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  1. #1

    Limbo

    may basehan po ba sa biblia ire?

    bakit po tinanggal na ang Limbo sa paniniwala ng simbahang Katoliko pagkatapos po ng halos dalawang libong taong paniniwala dine?

    naway mayroong makatugon sa aking mahirap na katanungan salamat po!

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    may basehan po ba sa biblia ire?

    bakit po tinanggal na ang Limbo sa paniniwala ng simbahang Katoliko pagkatapos po ng halos dalawang libong taong paniniwala dine?

    naway mayroong makatugon sa aking mahirap na katanungan salamat po!
    Oo nga noh biglang inalis ang aral na iyan, sino ba yaong Pope noong panahon na iyan si Pope John Paul parin ba ?

  3. #3
    ah wala na ba yan? Di ba dyan dapat napupunta yung mga unbaptized sanggol na namatay o yung mga fetus na inabort?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    may basehan po ba sa biblia ire?

    bakit po tinanggal na ang Limbo sa paniniwala ng simbahang Katoliko pagkatapos po ng halos dalawang libong taong paniniwala dine?

    naway mayroong makatugon sa aking mahirap na katanungan salamat po!
    Ilan pa kaya ang tanggalin at idagdag? ***** di marunong yung mga unang dumagdag nyan kaya inedit ng isang marunong ngayon.

    Gaya ng, documents di ba? iniedit muna, bago ipasa, pero naipasa na nila ei bago e edit.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Godfearingman View Post
    Ilan pa kaya ang tanggalin at idagdag? ***** di marunong yung mga unang dumagdag nyan kaya inedit ng isang marunong ngayon.

    Gaya ng, documents di ba? iniedit muna, bago ipasa, pero naipasa na nila ei bago e edit.
    ay opo! ang masaklap pa po ay inabot po ng libong taon bago pa po namalayan na mali po sila. napagtanto po nila ang kanilang kamalian kung kaya po tinanggal na po nila subalit para pong anino iyan na bubuntot buntot sa kanila.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    ah wala na ba yan? Di ba dyan dapat napupunta yung mga unbaptized sanggol na namatay o yung mga fetus na inabort?
    Parang abrogated na ang aral nilang iyan ito po ang link ng nasabing balita.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/p...o-7185032.html


    Pope explains why he is ditching limbo


    Pope Benedict XVI will today announce the scrapping of a centuries old Roman Catholic belief that of limbo.
    According to church teachings the souls of unbaptised children who die enter this state between Heaven and Hell.

    All this week thirty senior church figures have been attending a meeting at the Vatican of the International Theological Commission led by cardinal William Levada.

    Cardinal Levada is head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith and the commission has been meeting on and off since called by the late Pope John Paul II.

    His successor Pope Benedict is known not to be in favour of the concept which has been part of Catholic teachings since the Middle Ages.

    In 1984 when Pope Benedict was Cardinal Joseph Raztinger he was asked his views on limbo and said: "It is a theological hypothesis. It is linked to the cause of original sin but many babies die because they are victims."

    Vatican insiders aid yesterday that the commission and the Pope will report back the fact that even if not baptised "all children go to heaven."

    The Catholic Church is aware of the fact that Muslims believe that all children go to Heaven and given the current tense state with Islam will draw on this fact when it issues its conclusions on Friday.

    Although there is no basis for it in Scripture the traditional answer is Limbo, from the Latin limbus, meaning a hem, edge or boundary.

    It is described as the temporary resting place of "the souls of good persons who died before the resurrection of Jesus" (limbus patrum) and the permanent home in the afterlife of "the unbaptised who die in infancy without having been freed from original sin" (limbus infantium).

    The most recent Catholic teaching on limbo dates back to 1905 when Pope Pius X stated:"Children who die without being baptised go to limbo, where they don't enjoy God, but don't suffer either, because whilst carrying the original sin they don't deserve paradise but neither do they deserve Hell or purgatory."

    In the Middle Ages and the Renaissance limbo was great focus for writers and artists.

    Dante in the Inferno described it as the "first circle of Hell" while painters such as Giotti used it for several of their works.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by tomenjeri View Post
    may basehan po ba sa biblia ire?

    bakit po tinanggal na ang Limbo sa paniniwala ng simbahang Katoliko pagkatapos po ng halos dalawang libong taong paniniwala dine?

    naway mayroong makatugon sa aking mahirap na katanungan salamat po!

    Alam mo ba na sila ngayon ang gumagaya sa aral namin sa Islam, basa.


    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/p...o-7185032.html


    In 1984 when Pope Benedict was Cardinal Joseph Raztinger he was asked his views on limbo and said: "It is a theological hypothesis. It is linked to the cause of original sin but many babies die because they are victims."

    Vatican insiders aid yesterday that the commission and the Pope will report back the fact that even if not baptised "all children go to heaven."

    The Catholic Church is aware of the fact that Muslims believe that all children go to Heaven and given the current tense state with Islam will draw on this fact when it issues its conclusions on Friday.

    Although there is no basis for it in Scripture the traditional answer is Limbo, from the Latin limbus, meaning a hem, edge or boundary.
    Malinaw na naniniwala ang mga namumuno sa vatican na tama ang paniniwala ng Islam tungkol sa mga bata na sila ay deretso sa langit

  8. #8
    Well from now on that's good news to the babies who are to die. The church scrapped limbo and suddenly they're going to heaven directly! Yey!

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Well from now on that's good news to the babies who are to die. The church scrapped limbo and suddenly they're going to heaven directly! Yey!
    Aywan ko ba kung saan nila napulot ang aral na iyan, gayong kung ibabasi naman natin sa bibliya nila ay ganito ang nakasaad patungkol sa mga bata.

    King James Version (AV), Matthew 18

    1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

    2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


    Naulit naman iyan sa chapter 19.

    Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

  10. #10
    Original sin? What is that?

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by neospy View Post
    Original sin? What is that?
    Sa tingin ko maski iyan ay wala parin sa bibliya

  12. #12
    ngayon ko lang nalaman to ah, kala ko ba infalliable ang pope? infalliable sa mga tinuturo nito? so binago na pala ayos naman yun hihi,

  13. #13
    tingin ko yung original sin eh yung pagkain ni eba at adan sa apple ay este accidenteng pag browe sa files ng alien. heheehehe

    tingin ko lang. hehehe

  14. #14
    basta eto lang ang limbo na alam ko

    yung limbo ata yung laro yun na may stick tas nag bebend yung mga players tapus each round pababa ng pababa yung stick. hehehe

    eto yung limbo na alam ko hahaha

    http://www.lipacitycolleges.net/pics%5Clb2.jpg[/QUOTE]

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  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by doombot View Post
    tingin ko yung original sin eh yung pagkain ni eba at adan sa apple ay este accidenteng pag browe sa files ng alien. heheehehe

    tingin ko lang. hehehe
    Walang original sin doon, pagsubok lang ng Diyos sa kanila iyon kung susunod sila o hindi.

    Malinaw naman ang sabi sa bibliya nila na ang kasalanan ng ama ay hindi kasalanan ng anak at ang kasalanan ng anak ay hindi kasalanan ng ama...

    Hindi makatuwiran ang Diyos kung idadamay niya ang walang kasalanan.

  17. #17
    Sa tamang pagintindi mas kasuklam suklam ang ginawa ng mga tao ngayun kysa ky adam. Si Adam nalinlang ***, yun ang pagkamali niya, kaya under discipline sya. Si adam kung sa sanggol bagong panganak pa *** pero yun talaga dapat maging matatag siya para hindi malinlang ng babae, gaya ni solomon. Ang kailangan nila patience, yan ang kulang sa kanila at ikumpara kasuklamsukalam ang mga tao ngayun. bakit ituro mu ky adan ang kasalanan? Ang namana *** natin ky adan ay ang madali tayo malinlang.

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Godfearingman View Post
    Sa tamang pagintindi mas kasuklam suklam ang ginawa ng mga tao ngayun kysa ky adam. Si Adam nalinlang ***, yun ang pagkamali niya, kaya under discipline sya. Si adam kung sa sanggol bagong panganak pa *** pero yun talaga dapat maging matatag siya para hindi malinlang ng babae, gaya ni solomon. Ang kailangan nila patience, yan ang kulang sa kanila at ikumpara kasuklamsukalam ang mga tao ngayun. bakit ituro mu ky adan ang kasalanan? Ang namana *** natin ky adan ay ang madali tayo malinlang.
    Tama ka diyan brad mas kasuklam-suklam talaga sapagkat ang pangyayari kay Adan at Eba ay isang pagkakamali lang na kanila naman pinagsisihan.

    Kaya nga mali iyong aral na ORIGINAL SINS

  19. #19
    Sometime ago, my uncle's family lost their newborn child unbaptized. When the infant died, nobody knew how to do an emergency baptism. It was their first child and the thought that the poor child was adrift alone in limbo broke their hearts. Their distress on this sad scenario was even more painful than the actual death of the child.

    I think the RCC should apologize for the needless pains of anxious parents due to their erroneous teaching about Limbo.

    In a hundred years, it will be conceded that Hell does not exist either and another apology will be warranted.
    Last edited by Ateo; Apr 24, 2012 at 03:29 AM.

  20. #20
    ay sana po maperpek na po ng inpalibol papa ang paniniwala ng simbahang Katoliko upang huwag na po malito ang mga Katoliko ano po?

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