[MERGED] Philippines vs. China and the Spratlys Situation

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http://www.philstar.com/nation/artic...ticleid=807292

US submarine emerges near disputed shoal
By Jaime Laude Home Updated May 15, 2012 07:11 PM 2 comments to this post



The arrival of Virginia Class fast attack submarine USS North Carolina (SSN-777) came amid a tense territorial standoff for more than a month now between the Philippines and China in Panatag Shoal, a rock formation 124 nautical miles from mainland Zambales.

“The crew is proud of our recent contributions as part of our country’s commitment to maintaining freedom of navigation, peace and stability in the region,” said Cmdr. Richard Rhinehart, North Carolina’s commanding officer, in a press statement released by the United States-Pacific Command (USPACOM).

[b_9904]

namatay lang sila dahil may nag traydor sa kanila tinuro kung saan sila lilikuran pero kung walang nag traydor madedefend nila ang gates kahit 1 month pa yan.

Read about the REAL history behind this story HERE and HERE

If you want a better source look for History Channel's episode about the battle.

[mrbones525]

hindi pala na post yung reply ko kanina, anyway artistic license lang yung effect ng traitor na yun. di naman yata ganun kalaki mababago kahit head on yun labanan. hindi rin accurate source yung movie like what b_9904 pointed out

[b_9904]

http://www.philstar.com/nation/artic...ticleid=807292

US submarine emerges near disputed shoal
By Jaime Laude Home Updated May 15, 2012 07:11 PM 2 comments to this post



The arrival of Virginia Class fast attack submarine USS North Carolina (SSN-777) came amid a tense territorial standoff for more than a month now between the Philippines and China in Panatag Shoal, a rock formation 124 nautical miles from mainland Zambales.

“The crew is proud of our recent contributions as part of our country’s commitment to maintaining freedom of navigation, peace and stability in the region,” said Cmdr. Richard Rhinehart, North Carolina’s commanding officer, in a press statement released by the United States-Pacific Command (USPACOM).

And China will spin this by saying the US is ESCALATING the tension.

[b_9904]

hindi pala na post yung reply ko kanina, anyway artistic license lang yung effect ng traitor na yun. di naman yata ganun kalaki mababago kahit head on yun labanan. hindi rin accurate source yung movie like what b_9904 pointed out

A better example is Britian vs Germany during WWII.

Or perhaps Russie vs Germany, with specific emphasis on Stalingrad.

[adonga23]

mahirap kalabanin ang mga ******..
baka mamaya nyan , mag declare ang mga ****** na tigil negosyo kahit for 1 week lang....

paktay tayo nyan... tambay lang tayo sa bahay

[bier_trinker]

Wala akong alam sa maritime law kaya di ko alam ang chances kung makukuha natin siya legally. Pero worst scenario e ibigay na lang natin. Wala namang choice e.

[handshake]

^^^ bat naman siguro ****** boss mo? hahaha

[handshake]

Wala akong alam sa maritime law kaya di ko alam ang chances kung makukuha natin siya legally. Pero worst scenario e ibigay na lang natin. Wala namang choice e.

kung wala ka rin lang alam wag ng magpost. Kasi 1 sided ang opinyon mo hehehe.

[MissFugliness]

lol.... while the Philippines is still all talk... the Chinese have made their first step... tagal nasa gilid lang ng Pinas yun Shoal na yan..wala naman kayo nagawa... eto na, naguumpisa na mag trabaho china.. wanna send ur resume there? lol




Chinese South China Sea Oil Rig Workers Take Helicopter to Work

by Joel on Saturday, May 12, 2012


South China Sea Oil Platform Workers Take Helicopter When Starting/Ending Shift

China’s first independently designed and constructed drilling platform “Ocean Oil 981″ has succeeded in its first drilling operation in the South China Sea. Photographers visited and photographed the platforms’ 160 workers, who are required to work 28 days before taking a helicopter back to land to change shifts. The platform has in total 76 living quarters as well as recreational facilities and a communal kitchen.

The drilling platform is currently 320 kilometers southeast of Hong Kong, and workers on the the platform need to take a helicopter for over two hours.





There are 76 living quarters equipped with bunk beds, private bathrooms, televisions, and telephone and Internet.



The laundry room, which has staff responsible for cleaning clothes.



Oil workers are having a meal, consisting of 14 courses.

more pics here

http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/pictu...r-to-work.html

[Dacs]

Why don't we just push China to take the issue to UNCLOS and let them decide?

If they decide in favor of China, we have to respect that.

If they decide in our favor and China used force to take over the island, the US will have all the reasons to invoke MDT.

[gUy^]

ayaw nga ng china.. gusto nila is kunin na agad yung island, ayaw din nila makialam ibang bansa tungkol sa issue. kaya nga tayo binubully..
alam naman ng china pag idaan sa unclos yan pabor sa atin ang decisyon

[Peter►]

ayaw nga ng china.. gusto nila is kunin na agad yung island, ayaw din nila makialam ibang bansa tungkol sa issue. kaya nga tayo binubully..
alam naman ng china pag idaan sa unclos yan pabor sa atin ang decisyon

I just want to ask, just curious because wala akong alam sa international law.

So when it comes to this kind of dispute, walang jurisdiction ang UN? if YES, so walang silbi ang UNCLOS? ganon ba ka inutil ang UN? Dapat nga sila ang mediator lalo na UN member ang countries involved.

[gUy^]

wala din akong alam sa ganyan sir.. hindi ko napag aralan yan hanggang managerial course lang ako hehe...
sa akin lang ay sa palagay ko lang ayaw ng china dumaan sa tamang procedure. kaya ayaw nila makialam ang usa.

[Peter►]

I just want to ask, just curious because wala akong alam sa international law.

So when it comes to this kind of dispute, walang jurisdiction ang UN? if YES, so walang silbi ang UNCLOS? ganon ba ka inutil ang UN? Dapat nga sila ang mediator lalo na UN member ang countries involved.

anyone? curious lang.

[Dacs]

Kaya nga dapat yun ang pursigihin ng gobyerno natin, idaan sa arbitration kasi parehas may claim ang China at Pinas at mukhang wala sa atin ang mag gi-give way.

[blue_tracer]

for decades, lagi naman may bangayan na sa mga isla ang china + pinas ah. kumbaga nasanay na.

ang problema yata, kesyo katatanggap lang natin ng isang 2nd hand ship pinasugod kaagad ng isang henyo diyan doon sa area na 'yun. kaya na agitate yata ang china.

halus diyan nag intensify mula nang dumating 'yang barko natin. pinagisipan talaga ng maigi ang move na 'yan.

[nu_metal]

Para sa mga ayaw ng gyera diyan, magdasal nalang daw kayo para matapos na ang sigalot na ito.

[R3'91]

I just want to ask, just curious because wala akong alam sa international law.

So when it comes to this kind of dispute, walang jurisdiction ang UN? if YES, so walang silbi ang UNCLOS? ganon ba ka inutil ang UN? Dapat nga sila ang mediator lalo na UN member ang countries involved.

Here's what the DFA has to say regarding PH ownership of Bajo de Masinloc:

Philippine Position on Bajo de Masinloc and the Waters Within its Vicinity

It does mention UNCLOS but it doesn't really say how the UN can come in to decide.

Last I heard PH is trying to bring China to the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea. The little I remember of International Law (way back in college hehe) is that both parties should agree to an arbitration. Kung ayaw ng isa, no deal. Kaya di natin maresolba ang isyu ng Sabah kasi ayaw ng Malaysia. The same with Bajo de Masinloc; kahit gusto natin maresolba ng UN bodies (like ITLOS, I assume), kung ayaw ng China eh no deal.

IMO, the solution right now is pressure from the international community through active diplomatic campaigning by PH.

Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong.

[jpd74]

mas malakas ang influence ng china sa ibang bansa compare to pinas ...
kahit sa asean nations only vietnam ang pumapalag sa china ...
maraming bansa ang gustong makipag kalakal sa china ...
sana noon nandito pa ang mga bases ay naghukay na ang govt ng langis dyan sa spartly at shoal para nakatulong sa ating economy ... ngayon china na ang nakikinabang sa ating langis ...