Career Plans; Do you have one?

[robert_s_huxley]

Start your own business. Don't aim to be a corpo slave!

I know of some people whose businesses went under.
What then?

[msaber69]

Managerial
staff --> supervisor --> manager --> sr manager -->
Executive
AVP --> CIO / CTO

[percy_jackson]

prorammer trainee > junior programmer > mid-level programmer > senior software developer > lead developer (i'm here now, after almost 5 years)

then, save and invest early, then retire early as a multi-millionaire... don't want to climb the corporate ladder, rather i'll retire early as multi-millionaire and let me harvest the fruits of my investments -> LOI (living on interest)

[doughgee]

The top management took a glimpse of our everyday work. They saw how the Project Managers and Consultants work. Now they are considering to redundante the PMs.

[subsonicsky]

May I make some comments?

1. There are jobs and companies in which the saturation point is much, much higher than 50,000. So choosing this option really isn't that bad. It really depends on your priorities and your specific situation.

2. If you're aiming to climb the high tiers of the corporate ladder for money, fame and prestige, I can guarantee you that you won't get very far. Since you've been given an opportunity to take on an influential leadership post already, I suggest you begin by reading "The Secret" by Ken Blanchard to set your mind on the correct path when it comes to leadership and management.

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[SanDiego]

Yes, mas madaming demand for workers than managers. But there also a few supply of managers. So basically, balanced pa rin.



Are you saying that you're contented being a senior member? What if your team leader resigned and replaced with a fresh guy (not necessearily with MA or MBA) but younger than you. Mangihihinayang ka ba kung bakit hindi na lang ikaw ang ipinalit considering na 1) mas alam mo na yung ins and outs ng job and 2) you are exceptionally performing well on your job? I think for me, this a big issue knowing my worth in my company. There are even instances na why in the world I have this boss? I could even perform better than him.

I'm not contented to stay on being a senior member. It's just that kung experience lang ang magiging habol ko sa pagtanggap ng manger position, magdadalawang-isip muna ako since pwede ko rin naman makuha ang experience at basic skillset ng isang manager kahit na hinid ko tanggapin ang offer. To answer the question, hindi ako manghihinayang regardless kung mas bata o mas matanda ang ipapalit sa lead/supervisor/manager/etc. ko if the person was chosen after proper selection and screening. That person deserves it. Whether if I perform better than him/her is also out of the question.
A lead is not necessarily the best among the team.

You will still be part of top management should you wish to take the technical ladder right?

This might depend on the nature of one's work but in my case, magkaiba pa rin sila. That's why hindi pa ako makumbinsi na piliin ang managerial ladder dahil meron pang alternative. Assuming that from being a senior member e wala nang ibang option but to take supervisory/managerial posts, that's the time that I will accept the offer dahil wala na rin naman akong ibang pwedeng puntahan.

[subsonicsky]

There are even instances na why in the world I have this boss? I could even perform better than him.

Magkaiba ang skill set ng manager at skill set ng individual contributor. If you were performing excellently as a team member, it's not a guarantee that you will be made a manager.

Also, seniority does not dictate promotions.

I really recommend that you guys read "The Secret" by Ken Blanchard. Para maliwanagan kayo kung ano talaga yung role ng mga manager sa organization. Hint: hindi sila taga-bantay, hindi sila taga-utos.

[percy_jackson]

halos gusto sa top management...

What's up with "The Secret"?

Its more of "mind conditioning", and its applicable to all sort of matters in life. ah, iba *** na "The Secret" ang alam ko... hehehe

[subsonicsky]

^ Basahin mo na lang. Kahit hindi ka manager ngayon, useful pa rin siya.

Clue: No, it's not about mind games and using mind tricks to make people do what you want.

[Flyunzipped]

^ San ba makakabili nyan yung dito lang satin? Nakita ko Amazon e, baka mahal ang shipping.

[subsonicsky]

^ San ba makakabili nyan yung dito lang satin? Nakita ko Amazon e, baka mahal ang shipping.

Sa Powerbooks meron. While you're there, bilhin mo rin yung "The One Minute Manager", 100 Pesos lang. If you feel you're going to be assigned to leadership roles soon, do your future subordinates a favor and read books like that. Don't fall into the mistake of thinking na madadaan mo lang yan sa "stock knowledge" at natural intuition.

I know of some people whose businesses went under.
What then?

You try again, and again, and again. Most successful entrepreneurs didn't make it big on the first try. If your business fails, pick yourself up, learn from the experience, and try again.

[robert_s_huxley]

You try again, and again, and again. Most successful entrepreneurs didn't make it big on the first try. If your business fails, pick yourself up, learn from the experience, and try again.

although some don't have the luxury of unlimited capital to simply try "again and again" in a business. Starting a business is a high risk / high reward endeavor.

<insert quotes from "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" i.e. the Bible of business minded people>

[voltstagger]

yung "The Secrets" na libro at movie, tingin tingin lang sa net, lalo na sa torrent

[subsonicsky]

although some don't have the luxury of unlimited capital to simply try "again and again" in a business.

No one does. But then again, no one should ever go "all-in". You need to always have a Plan B. You should know exactly what to do in case things don't go well, and you should always set aside some emergency cash for that possibility.

If your current venture fails and you were prudent enough to set aside some resources so that you'd be able to bounce back up, then you would be able to use the wisdom from your failed venture and hopefully improve your next.

Alternatively, you might choose to work in an office environment again for a few years, mag ipon ng pera, and then try your hand again with a new venture.

Of course, I'm not saying it's easy. Madali lang magsabi ng "try and try again" pag nagsusulat sa forum, but I do realize that it's harder done than said. There will be a lot of hardship and sacrifices to be made, but do look forward to getting a good reward for perseverance.

[Flyunzipped]

Sa Powerbooks meron. While you're there, bilhin mo rin yung "The One Minute Manager", 100 Pesos lang. If you feel you're going to be assigned to leadership roles soon, do your future subordinates a favor and read books like that. Don't fall into the mistake of thinking na madadaan mo lang yan sa "stock knowledge" at natural intuition.

Gusto ko sana yung ebook, meron na ako nung 1 Minute manager na Ebook bigay lang sa akin. Pero hindi ko pa nababasa.

yung "The Secrets" na libro at movie, tingin tingin lang sa net, lalo na sa torrent

Nagtry na ako pero wala akong nakitang The Secret. Siguro hanap hanap pa ako ng maigi. :-)