[MERGED] Philippines vs. China and the Spratlys Situation

[R3'91]

Yung video parang habulan base lang. Kaso nasa dagat. At barko ang gamit.

[LaputotoyDacocoy]

We'll gonna WIN!

[mazodan]

how the f**k do we refute this???

[Xanax]

isinuko na pala ni pnoy ang panatag island, tuwang tuwa mga chinese e

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/404...out-from-shoal

[mazodan]

isinuko na pala ni pnoy ang panatag island, tuwang tuwa mga chinese e

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/404...out-from-shoal

Calm the f*** down, they got this

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06...-ships-panatag

[IKARROS]

Calm the f*** down, they got this

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06...-ships-panatag

wag kasi masyadong atapang kasi baka mapahiya at mabahag ang buntot. wala nang rerespeto sa iyo niyan.

gulo yan pag pati yung iyong nasasakupan eh pumalag na rin kung nakikitang wala kang firm decision.

[prEttyInDistr3ss]

Calm the f*** down, they got this

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/06...-ships-panatag

hahahaha...

sabi ko na nga ba eh.. the Phil ship have to withdraw due to the weather.

[commoner]

At least may excuse ang government kung bakit sila nag pull out. They were just waiting for the right time.

Like I said, one side will have to back down and yes, that will be us.

Life goes on folks, no war, no sea battle. Sorry to upset all the die-hard war freaks who want to go against China.

[andresbonifacio2]

http://i.imgur.com/BIHaa.jpg

how the f**k do we refute this???

The refutation was already discussed earlier in this thread.

You should consider this in light of the extent of what these Chinese claims are (in effect it is a full blockade of ENTIRE international sea lanes).

If in theory if we are going to surrender to China, the Philippines will be the only one to surrender to China. Even in Taiwan, who has just implemented an offensive missile defense system against China has, the dominant opinion is the Senkaku (which is just beside Taiwan) belongs to Japan.

[andresbonifacio2]

hahahaha...

sabi ko na nga ba eh.. the Phil ship have to withdraw due to the weather.

Why do we have people like this in Pinoyexchange? This is so supposed to be Pinoy "exchange" not Pinoy-bashing. Insults and mocking Filipinos even in times of natural disasters?!

Look at the PeX members who are pro-Beijing: prEttyInDistr3ss, MissFugliness (who is so like prEttyInDistr3ss, even active when prEttyInDistr3ss is not active), and shooter_mcgavin.

shooter_mcgavin is unique because his claim to "moral authority" in harshly criticizing Filipinos is based on a measly tax obligation in a locally based company that SERVES China. At least prEttyInDistr3ss or MissFugliness is openly doing it with pure hatred. Sigh...

[jpd74]

pababalikin kaya ang ating mga barko duon once na umalis na ang bagyo ..

[trigger349]

[PExky]

Nasaan na ang BRP Gregorio del Pilar? Nasaan na ang ating precious high endurance cutter?

[Objection]

https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252308_3321292081480_186078563_n.jpg?dl=1

Malay mo nag pa resupply lang

[mazodan]

The government is now looking to buy new equipment,

I do suggest that we upgrade our anti-air capabilities with ground support aircraft,
investing with turboprops and rockets might be a good idea as it is cheaper (if done right we can survive chinese air attacks)
I went to an international forum and asked what aircraft should we buy, listing the suggestions.

F6F Hellcat
Swedish Gripen.
SU-27.
F-18 Super Hornet.
Yak 130. (light attack/ground support)
F20
fokker Dr1. (we need a blue baron)
Modernized MiGs or Sukhoi
Panavia Tornadoes
Russian Attack helicopters

[andresbonifacio2]

Imagine the tactical possibilities in favor of China's military. Even our police escorting congressmen were OUTGUNNED by their private guards.

Upon arriving in the area, the two lawmakers, escorted by policemen armed only with pistols, were confronted by heavily armed men.

In the news: SC stops leveling of Zambales mountain
Source: http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...bales-mountain

In this case kudos to a Agham partylist Rep. Angelo Palmones and and Laguna Rep. Danilo Fernandez for doing their job!

[albertus magnus]

Sinabi ni Erick San Juan sa radyo na nagplaplano na naman ng bagong 9/11 sa Malampaya daw para magtrigger ng kung anong WW3 sa South China sea. Part of a bigger plan daw itong pagpunta sa mga Abu Sayaff ng foreign journalist na Al-qaeda kuno pero see-ay-eh. Timing daw na naka close ngayon ang Malampaya. Suspect daw ang negotiation para ma extend ang lopsided contract ng Malampaya na malapit nang ma expire at mapunta ang total control nito sa gobyerno. Dapat daw ay gayahin ng Presidente ang ginawa ni Hugo Chavez ng Venezuela na nationalization at pagkakaruon ng 50/50 sharing o hatian sa kinikita. Habang sa Malampaya, less than 10 percent lang ang napupunta sa PNOC at kinakaltasan pa ng mga upkeep at kung anu anu at pinaggastusan pa natin sa bulok na barko de gyera habang ang mga masisibang foreign consortium ay tibang tiba sa mga kinikita.

Imagine the tactical possibilities in favor of China's military. Even our police escorting congressmen were OUTGUNNED by their private guards.



In the news: SC stops leveling of Zambales mountain
Source: http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...bales-mountain

In this case kudos to a Agham partylist Rep. Angelo Palmones and and Laguna Rep. Danilo Fernandez for doing their job!

Sabi ni Angelo Palmones, wala daw itong business permit at DENR approvals etc pero bakit ang lakas ng loob nilang gaguhin tayo. Harap harapang ginogoyo tayo.

Nanakawan na naman tayo ng likas yaman para iprocess yan sa China habang wala tayong halos makukuhang mga revenue dyan habang walang habas sa pag alipusta sa ating environment.

[victoryliner]

US supports PHL initiative to settle Panatag Shoal dispute in intl court
June 21, 2012 5:41pm

A US official on Thursday said Washington supports the Philippine initiative to resolve the dispute between Manila and Beijing over Panatag Shoal through legal means.

The US government also backs the adoption of a Code of Conduct regarding the area also known as South China Sea, US ambassador to the Philippines Harry Thomas told reporters during Thursday’s Kapihan sa Embahada.

The code, currently being refined by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), would impose legally binding guidelines on the use of the disputed area.

Both proposals are being opposed by Beijing which asserts bilateral negotiations with all claimants to all or parts of West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), including Brunei, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Philippines.

China’s claim is based on its nine-dash line that, in turn, is based on part of the 1947 map with which Beijing declared ownership over 90 percent of South China Sea.

US not taking sides

Thomas said the US position is not partial to any of the claimants. “We take no sides in this territorial disputes as we are also partners of other claimant countries,” he said.

“We want all parties to sit down… and we oppose coercion of any nation. We support the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea…” the ambassador noted.

Joy Yamamoto, political section counselor and acting deputy chief of mission of the US embassy in Manila, echoed Thomas’ statement.

“We have been very consistent throughout this dispute in supporting international law in settlement of dispute, so we continue to support China and the Philippines to settle the issue through international means,” said Yamamoto.

Long-term commitment

On the perception of US partiality toward the Philippines, with Washington providing Manila with military equipment, Thomas said, “We don’t try to speak for the Philippines or any nation.

“US is firm in its commitment for peaceful resolution of conflict and the cross cutting claims.”

However, the US has reaffirmed its long-term commitment toward its long-time ally when President Benigno Aquino III met with President Barack Obama in Washington earlier this month, the ambassador said.

China and the Philippines are still in a standoff over Panatag Shoal, which started last April. —Anna Mae Lamentillo/VS, GMA News


source:http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...-in-intl-court

[victoryliner]

China says Vietnam claim to islands in West Philippine Sea 'null and void'
June 21, 2012 6:20pm


BEIJING - China on Thursday "vehemently opposed" a Vietnamese law asserting sovereignty over islands in disputed waters, the latest escalation in tensions over the resource-rich South China Sea (also called West Philippine Sea).

The row comes days after an easing in a months-long standoff between China and the Philippines, but shows the persistent cycle of territorial frictions triggered by what some see as Beijing's growing assertiveness in the area.

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Zhijun summoned Ambassador Nguyen Van Tho and told him that Hanoi's new law claiming the contested Paracel and Spratly Islands was a "serious violation" and called for an "immediate correction."

"Vietnam's Maritime Law, declaring sovereignty and jurisdiction over the Paracel and Spratly Islands, is a serious violation of China's territorial sovereignty. China expresses its resolute and vehement opposition," Zhang said, according to a Foreign Ministry statement.

The law was null and void, Zhang said, adding that China would "resolutely defend" its sovereignty. "China demands the Vietnamese side ... not do anything to harm relations or the peace and stability of the South China Sea."

Vietnam's National Assembly approved the law on Thursday. It says all foreign naval ships passing through the waters must notify Vietnamese authorities.

China has conflicting claims with the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan across the South China Sea, key shipping lanes thought to contain rich energy reserves. Vietnam and the Philippines have been the most vocal opponents of China's claims.

In the past few days, both Beijing and the Manila cited bad weather after pulling back vessels from a two-month stand-off near the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal, a contested group of rocks in the sea.

But China has spent nearly $1 billion on an ultra-deepwater rig that appears intended to explore disputed waters.

The South China Sea is potentially the biggest flashpoint for confrontation in Asia, and tensions have risen since the United States adopted a policy last year to reinforce its influence in the region.

Chinese Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo told Communist Party mouthpiece the People's Daily website on Thursday that China was well able to fight back in case of any provocation.

"Our navy has the absolute ability and the absolute confidence to use arms to defend our country's sovereignty, territorial integrity and maritime rights ... We're just waiting for the order," he said. — Reuters

source: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...-null-and-void

[prEttyInDistr3ss]

The government is now looking to buy new equipment,

I do suggest that we upgrade our anti-air capabilities with ground support aircraft,
investing with turboprops and rockets might be a good idea as it is cheaper (if done right we can survive chinese air attacks)
I went to an international forum and asked what aircraft should we buy, listing the suggestions.

F6F Hellcat
Swedish Gripen.
SU-27.
F-18 Super Hornet.
Yak 130. (light attack/ground support)
F20
fokker Dr1. (we need a blue baron)
Modernized MiGs or Sukhoi
Panavia Tornadoes
Russian Attack helicopters

niiiiiice!!!


daming nagugutom sa kalye tapos inuuna pa yun laruan...



baka si andresbonificaio mag bigay ng charity para dito sa laryan na to... he claims he has a coconut business here.