Should we abandon science now?

[Mojowatcher]

Before we continue on the lessons of the paradoxes, i think it is worthwhile to clear the definitions on the issue of economics.

The keepers and the kudzu conceal realities?
Because of the prettification of images on the part of the keepers and the kudzu to conceal some realities in the world of science and economics it is apparent that there is confusion on definition of terms. And so it is worthwhile to post the following abstract from my book. This was actually taken up in my previous posts.

Figuring out why science is stuck turns out to be a trickier task than grasping its key concepts. But, certainly, not as trickier as to why the US and its allies adapted the neo-liberal globalization thrust. The unbridled self-interest or greed is inherently built-in this kind of monopolistic economic system. Thus, its propensity of greed is not difficult to see on why they pushed the so-called “free market” globalization: to accelerate the accumulation and concentration of capital in the hands of the kudzu monopoly capitalists.

As we all know, it is not the goal of monopoly capitalism for an equitable distribution of wealth or to really lessen the gap between the rich and the poor. It was invented precisely to accumulate wealth in the hands of the few kudzu monopoly bourgeoisies. So, in order to achieve this it has to cover its true objectives and the reality of its control to maintain its rule as a class. At any rate, they still claim that greed is good, right, thus, it is not illegal in our society.

Despite the gross incapacity to provide solutions on the crisis in economics the kudzu monopolists has been successful in concealing the reality of its class dictatorship in using the petty bourgeois’ language. They describe their ruling political system as “liberal democracy” but when its class dictatorship is threatened in being over thrown they opt for the writ of habeas corpus and martial law. I’ve already explained this in my other posts in other threads of this site that this is stipulated in by-laws of the constitution.

And to conceal the reality of monopoly capitalism the kudzu monopoly bourgeoisie describes its economic system as “free enterprise” or “free market” economy.

But just as the kudzus have been very successful in prettifying in describing its political and economic systems, the keepers have been quite successful too in this regard, thus, the confusion. Even as they are entangled with creation they are deflecting the general public from the real central issue. Some said that science is devoted to free inquiry. If so, how come the ruling keepers are trying hard to suppress the new theory of knowledge?

[Mojowatcher]

Where is the free enterprise leading us to?
Just as the totalitarian keepers are incapacitated to provide solutions to what stuck it the kudzu monopolists have likewise manifested the gross incapacity to solve the chronic cycle of economic crisis of its monopolistic economic system. So, despite their dreary states (economics and physics) they have been quite successful too in concealing facts and deflecting the people away from the real central issue of survival.

Let’s take for instance the most recent financial meltdown. Some said that they are responsible in making the people of the world terribly suffer due to rising cost of basic commodities and in creating massive unemployment. This view says that even as they have used all sorts of monetary and fiscal incentives for the monopoly firms in an attempt to revive the economy, it is merely bringing the world further to more depressing chronic economic crisis.

They claim that such incentives and massive bailout packages are government intervention and so it is not capitalism—but socialism. If you’re not aware of the classical development of economic systems you would conclude that there is revisionism in both capitalism and socialism.

At any rate, no one knows what they did is right. Yet, it is official—the Great Recession— is over for now until the next financial bubble. Some asked where it would be next time. But the more important question that remains is: where to the “free enterprise” leading us?

As mentioned, the kudzus have already managed to sell in bottles and containers the free abundance of life. And because they have shown the gross incapacity to resolve this chronically stricken economic cycles that promotes the unbridled self-interest and greed I feel the reality of a new world conflict that will lead to more invasion and aggression, racism, fascism and so on and eventually to world war.

The other important question is: where is science and technology leading us to?

[Mojowatcher]

Let's continue with the part 2 of Zeno meets the new era of science.

The Lessons of the Paradoxes
If some people find the ideas of Parmenides and Zeno very strange, meaning very uncomfortable ideas it is because they contradict the common sense belief that it always makes sense to start from the beginning. The first thing to do is to be easy on them to avoid confusion and deflection to the real central issue in our intellectual struggle.

Just as the Twin Paradox support and defend the Einstein view of a personal relativistic time in a universe that has a beginning and end in time and space the Zeno’s paradoxes support and defend the Parmenidian view of a timeless universe. This view upholds the idea of a universe that has no beginning or end in time and space. The Twin Paradox is only a paradox if you have absolute time at the back of your head. Zeno’s ideas are only paradoxical if you have the beginning of time at the back of your head.

Just as the superstring (string theory) supports and defends the Einstein view of a universe that has a beginning and end in time and space, amazingly, the mechanical quantum theory of gravity likewise essentially supports the same Einstein universe. That’s the crux of the confusion.

As pointed out, they cannot cut their links to the traditional old views because of their complete entanglement with creation. So, therefore, the lesson of the Keeper Paradox is very clear. The keepers support and defend the Einstein view of a universe that started off with a big bang and is expanding like an inflating balloon ready to supernova glory.

The Keeper Paradox is only a paradox if you have the two seemingly competing visions (philosophical idealism and mechanical philosophical materialism and their derivative tools) at the back of your head. As we will see, the philosophical materialist scientists aren’t even aware of their being engaged into creation, thus, the surreptitious philosophical idealist scientists became more audacious!

Is there a truth in their claim that the opposing quantum gravity theorists are so mechanical in their approach? Let’s find out.

[Frank_Macky]

^ Do you have a title for your book yet?

I suggest: THE BROKEN RECORD

[yaridude]

In fairness umabot sa 20 pages yung thread... padagdag pa itong comment ko :P

[PgUp]

The other important question is: where is science and technology leading us to?

You should search the term nincompoopery and then discuss the Maoist attempt to remove science and technology by replacing it with social controls for a cultural revolution. Historically, such controls failed and what China takes pride in today is whatever had been deprived of them during the stagnation phase of the revolution.

[Mojowatcher]

The String Theory is the theory of multiple creation
Franky, that was good thinking! So, after all you remember what I told you. We are just trying to find the full spectrum of realities. And finally, you got the point. Indeed it is a broken record of the keepers of creation.

From the ancient keepers’ up to the present new keepers, it is creation. However, as shown, whether it was from the religious priests of the Babylonian Marduk or the Thales type of ancient Ionian Greek philosophy type creations there is a counter opposing idea of no creation. Of course, just as Aristotle missed the point of the paradoxes of Zeno the new keepers sadly missed them.

Thus, the chief difference now of the most brand new keepers is that the string theorists have multiple creations. That’s the meaning of the Witten equations. Witten is the most high profile and pioneer of string theory. His revolutionary math shows how to design many universes, and therefore, multiple creation.

[Mojowatcher]

I don't know up to know what is your purpose pgUp. You don't know what your talking about. At least the keepers, the kudzu, and the memes have contributed in the human enterprise development but you? You should clear that up.

[Frank_Macky]

The String Theory is the theory of multiple creation
Franky, that was good thinking! So, after all you remember what I told you. We are just trying to find the full spectrum of realities. And finally, you got the point. Indeed it is a broken record of the keepers of creation.

Errr... what I meant was that YOU are the broken record here.

You just keep yakking the same old stuff over and over again. After several thousand words and 20 pages, you have failed to develop your thesis. You may have posited some intriguing questions and points, but those were essentially expressible in at most 10-20 paragraphs, and after a couple hundred or more paragraphs you have not really said anything new beyond that.

I'm sorry, you may be good at math and physics, but you truly suck at writing.

[Mojowatcher]

In that case, so be it.

A broken record story of creations
If you think the thread I started has no thesis so be it. And if I sounded like a broken record playing the broken record story of creation, so be it.

The reality is that the story of the keepers looks to me also like a broken record playing the story of creation over and over again, and therefore, confusion.

But if in the last century the story of the Einstein universe was a story of a single creation of the universe today it is a story of the multiple creations of universes. Therefore, it is also a story of the keepers multiple confusions and multiple entanglements with creations.

If the repetition is deliberate it is because theirs is deliberate repetition, too. If that is their intent, that is my intent as well, repetition is deliberate here!

[Frank_Macky]

^ Yeah, well it is getting tedious reading the same old thing over and over again...

It started out very promising but it got extremely boring after 20 humongous pages because nothing new is being said at all.

[PgUp]

You can be free and a captive at the same time.

That normally happens when a person is fond of speaking with a FORKED tongue or indulging in insincere talk (snow job).

[paenggoy]

That normally happens when a person is fond of speaking with a FORKED tongue or indulging in insincere talk (snow job).

No, it just normally happens, with the U.S. serving as an example.

[stifbend]

Wow! Tibay naman ng thread na ito. Malahalimaw na 20 pages tapos halos araw araw pa. Di lang yun, mukhang on the spot pa eh.

[chizmojo]

What happened to the guy TS?

[ManilaBreed]

good reads @mojowatcher

from which book is this?

I also read some books of Hawking, Carl Sagan and of course Michio Kaku.

[gotta lick it]

man is destined to destroy his own race.
just look how historians categorize the signifcant eras. there are the stone age, bronze age, iron age, atomic age and etc etc. mostly are associated with tool or weaponry.

for every scientific step in advancing human life, mankind also jumps in creating the ulitimate weapon for mass destruction.

[happyman]

For some reason this thread reminds me of Donnie Darko. But here's my take: this is TS's attempt at relativizing/subjectivizing science. Framing science into a largely unsubstantiated narrative with themes of elitism and subjecting it to dialectic. The issue he raised---apparently he is imposing on scientists what they should study and how they should study it----goes against the very nature of the scientific enterprise. He is basically calling himself wise and the entire community of physicists fools? Although it has happened before in the history of science that the community of thinkers/scientists was proven a fool by a single thinker with genuine insight. That happened very rarely and when it did the proof to their claim constituted not in rhetorical prose or dialectical diatribe but in a coherent mathematical argument or an elegant experiment. As in the case of Galileo contradicting Aristotle's account of falling bodies, Pasteur demolishing "spontaneous generation" with his experiment on modified bottles, Koch demonstrating germs as agents of disease, Wohler destroyed "vitalism", Einstein destroyed the concept of "ether", Godel destroyed the logicism of Russel/Hilbert, Hubble and Lemaitre's big bang contradicting Einstein and Aristotle's "constant universe", the guy who won the nobel prize for drinking a cup of Helicobacter pylori to prove that the germ caused ulcer---etc. In all cases, their outstanding claims were substantiated by outstanding proofs.

[Mojowatcher]

Thanks for your observations. No I am not imposing any view. If you have read my posts I am not asserting or imposing. As a matter of fact, I mentioned that a timeless universe would be the correct approach at this juncture. But if you can show a single evidence I rest my case.

Unlike the two old and obsolete frameworks of approaches, the NCA is revolutionary in the sense that it is coherent, consistent and comprehensive. It provides solutions to all the contradictions and conflicts.

[Mojowatcher]

It is not my problem.

When I refer to the NCA as revolutionary I am not exaggerating. It is an entirely new way that is coherent, consistent, and comprehensive. It resolves all the contradictions and conflicts (old and new puzzles) internal, as well as, the external contradictions that stuck the keepers of creation in the world of science. So, therefore:

It is not my problem if you do not understand that science is simply a tool in our intellectual struggle to understand the universe.

It is not my problem if you do not understand that science was invented for our survival and not to find how the universe started off, or the beginning of time.

It is not my problem if you do not understand why the keepers of creation have changed the real central issue of survival to creation.