Salary for CPA's that graduated from UP BAA course.

[mocotillard]

It is not good enough then kasi hindi quantifiable.

Naalala ko tuloy ang Korte Suprema ng Pilipinas. Marami silang inaapply na "sufficiency tests" without quantifying anything. lol.

Ok, sige, since Eng'g ang kursong kinuha mo, malamang sa malamang ay hindi mo kaagad makukuha ang sinasabi ko.

[mocotillard]

hehehe.. Inapply ko lang yung sinabi mo sa non-UP Pinoy and I find it really weird.

Basically, the expectation is bigger for UP grads. The reason for this is that the quality of education given to UP grads is superior to the ones given to alumni of other state-funded schools. Hence, the amount of taxpayers' money spent for UP matters is bigger.

Anyway, no one's mentioning other schools in this thread, much less comparing them with UP, other than you, which basically makes your argument, if there's such, irrelevant.

[mocotillard]

Pardon, pero hindi ba dapat sa ibang thread ito pinag-uusapan? Medyo irrelevant na kasi sa tanong ni TS.

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Nagulat lang ako at si TS ay may ibang thread siya tungkol sa salary at job security ng career ng Engineering graduates.

I think he ought to know all these this early on.

[huntfan02]

Basically, the expectation is bigger for UP grads. The reason for this is that the quality of education given to UP grads is superior to the ones given to alumni of other state-funded schools. Hence, the amount of taxpayers' money spent for UP matters is bigger.

Anyway, no one's mentioning other schools in this thread, much less comparing them with UP, other than you, which basically makes your argument, if there's such, irrelevant.

UP BAA grads kaya pinaguusapan dito.. Yun nga eh, based on your reasoning, kung 0.00001% lang ng tax ang contributionmo sa BIR, wala kang right na mag-expect ng services from the government. immaterial ka kasi eh from the standpoint of the government. I wonder at which level of contribution ka pwedeng mag-expect ng services from the government. At sino kaya ang nandun sa level na yun?

[huntfan02]

Naalala ko tuloy ang Korte Suprema ng Pilipinas. Marami silang inaapply na "sufficiency tests" without quantifying anything. lol.

Ok, sige, since Eng'g ang kursong kinuha mo, malamang sa malamang ay hindi mo kaagad makukuha ang sinasabi ko.

Explain it then. Para ma-assess ko kung papasa ako sa dyan sa test mo.

[icewind21]

What are you talking about guys?

[count210]

I get the point of everblue. besides, uso naman sa ating mga Pilipino ang "utang na loob" na custom. If we use it for personal matters from now and then, the more I think we should for the nation. Hindi naman talaga ito obligatory because it is not being imposed by UP but morality-wise, we should remember how our quality education is being funded by the people. Oo nga, taxpayers naman talaga ang parents natin pero iilan lang ba sila sa buong populasyon ng Pilipinas? Hindi pa nga ata aabot ng .0001%. lol.

I admire those UP grads who, even though they grew up poor (and thus, have more reasons to dream becoming ultra rich), still try to contribute to the development and welfare of the society. I think if we're going to use the "utang na loob" custom that is so ingrained in our culture, our nation should be its foremost beneficiary.

Luma na ang capitalistic point of view. Lots of countries are now gearing towards socialism. Oo nga, ang bawat isa sa ati'y hindi naman gobyerno and, hence, that doesn't apply to us as private individuals. Pero, hindi ba "sovereignty emanates from the people"?

.nakuha mo lahat ng gusto kong sabihin. ang galing mo.

TS,if ever you'll make it and graduate from UP,sana naman magstay ka muna at magtrabaho dito sa pilipinas ng mga ilang taon bago ka lumayas papuntang abroad. Kawawa naman ang pilipinas. Totoo nga yung brain drain. Yung magagaling umaalis tapos yung naiiwan ay yung latak or yung walang kakayahang mag abroad.

Sana naman pati yung mga nag abroad eh bumalik sa pinas after some years. Sayang utak nyo eh mga dayuhan lang ang nakikinabang. Yung bansang inyong pinaglilingkuran ang patuloy na yumayaman pero ang pilipinas patuloy na malulugmok sa kahirapan.

[icewind21]

salamat sa mga feedback niyo pero sa ngayon count210 magfofocus muna ako sa pagrereview para pumasa ako sa UPCAT. Sana makapasa ako. Wish me luck guys!

[mocotillard]

UP BAA grads kaya pinaguusapan dito.. Yun nga eh, based on your reasoning, kung 0.00001% lang ng tax ang contributionmo sa BIR, wala kang right na mag-expect ng services from the government. immaterial ka kasi eh from the standpoint of the government. I wonder at which level of contribution ka pwedeng mag-expect ng services from the government. At sino kaya ang nandun sa level na yun?

nope. you're clearly attacking a straw man.

of course you have the right to expect quality services from the government. duh. pero dahil gutom ako ngayon, i'd rather eat na lang than explain something to a troll na mukhang kahit ano'ng gawin ko'y hindi naman sasang-ayon sa mga pinagsasabi ko.

[huntfan02]

^ no you dont, based on your 0.00001% argument. kahit nga access na nga lang sa government sevices eh hindi din pwede.

[icewind21]

Any BAA graduates out there?

[senorcarlito]

Mababa sa Audit firm, kahit big 4 pa yan. Less than 20k makukuha mo. Pero maganda yung experience. Burnout lang pag audit lalo na pag busy season.

[icewind21]

Anong klaseng firm po ba marerecommend mo senorcarlito?

[olivegarden]

sorry. gusto ko talagang umepal. mocotillards' and everblues' reaction "struck me" (to quote them).

first of all, we are a democratic country(debating about the merits of a democracy is irrelevant in this discussion),
mocotillard, wala sa place mo ang mag-dictate ng utang ng loob sa isang tao. THAT IS CONSIDERED RUDE IN MANY CULTURES.
karamihan sa mga pilipino talaga, mahilig mangwenta.

second. paying something forward is a person's prerogative.
give, but don't expect to receive, ikanga.
if you really are the politically-correct thinker you think you are, you SHOULD agree with me.

third. don't forget that TAX IS ALSO AN OBLIGATION OF THE TAXPAYER. HINDI YAN FAVOR. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN SAY 'HEY, WALANG PAKINABANG ANG MGA UP GRADS HINDI NA LANG AKO MAGBABAYAD NG TAX.'

i repeat 'TAX IS A RESPONSIBILITY'

fourth. everyone reserves the right to decide for himself(in this instance, his future), and kahit selfish reasons pa yan, wala tayong magagawa.
what if i have ten children to send to school? am i going to prioritize 'bayan' over 'family'? lets be realistic, since this idealism is misplaced. i love the philippines and all, but i also love my luxuries. i have a right to my luxuries. and, serving the people does not have to mean working in a government office or spearheading some charity.
simply showing excellence in one's field, locally, or abroad, is a great service in its own.

Filipino's need to think deeper into their idealisms. They need to think more! please, KABABAYANS THINK DEEPER!

again, it is rude to point out to somebody na may 'utang' siya.

i'm not going to hold myself back because of this imaginary and misplaced 'utang na loob'.

the concept of 'utang na loob' does not exist in this context because AGAIN, tax is an obligation, not a favor. for the retards who still need intellectual direction, let me make it clear. 'utang na loob' is for favors, and paying tax is not a favor, it is a responsibility, an obligation, a part of the constitution, the mother of all laws that govern our land.

kaya sa mga trolls na nagrereklamo na 'inaaksaya tax ko sa UP' belat na lang sayo. wala kang magagawa dong.
gasayang sayang ra kag laway sa imong reklamo, ga binogo jud.


THINK CRITICALLY FELLOW FILIPINOS! I BEG YOU!

[olivegarden]

sorry for being off-topic, but i just had to say something about the 'UP students-owe-the-filipino-people' and 'tax-is-a-favor-to-the-government' arguments. it really peeves me.

[icewind21]

It's okay, I for one enjoy reading most of the comments found in this thread hehe.

[senorcarlito]

Depends. If you want Audit, go with SGV. I think they give the best training. Oh, but if you want to Audit banks and other financial institutions, I recommend KPMG. They have a separate department (division, or whatever) that handles Audit of banking and financial institutions. Just recently, they were able to obtain HSBC as an audit client. O dba?

If you want tax or advisory, then consider other firms. I heard P&A is good in tax? Not sure. PwC or deloitte in advisory? Not sure also. Haha

[senorcarlito]

If you really want hardcore consulting/advisory, try MMG, FTI consulting, Credit Suisse, McKinsey.
Hardcore nga lang din ang application

[senorcarlito]

Nadoble yung post and I don't know how to delete. Haha

[johnjoseph13]

sorry for being off-topic, but i just had to say something about the 'UP students-owe-the-filipino-people' and 'tax-is-a-favor-to-the-government' arguments. it really peeves me.

Ganyan talaga pag infected ng TIBAK mentality. Grabe sila pagdating sa self-righteousness pero sila din yung magkakaripas sa paglipad palabas ng bansa kung may pagkakataon lang.

Tawag dyan HYPOCRITES!