Should we abandon science now?

[Mojowatcher]

In addition, if the keeper’s policy is to deny or discard the other visions the NCA enjoins them.

Because the ruling keepers have fully abandoned the real central issue of survival my book doesn’t merely clarifies but re-affirms our commitment to it in a new era in science.

Moreover, because it is primarily devised as a simple and easy to use framework of approach, its new power tool doesn’t merely prevents one from being led to confusion but guides you in identifying the principal to the secondary issues. That’s if you are able to define their true nature.

It is consistent, coherent, and comprehensive because the NCA is applicable not only to both the large structure of the universe and the extremely tiny sub particles of the very small world of the atom but practically to anything.

[Mojowatcher]

Furthermore, its advantages can be easily compared with the two old and obsolete approaches of the keepers.

In fact, its validity can be tested inadvertently. So, both the un-initiated so-called and the new generation of scientists can test now the validity of the solutions with the easy to use new power tool of the new cosmic approach.

The experimentalists can begin validating now the entirely different approach for the solution to the technical nature of the so-called greatest mystery of all time, which was intertwined with the doctrines of creations of the two competing visions, thus, it is so-called a great shocker by the keepers.

Meanwhile, the theorists who are driven crazy with the two great but incoherent scientific theories (general relativity and quantum mechanics) can start blending them now with the new cosmic approach. That’s if the entangled baffling keepers consider a last priority the principal issue.

[Frank_Macky]

Good morning everyone! My sources from abroad advised me to take precaution. They told me that the totalitarian keepers have sent their best agents here in our country to pacify and silence me.

And they are converging now at pex because mojowatcher isn't only exposing but opposing the totalitarian keepers now. They also told me that they really hate me now!

Persecution complex... tsk. tsk. tsk.

I thought at first you were hinting at something worth listening to, but now you're really beginning to sound like an attention-seeking loonie...

I frankly have no idea what you're talking about now...

Are we, the ones replying to you here in this forum, agents sent by the keepers? Or are you talking about the men in white?

[Mojowatcher]

That's all for today guys.

The next postings will deal on the breaking away points and the continuity of intellectual efforts. This is the key to understanding the new cosmic approach and why it resolves the contradictions and conflicts that stuck the ruling keepers and science for that matter.

It is the guide to figuring out puzzles and why Galileo, Newton, Maxwell, and Einstein are said to be the greatest physicists. This means that they resolve the principal and secondary contradictions given during their time.

Of course, as pointed out already, the contradictions during their are pure technical in character. Thus, I said the principal contradictions and conflicts given in our current stage is not purely technical but it is about philosophy and an entirely new framework of approach.

I have already enumerated and answered most of the questions you have but for those who are interested they can ask questions again.

Also, please read my intro in these threads: Big Bang Disproved; Creation of the Universe, wherein I elaborated why I am trying to stop the petty sectarian clash, Dark Energy is real, Ancient Aliens Theory before you make your comments and suggestions.

The reason I made those intro is for easy reference. For example, I pointed out in those intros that I am not convincing anyone here to change their beliefs or personal doctrines. In fact, to emphasize I even issued a warning.

I have also mentioned that what we are talking about here is philosophy and theoretical physics. If you noticed in the Dark energy is real thread I am actually inviting the real cosmologists and theoretical physicists not only in our country but the entire world.

But it's ok to ask that is the purpose of my unleashing my diametrically opposed ideas as regards the current views in the world of science of the totalitarian keepers.

Of course, the point of all the exchanging of views isn't merely to know why the keepers are stuck and science for that but to figure out the puzzles. Do you get that?

I have also answered the questions why I am doing this. Please read them!!!

[Mojowatcher]

From now on I will answer plausible questions as regards physics and philosophy.

This is to avoid deflection from the agent provocateurs.

Let's stick to the issues. For those who are mathematically incline please talk to me in private. Let us not confuse the people and the beginners further.

[greenapple6000]

It is the guide to figuring out puzzles and why Galileo, Newton and Einstein are said to be the greatest physicists.

^^

I can't say whether they are the greatest. They are only the greatest according to our generation. I'm sure there are other civilizations in the past who have intellectuals that have already discovered what they have discovered. Its just that works can be lost or destroyed easily when civilization vanish. What is left are just clues on their ingenuity on the ancient ruins.

Just because they are ancient doesn't mean they don't have the intellectual ability or the engineering capability of modern times. I'm quite positive they have mathematicians, physicist, chemist, architects, engineers, and astronomers. They sure know how to plot the stars and know which ones are the planets. They know how to build cities and large structures (pyramids). They know how to move tonnes of boulders several hundred miles away which even led our own modern engineers clueless.

We claim Galileo first discovered the planet Saturn, when in fact, the ancient were the first ones to draw the ring of Saturn. Which only means they have already engineered a telescope. Why are our historians dumb? Why do they ignore the archeological evidences? The ancients even know how to use bio-fuel by using cow dung and putting it in a metallic container to cook their meals. Instant LPG.

What I am all saying is that, do not discount the ancients. They are as good as our modern scientist, if not better, far from being primitive.

[Mojowatcher]

Greenapple thanks for joining in.

That quotation should be Newton, Maxwell, and Einstein as the greatest theoretical physicists of 17th, 19th and 20th centuries. I am sorry for that typo error.

I fully agree with you on your observations. And you have good questions. Thus, I listed in some of the questions I have enumerated previously, when did the intellectual struggle to understand our universe actually started?

Of course, no one knows yet thus there are many speculations going around even as the ancient alien astronauts theory came back again with their recycled ideas.

In reality, this question on when the intellectual struggle really started was one of the issues i tackled in my book because it add up to the great confusion. On the one hand, the oldest vision asserts that the intellectual struggle started with them.

On the other hand, the philosophical materialist regard only the Great Ionian Awakening because of their uniqueness. According to this view, the first great revolution in human thoughts occurred in 600CE that was led by Thales of Miletus.

If you are following my postings I mentioned that the intellectual struggle to understand the universe started even before the oldest vision of the religious priests of the Babylonian Marduk.

The recognition that the ancient pioneering scientists of the Great Ionian Awakening is due to the available written records. There is no doubt that they started practically all kinds of philosophies, and then to what we know now as science.

For example, the words atom, electric and dialectic were invented by the great Ionians like Democritus, Zeno, and so on. There are more than two dozens of them.

In fact, the last great Ionian was Hypatia, the librarian of Alexandrian Library, a woman scientist, philosopher, mathematician who was killed by Christian mob at the urgings of the Bishop Cyril, and who later became a saint.

Hypatia was a supporter of Aristarchus, who advance the idea of the helio-centric theory. Our knowledge of the ideas of Aristarchus are second hand because all the books of the Ionians including of Homer were burned at the urgings of Plato.

We know now that it was Aristarchus who advance the helio-centric idea (helio is greek for sun) because he was ridiculed by Archimedes one of the loyal follower of Aristotle. Thus, Galileo said, Copernicus was just the "confirmer" of the sun-centered theory of Aristarchus.

In fact, this was made into a film starring Rachel Weiss.

[Mojowatcher]

Ironically, philosophers are like women who have wonderful instincts about many things, they can discover everything real or imagined, except the obvious. And the new keepers of the two competing visions in the world of science are no exception.

Because of entanglement they link their discoveries to creation, thus, even if the universe is obviously not interested in its beginnings, the keepers are unable to cut their links to the traditional way of looking at things.

The keepers of the two competing visions told us that common sense is no longer reliable in science, however, because it always makes sense to start from the beginning we must view and portray the universe in accordance to the doctrine of creation of the oldest vision.

However, we know now that the two so-called competing visions and their variant tools or frameworks of approaches have reached their limits. They both hit a brick wall, thus, the creation mojo.

So, if the keepers are in dilemma it is because they cannot abandoned a universe that is described by a scientific theory that was rooted out of the basic doctrine of creation of the oldest vision.

[Mojowatcher]

According to the keepers we should always view the eternal expanding universe idea in the traditional way even if it’s no longer consistent with observations because it’s always makes sense to start from the beginning. However, we should view the time slowing down and length contraction as counterintuitive events as describe by relativity because in these particular cases they are not link to creation.

In addition, according to the keepers we should also view the quantum events such as the sub particles being in two places at the same time or the quantum events that sometimes causes precede effects or vice versa and sometimes causes and effects are simultaneous as counterintuitive events also because, according to the keepers, in these particular cases they are counterfactual and we must discard them.

As I’ve shown, we have a peculiar situation wherein the basic doctrine of creation is completely intertwined in a scientific theory.
This is the crux of the problem of the keepers of the two competing visions, thus, they are stuck.

And because they suppress all other approaches or any other philosophy such as the new theory of knowledge the world of science under the totalitarian regime of the rulers in the world of science will be forever stuck with the basic doctrine of creation. And the intellectual struggle will never move on and advance to the next stage with the totalitarian policy of the keepers.

[Frank_Macky]

As I’ve shown, we have a peculiar situation wherein the basic doctrine of creation is completely intertwined in a scientific theory. This is the crux of the problem of the keepers of the two competing visions, thus, they are stuck.

And because they suppress all other approaches or any other philosophy such as the new theory of knowledge the world of science under the totalitarian regime of the rulers in the world of science will be forever stuck with the basic doctrine of creation. And the intellectual struggle will never move on and advance to the next stage with the totalitarian policy of the keepers.

So enough beating around the bush already and tell us exactly what this "next stage" of thinking is about.

1) You describe the current philosophical paradoxes of science in a fairly accurate manner so as to whet people's interest.

2) However, you put some unsavory ingredients such as "keepers" involved in a conspiracy to suppress your supposed "new vision" (which up to now is vaporware) - 99.999% of the time such tinfoil-hattery is a red flag for either a loonie, scammer or wanna-be cult starter.

3) If by the two competing visions you are talking about Newtonian space and time versus Einsteinian spacetime, there is nothing new here and they are NOT competing. All the best evidence is already in favor of Einstein. Newtonian space and time is alive only because our everyday language fools us into accepting its metaphysical assumptions - we already know that the universe does not work that way.

Regarding 2), I'm not sure what your goal is, maybe you yourself are not sure what you want to accomplish. But it is obvious that the communication is one-sided...

When people request clarifications for what exactly it is you are saying, rather than trying to understand and address the questions directed are you, you just keep on regurgitating the same old stuff and ultimately avoid the hard questions. I'm here to make sure that the questions are asked to prevent people from falling into the tarpit of your assertions that do nothing but keep going around in circles.

Or maybe you really do have something interesting and important to say, except you need to polish your writing skills a bit more... or maybe forget the dramatic flourishes and just explain things more directly.

And finally, having a sock puppet (such as greenapple) does not do much to convince people as to your sincerity or credibility.

[Frank_Macky]

But it’s great news! Physicists can finally put their worries now. The much awaited entirely new framework of approach that they have long been waiting for is finally here. They so hate mojowatcher because the new cosmic approach is a clear and presents danger to their authority!!

Like this statement is so much BS. If this "new cosmic approach" is valid, people will welcome it.

But frankly, out with it! Because all this beating around the bush is convincing us that you're just a somewhat more comprehensible version of timecube.com

[Mojowatcher]

Before we go to the Keeper Paradox

Thanks for reminding me. As the saying goes high IQ is not an armor against error. I want to to rectify an error made: The call to unite against the suppression of the disquieting facts should read.

The well meaning people (or humans, and not ape-man) scientists, physicists must unite now to expose and oppose the totalitarian keepers in the world of science.

(Nalilito kasi ako sa isang logo ng tao kanya naisulat ko tuloy mali.) Aliens are excluded also.

As mentioned in my postings in the Big Bang thread, there is an intellectual suppression by deflection. That's if you have the intellectual capacity. If you recall I mentioned in the same thread this is the domain of theoretical physics.

If Einstein's entry into the world of science was through the backdoor of philosophy mojowatcher's entry is right through the front door of the keeper's entanglement with philosophy.

[Mojowatcher]

The Keeper Paradox
Before summarizing, let’s be cleared on two important points. First. We all know that we should not abandon science yet I asked you. And I gave you my answer. My intent is really to make you aware of the real central issue of survival, and emphasize the disquieting fact of the entanglement of the keeper with creation.

Second. As mentioned in my introduction, true science takes terrible beatings too. It is not difficult to differentiate between true science and pseudo-science. Astrology is pseudo-science while astronomy is true science.

The real scientists like engineers, physicians, pharmacists, physicistsastrology, horoscope, and so on , cosmologists, astronomers, optometrists, chemists, and so on aren’t only trained in the scientific method of thinking, they based their decision making process from concrete physical evidences, makes scientific theories or laws and are supported by mathematics to make accurate predictions.

Pseudo-scientists of astrology, horoscope, zoo-diac, and so on make inaccurate prediction to entertain and or make money. This is now fully abandon even by the Church.

Of course, there are scientists who have been corrupted now particularly in the environment sector, they capitalized on FEAR to get donations, thus, I agree with pgUp. This is another split between the well-meaning scientists and the corrupted scientists. That’s over and above the other splits like the deflecting camp and survival camp, the split in philosophy, frameworks of approaches, the split in physics, as in relativity and quantum physics.

Now let's go to the realities, or some of the given.

The Puzzles in Physics
You are familiar now with the fundamental puzzle in physics –the entanglement with creation of the ruling keepers. It is also the principal internal contradiction. The external contradiction is the so-called accelerating expansion of the universe.

The Solutions
If you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend the Twin Paradox and the Grandfather Paradox you can comprehend the totalitarian Keeper Paradox.

The Twin Paradox is only a paradox if you have absolute time at the back of your head. The Grandfather Paradox is only a paradox if you can prove that time is a location.

As pointed out, in the “Time Experiments avoided the Grandfather Paradox” because they didn’t go back to time.

The Keeper Paradox is only a paradox if you only have the two competing visions at the back of your head, meaning entanglement with creation.

The best proofs of entanglement with creation have already been enumerated. They were entangled because they decidedly rejected the new theory of knowledge for the sake of the basic doctrines of the two competing visions.

The definitions of terms have already been stated and clarified as regards the two competing visions and their respective conventional tools of philosophical idealism and mechanical philosophical materialism. In addition, you are familiar now with the new theory of knowledge or dialectical philosophical materialism.

We know now the internal and external principal contradictions are about the framework of approach (philosophy), and the accelerating expansion of the universe, respectively.

The accelerating expansion of the universe so-called is only a mystery if you have only two competing visions at the back of your head like the keepers.

So, therefore, the new theory of knowledge or the NCA is the solution to the internal and external principal contradictions at this stage of the intellectual struggle, thus, I said the solution is paradoxical like the Twin Paradox.

[Mojowatcher]

If as you claim you're a physicist be prepared on some mental exercise to clarify the conflict between Newton's gravity and Einstein's gravity theory.

I will give you time to review.

[Mojowatcher]

Hey guys! I really like this guy. He has the guts. But I really understand why the physicists aren't coming out. They are so technical, they discarded the new theory of knowledge, aren't fully equipped, thus, my distinct advantage.

As I have shown, the philosophy of my opponent is cluttered, very confused and incomplete. He is, nonetheless, worthy of an opponent. And at best, a substitute of theoretical physicists. (Oh lord, I don’t want to do this. But what can i do? You gave me a bull.) Ay mali, bully pala!

Anyway, as an aid to the confusion that was unleashed by the opposing view let’s postpone the topics I mentioned earlier. Let’s have a brief review of some of the best arguments vs general relativity.

Most of the physicists I know of are familiar with these arguments.

[Mojowatcher]

Some said that there is an anomaly when they send spacecrafts in deep space. According to scientists of NASA it is easier to use Newton's gravity in charting the course of spacecrafts such as the Cassini. You wanna know why? The approximate of general relativity is Newton’s gravity.

I have also two other argument from scientists. But others, please contribute in the discussion. Nevertheless, these kinds of arguments usually evolved from the overconfidence and ignorance of the philosophical idealists and materialists about the laws of contradictions of the new world outlook or the NCA). They could deflect us from the real central issue.

First. Although the theory of relativity fits well with the laws that govern electricity and magnetism, it wasn’t compatible with Newton’s law of gravity. This law said that if you change the distribution of matter in one region of space, the change in the gravitational field would, be felt instantaneously everywhere else in the universe.

Not only would this mean you could send signals faster than light (something that is forbidden by relativity), but it also required the Absolute or Universal Time that relativity had abolished in favor of personal or relativistic time.

Second. Einstein told us that matter cause’s space to curve, but if energy and matter are balance, there is no curvature—and the universe is flat. This implies a contradiction of the theory with reality. That’s assuming you aren’t familiar or can’t imagine yet the strange or counterintuitive things that should happen when you go beyond human scales. PLEASE NOTE THE WORD COUNTERINTUITIVE. Repeating this word is deliberate.

What are your views on this regard?

[Mojowatcher]

You should know that you write better than me. Any other language you speak and write just well?

Me, I speak 4 languages, English and practical Deutch. A little bit of Spanish and 3 local dialects.

[Mojowatcher]

Do you believe in destiny?

What about synchronicity?

Are you a determinist?

Just wanna know.

[Mojowatcher]

Do you realize that we are actually making history here?

These physicists are missing a lot!

We're the only two people in the entire planet Earth of the Universe talking and sharing. Even as we disagree I still admire you of your excellent and analytical mind.

Be yourself and it will all work fine!

We gave them the chance, we made the calling but they don't want to come out of their shells. It's their choice. But you made a choice.

As we will see, you are actually talking and exchanging views with the greatest physicist of the 21st century.

Do you realize that now?

Just relax.

[Mojowatcher]

As mentioned in one of my postings here in this site philosophy and physics aren't that hard to grasp.

Most physicists are so technical they are what the keepers made them.

They really don't know what we are talking about here because it is the new physics. They cannot find it or google it anywhere but in this site from me alone. So, let's make a good story and make history!!

Let's stick to the issues!!!

You are right about your observations. Repetition is deliberate as in sublime messaging.

Do you know what is the greatest mistake of Albert Einstein in his life?