating lang si Dessa at nababoy na rin tong thread na to. Wag niyo na kasi pansinin at determined yata siya na i-derail lahat ng thread dito sa RoT.

[goat1230]

But we don't war. We only want tension and US attention.

Step. 3 is actually getting the US to give us economic and military assistance. We don't want bases -- too politically difficult. But we can use the billions that they are giving to Pakistan and Egypt.

http://www.cgdev.org/section/initiat...kistan/numbers

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/wo...-restored.html

so how exactly will this billions be spent? I don't think the Americans will just hand us over that.

they have to have a military base again in the PI, in which why I think that even though they left Subic, they weren't gone totally; hence "balikatan exercises"

[XIII]

The Americans will fork that money over as soon as they see some benefit from it. The US will watch out for it's own interests, and when that coincides with ours, help will come.

As for how the money is to be used, one can always hope that it will be spent on the military. Though there's no threat of China actually doing something truly dangerous, there's no reason to be too reliant on the US.

[doombot]

so how exactly will this billions be spent? I don't think the Americans will just hand us over that.

they have to have a military base again in the PI, in which why I think that even though they left Subic, they weren't gone totally; hence "balikatan exercises"

development ng mga infrastructure chaka mga daan, mga public schools at madami pang iba na kalangan iimprove lalo na sa mindanao.

pede rin magpatayu ng sariling nuclear power plant para ma solve ang energy crisis ng pinas

[goat1230]

development ng mga infrastructure chaka mga daan, mga public schools at madami pang iba na kalangan iimprove lalo na sa mindanao.

pede rin magpatayu ng sariling nuclear power plant para ma solve ang energy crisis ng pinas

we have had loaned billions already, pero hindi nakarating sa patutunguhan, so I strongly doubt this will happen unless US military forces are here to "somewhat supervise"

[XIII]

Sa palagay ko e hindi nuclear power plant ang sagot sa energy crisis natin. I-import din natin ang mga nuclear fuels na gagamitin sa plant na yun (not to mention the nuclear technology).

Also, papayag ba ang US na gamitin natin sa infastructure yung billions na yon? I don't think so. Those billions were (hypothetically) given with strings attached: namely, to counter Chinese influence. Paano makakatulong ang infastructure dun?

[doombot]

we have had loaned billions already, pero hindi nakarating sa patutunguhan, so I strongly doubt this will happen unless US military forces are here to "somewhat supervise"

yun yun, sila ang mag hahawak ng mga projects. kasi kung politiko ang hahawak hahaha mahirap na.

common sense lang na wag ipahawak sa politiko natin ang nuclear project kung mayroon man. bakit? lam mo na yun hahahaha

[goat1230]

at least it will upgrade our defenses somewhat, infrastructure and skills-wise and that means they also have to improve our roads for a better (more efficient) delivery, give training to our military (and their families), and construct or pioneer a project to improve our energy source

not to mention, to give jobs to those within its parameter

[doombot]

makakatulong ang infrastructures lalo na kung mga project manager ay mga puti. i mean years ang bibilangin bago matapus ang isang project, so meaning year ang itatagal ng stay ng mga American expats dito.

not to say pa yung local employments pa during construction of this projects. at yung mga puting expast with their family sa pinas spending their money. this will stimulate the economy.

nuclear malaking kasagutan yan kasi matagal na taon bago ito ma deplete ang mga uranium core nito.

[goat1230]

^i'd agree with XIII, hindi nuclear power ang sagot satin. i'm looking at efficient energy transfer instead. marami naman tayong pagkukunan ng iba't ibang klaseng energy source, untapped ang karamihan

though, it will still, not help us with the territorial battle against China.

also, what would US gain when they will build a Nuke powerplant in the PI? who would manage it? (government? duh!)

[doombot]

^i'd agree with XIII, hindi nuclear power ang sagot satin. i'm looking at efficient energy transfer instead. marami naman tayong pagkukunan ng iba't ibang klaseng energy source, untapped ang karamihan

though, it will still, not help us with the territorial battle against China.

also, what would US gain when they will build a Nuke powerplant in the PI? who would manage it? (government? duh!)

hindi nga feasible at cost efficient ang mga alternative sources for now.

US gains control until such time filipino engineers are trained to operate the plants.

and also we need defenses on the plants, this means weaponry transaction again hahaha

[SmartDessa]

Wala na. Dumating lang si Dessa at nababoy na rin tong thread na to. Wag niyo na kasi pansinin at determined yata siya na i-derail lahat ng thread dito sa RoT.

aba, I was just answering a question started by the TS. Kung hindi niya siningit yung accusation niya na walang ginagawa ang mga kristiano e hindi naman ako mag-shashare.

and what's so derailing about giving answers about Him to those who seek?

ang nangdederail ng mga threads dito e yung nagderail ng isang thread ko about whether women should lead in the church.

[doombot]

common guys kung may nuclear facility satin magandang learning point to para sa mga engineers natin to develop something in the future. hhaha