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Mystery is not something we cannot understand at all, but something we cannot understand by our own reason, without God's revelation.
It is also something we cannot understand wholly, but something we can understand partly. Partial understanding is not total darkness.
"We see through a glass, darkly."
Though the content of the Trinitry doctrine is infinitely mysterious, and not all simple. the motive for believing it is not at all mysterious but realistic. We believe in the Trinity because God reveals it to us.
"It's a mystery..." What a wonderful scapegoat...
When cornered, that's the perfect excuse...
Sorry to disappoint Trinitarians, but you are not being honest to anyone when you come up with such an excuse...
Wala pa ring sagot na diretso sa tanong namin ni tonton?
Without Jesus and the Holy Spirit, is the Father God by Himself?
Without the Father and the Holy Spirit, is Jesus God by Himself?
Without the Father and Jesus, is the Holy Spirit God by Himself?
Until know you INC persecutors has not presented any rebuttal to the statement made by the defense, the Mystery Challenge.
Mystery in argument
God is three persons.
Show that it is not possible for God to be a three persons. Instead of appealing to troll acts!
Refute too their analogy
The defense XIII Liway and Sweet TEA said --- Triangle has three corners
The persecutor INC, atheist and muslim --- the one corner is only the Triangle the two are not.
Are you through with your presentation;persecutors?
Without Jesus and the Holy Spirit, is the Father God by Himself? Yes or No?
Without the Father and the Holy Spirit, is Jesus God by Himself? Yes or No?
Without the Father and Jesus, is the Holy Spirit God by itself? Yes or No?
(I'm referring to each person individually...)
Still no direct answers?
before we discuss Trinity or the triunity of God,
how about we first try to explain God Himself.
can somebody explain who and what God is, completely.
Athea, tatalugin ko para sa 'yo.
Ang Ama ba, sa Kanya lamang sarili, ay Diyos? Oo o Hindi?
Si Jesus ba, sa Kanya lamang sarili, ay Diyos? Oo o Hindi?
Ang Espiritu Santo ba, sa sarili lang niya, ay Diyos? Oo o Hindi?
And Dessa, why are you having a hard time answering the question directly?
Don't tell me you are again thinking about the flaw in this man-made Trinity, yet you are too proud to admit that there is such flaw.
You say there is only one God, but you also said that each person is an individual by themselves individually.
At least, the other Trinitarians here seem to be aware of the flaw the questions we asked expose about the Trinity, hence, the hesitation to answer the direct questions. And, I don't know if it's your intention or honest mistake, but in your haste to prove yourself, you just highlighted the flaw in the Trinity doctrine that is strikingly unbiblical and illogical at the same time.
the Father (a God by Himself) + Jesus (a God by Himself according to Sweet_Athea) + the Holy Spirit (a God by itself, according to Sweet_Athea) = One (1) God?
Hindi ba ninyo napapansin na tinatabunan ng isang trollers ang thread na ito, siguro pakawala iyan para hindi makasagot iyong mga tinatanong
^^^What else is there to expect anyway from someone whose belief has proven to have grave flaws?
She said it herself, there is only one God, yet, she also claims that all three persons are God individually, so it is not difficult to conclude that she is contradicting herself.
syempre naman paano nila kukunin ang doktrina nito sa bible kung may pagmin naman pala sila
in short kung ang mga katoliko ay hindi kayang na identify ang kanilang sarili sa mga simple at buong buo sa primitive christianity?
ano pang aasahan niyong ituturo nito kung itong doktrinang ito eh hindi galing sa gospel of Christ? tapos may guts pang ipaliwanag ang trinity uki payn
huh?! anukaba?! panong magiging nature ng corner ang triangle?! corner nga lang sya e, hindi nga sya triangle, CORNER! engot lang magsasabi na ang corner e triangle!
pwede pa sabihin mo e yung triangle na bakal e hinati mo sa 3, at bawat piraso e corner na ang nature nya e bakal, pareho silang tatlo na bakal ang nature, pero hindi sila triangle na bakal, corner na bakal sila, ganun pa rin mali pa rin; kahit itanong mo na kung lahat ba sila e bakal? oo bakal bawat isa sa kanila, pero hindi sila isang bakal kundi tatlong bakal!
ano pa?! itlog naman, ano?!
ilabas mo lahat ng analogy, dudurugin namin lahat yan!