trinity

[salermo]

when I read what XIII stated, my smile turns into a burst of laughter. His idea is so outlandish to be considered a teaching of christian faith, my steady eyes says your idea is crack and erroneous. Till now your mind believes that your conclusion is supreme to any teaching is what feeds your arrogance.

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there is neither composition of quantitative parts in God, since He is not a body; nor composition of form and matter; nor does His nature differ from His suppositum; nor His essence from His being; neither is there in Him composition of genus and difference, nor of subject and accident. Therefore, it is clear that God is in no way composite, but is altogether simple.

Every composite has a cause, for things in themselves cannot unite unless something causes them to unite. But God is uncaused...since He is the first efficient cause” (ST II.Q3A7).
Saint Thomas says later in that same article that “since God is form itself, or rather being itself, He can be in no way composite.”

mga topak! kung hindi ninyo naiintindihan ang mga terminolgy diyan tumabi tabi na muna kayo at naaalibadbaran ako!

Baka akala ninyo yung essence pabango! The essence or substance is what a thing is, which cannot be changed without changing it into a new type of thing.

E yung accident baka akala ninyo kagaya nang nadapa si mr. clown at bumagsak ang mukha sa Tae ganon ang meaning nun - hindeee! bobo
accident : quality nang essence o substance.

Mga mapupurol ang isip nasaan ba kayo nang magsabog nang katalinuhan ang mga Diwata!

A very profound analysis maybe some won't fathom. Sock it to 'em sweet_athea.

[tonton]

So, make it clear. Since you always keep on saying that the Only True God consist of three persons (Father, Son and HS), can you honestly say that the Father is not God without the other two persons? Or is the Father One God by Himself?

I've asked that before, and it was ignored.

[the700clowns]

basag ka nga natural matatalakay ang konti sa konsepto nang trinity dahil ang pinaguusapan don ang mga persona! Hilo ka ano?

Andame mong mga tinuran na mga basehan pag na corner naman kayo lumalabas ang mga pauli ulit style ninyo bukod pa sa ayaw ninyong isali ang new testament at kay Pablo. Ang tatanda ninyo paurong pa rin ang mga katwiran!

Nauwi raw sa trinity yung thread nila dun komo ba nasopla ang mga INC at mga pugot skull don tatakbo kayo rito. At mag iingay. Anong akala ninyo may arabs spring din dito? Huwag traydor please.

ahehehe talo na nga kayo dun gusto nyo pang isama ang trinity dun ahahaha

buti pa sagutin mo na lang ang mga argumento namin dito.

[the700clowns]

Sabi nung liquid sa gas, "Why have you forsaken moi?"

Pinakamalapit na explanation talaga ng trinity ay ang Three Stooges.

kung ganun, si Moe yung tatay, kasi laging galit, si curly naman yung anak kasi mabait at pasensyoso at pinakabida, at syempre si Larry yung banal na multo kasi extra lang sya dun, wala masyadong rele.

[banimalek]

Kapag ganito ang usapan ay siguradong iiwas iyong mga mahilig magkota (quota) ng mga post sa ibang thread, kung papasok man sila dito ay sisikapin na makapagbaling paksa

Nakakatuwa na kapag hindi tanggap ang kanilang sagot sa ganitong paksa ay sasabihan ka na hindi mo nauunawaan at hindi ka tumatanggap ng sagot

[sweet_athea]

ahehehe talo na nga kayo dun gusto nyo pang isama ang trinity dun ahahaha

buti pa sagutin mo na lang ang mga argumento namin dito.

Ugaling traydor ang thread mo mr. clown hindi mo ba alam iyo?

Kase ang inimbita mo lang sa thread ay mga opinyon nang mga baluktot ang katwiran at iniiwasan mo ang sagot nang nakakalam diyan.

Buti pang naghurumentado ka na lang sa daan kesa kausap mo ang mga sektang ligaw mga ateistang pedopiles mga kapwa mo muslim na small brain at mga pipitsuging arogante gaya ni XIII.

pagusapan natin ang trinity. nauuwi kasi sa trinity ang usapan dun sa kabilang thread kaya dito nyo na lang tuloy

Malinaw ang sabi mo pagusapan lang!

Tuso at hindi ma katwiran, paano mo paguusapan ang bagay na hindi mo alam mr. clown? Itinatanong mo pa sa sektang ligaw, traydor ka talaga ano! Pagusapan lang tsismis? ANO ka hilo!

Kung matino ka ba naman sana humugot ka na lang sa mga statement ko sa thread doon kung nabaling paksa nga sa trinity. Huwag kang asal huramentado clown, Hindi mo yata alam ang kahulugan nag may modo at walang modo!

Bigla ka na lang susulpot dito pag tsismisan ang hindi ninyo alam, masyado kayong duwag para harapin ang mga post ko roon . Puro kayo mga tsismosong troll!

magpost kayo kung bakit sa tingin nyo e tama o kaya naman kung bakit sa tingin nyo e mali.

pwedeng pagbasehan ang bible and logic, sama na rin natin ang history dahil meron iba na sa history mas nagbabase.

Mag post sino? ang mga ignorante at walang alam baket clown takot ka ba sa mga totoong Trinitarian at iniimbita mo ang mga mababa ang katalininuhan? Kita mo na iwas ka, gusto mo lang ang kampon ni sugo, ano ka hilo?

Ganyan ba kayong mga uring muslim makarinig lang nang panira masaya na? Bobong ugali iyan hindi ka aasenso at puro kalaswaan lang ang malalaman mo mr. clown pag ka hindi ka mag-bago!

Wala ka ngang self restraint kahit mag fasting ka pa nang 40 days and 40 nights na kaen! Uli uli ayusin mo ang asal mo!

[sweet_athea]

mga topak! at basag ang katwiran!

[the700clowns]

e pano na yung mga argumento namin?! di mo na nilabanan.

[XIII]

kasi kung individually god sila e lalabas na 3 gods nga yun, kungdi naman e lalabas na hindi god bawat isa sa kanila kungdi kasama yung iba dahil isa lang sila sa persona nung god.

Mali.

The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the persons that compost the Divine Godhead. They are all of them divine yet they are not three Gods because they are the persons that constitute the one God.

Think of it like a person with multiple personalities (though an imperfect analogy ). Every personality within that one brain is a different person but the actual human being remains just a single human being.

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P.S. @sweet

Don't preach to me about Divine Simplicity. Needless to say, you've absolutely butchered your understanding of it (judging by your post). Go read some more and educate yourself.

[sweet_athea]

e pano na yung mga argumento namin?! di mo na nilabanan.

wala ka nga ni isang argumento duling ka ba? puro tsismis lang basahin mo nga ang post mo ulyanin!

[the700clowns]

wala ka nga ni isang argumento duling ka ba? puro tsismis lang basahin mo nga ang post mo ulyanin!

lalabas kasi na 1/3 god lang bawat isa ng persona kasi 1 god lang ika nyo e. kaya mali ang trinity. isa yan sa mga argumento namin.

[sweet_athea]

Mali.

The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the persons that compost the Divine Godhead. They are all of them divine yet they are not three Gods because they are the persons that constitute the one God.

Think of it like a person with multiple personalities (though an imperfect analogy ). Every personality within that one brain is a different person but the actual human being remains just a single human being.

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P.S. @sweet

Don't preach to me about Divine Simplicity. Needless to say, you've absolutely butchered your understanding of it (judging by your post). Go read some more and educate yourself.

Do'nt tell me what to do, you deluded brain! mine are supported by the writings of real theologians, those who really study the art of philosophy. While yours is just a product of your arrogance and ignorance azz! What makes your opinion supreme over the teaching of the teaching church? azz! Who do you think you are A supreme soul with a supreme mind? azz! think first before you post arrogant brain!

I have no other personality than myself, even If I used all the gentle words it will only fall in vain because your a crack of ****! its quite easy for me to determine the lost souls like you.

[XIII]

lalabas kasi na 1/3 god lang bawat isa ng persona kasi 1 god lang ika nyo e. kaya mali ang trinity. isa yan sa mga argumento namin.

Nope. God is not a quantitative nation, it is qualitative. Hindi mo nabibilang ng percentage ang pagiging Diyos. You either have the attributes of God or you do not. Either omniscient, omnipotent at omnibenevolent ko o hindi. Hindi mo nahahati ang pagiging Diyos, clowns.

The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit all share in the Divinity of the Godhead. All of them are omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, immanent and transcendent.

[XIII]

Do'nt tell me what to do, you deluded brain! mine are supported by the writings of real theologians, those who really study the art of philosophy.

Prove it.

Ni hindi ka nga marunong mag English e, magbabasa ka pa ng theology? Dream on! E kahit basahin mo yon, hindi mo rin maiintindihan e.

[sweet_athea]

lalabas kasi na 1/3 god lang bawat isa ng persona kasi 1 god lang ika nyo e. kaya mali ang trinity. isa yan sa mga argumento namin.

topak nga ang logic mo kung ganon! Bakit mo bibilangin ang God ang persona ang binigyan nang bilang topak! Ang analogy hindi nag sasabi kung ano ang Diyos kung hindi para maintindihan mo ang doktrina nang Trinity. Saang lupalop mo ba kinuha ang analogy mo ni hindi mo nga sinabi kung anong uri nang analogy iyan. bobo kumpletuhin mo halatang patraydor ang mga post mo.

[sweet_athea]

Prove it.

Ni hindi ka nga marunong mag English e, magbabasa ka pa ng theology? Dream on! E kahit basahin mo yon, hindi mo rin maiintindihan e.

What shall I prove, you even skip my previous post azz! Ikaw nga ang basag ang katwiran at hindi na ka kaintindi nang theology, Ganyan ba kahangin ang uring hibanghelico na gaya mo!

To readers I believe what this evangelical preach about Trinity doctrine is heretical, so be aware of this duplitious, arrogant shameful feigning christianity which was exposed on his masked off.

Mine are harshed words only for them, which you may not like.When it comes to doctrine rely not on your mind or claimer of supreme conscience but ONLY on what your church teaches.

[the700clowns]

Do'nt tell me what to do, you deluded brain! mine are supported by the writings of real theologians, those who really study the art of philosophy. While yours is just a product of your arrogance and ignorance azz! What makes your opinion supreme over the teaching of the teaching church? azz! Who do you think you are A supreme soul with a supreme mind? azz! think first before you post arrogant brain!

I have no other personality than myself, even If I used all the gentle words it will only fall in vain because your a crack of ****! its quite easy for me to determine the lost souls like you.

komo ba "theologians" yung mga yun e hindi na nagkakamali?! patunayan mo na lang na mali ang sinasabi ni XIII.

[sweet_athea]

komo ba "theologians" yung mga yun e hindi na nagkakamali?! patunayan mo na lang na mali ang sinasabi ni XIII.

bakit ko patutunayan ang mga mix mix niyang truth at lies? Bakit ko naman i po-promote ang mga heretical doctrine niya, Hindi pinag aaksayahan nag mga panahon ang mga liko! Pasalamat ka nga pinag bibigyan kita kahit basag ang katwiran mo.

[Liway_Sang]

The one Divine Nature is the Three Persons, and the Three Persons are the One Divine Nature.

God is not four things: Person, Person, Person, Nature. God is One Nature, and that One Act called His Nature is the Three Persons.

So the Oneness of God includes a Threeness. God is One yet Three. This mystery is only understandable to any created mind to a limited extent.

And the Threeness of God is so full that each of the Three is a Person, who is fully God.

Each Person is co-equal as God. And so, each must be able to exercise, to have full possession and full use of, the one Nature.
--(co equal means they have one Divine Nature, not greatness in personhood.)
For there is nothing of the Three Persons that is not of the Nature, and nothing of the Nature that is not of the Three Persons. Otherwise, God would be four, not three.

Also; The one Act that is God includes the act of the Son proceeding from the Father, and the act of the Spirit proceeding primarily from the Father and secondarily from the Son (in one spiration). --proceeding (is like being sent for)

God is One Nature, and that One Act called His Nature is the Three Persons.

[tonton]

The one Divine Nature is the Three Persons, and the Three Persons are the One Divine Nature.

God is not four things: Person, Person, Person, Nature. God is One Nature, and that One Act called His Nature is the Three Persons.

So the Oneness of God includes a Threeness. God is One yet Three. This mystery is only understandable to any created mind to a limited extent.

And the Threeness of God is so full that each of the Three is a Person, who is fully God.

Each Person is co-equal as God. And so, each must be able to exercise, to have full possession and full use of, the one Nature.
--(co equal means they have one Divine Nature, not greatness in personhood.)
For there is nothing of the Three Persons that is not of the Nature, and nothing of the Nature that is not of the Three Persons. Otherwise, God would be four, not three.

Also; The one Act that is God includes the act of the Son proceeding from the Father, and the act of the Spirit proceeding primarily from the Father and secondarily from the Son (in one spiration). --proceeding (is like being sent for)

God is One Nature, and that One Act called His Nature is the Three Persons.

Kung hindi niyo kayang ipaliwanag tama na.