NCAA bans Lim, Gorayeb for 2 years for brawl; Red Lions players, official suspended

[ungga]

^^ Anong wala pang finding yun? Yung panggugulpi niyo kay coach Gorayeb.

Osige wala pa talagang finding yun.

Sige! Mga tao na nga sa beda ang mababait.

Role models are:

1. Marcelo
2. Frankie Lim
3. Boybits Victoria(heard a news about him on that bar)

Uulitin ko ang sinabi ko! Para matuwa ka. WALANG KABAHID-BAHID NG KABAYULENTEHAN ANG MGA TAGA BEDA!

Ok ka na?!

Alam mo! I'm not saying na lahat ng tao sa Baste ay mababait! Nothing's perfect!

Our difference is we guys admit the mistakes of our school or comrades. We're not hypocrites! Not like you guys.

So again, don't act like almighty na parang walang bahid ng kasalanan ang school niyo!

Icocompare mo yung incident ng kay Pua sa ginawa ng basketball team niyo! Shame on you! What Pua did was just a punch! That's incomparable to what you did on coach Gorayeb! You beat him even when he was down! And worst, magisa lang sya laban sa buong team niyo!

Now, talk about the VALUES of your BELOVED SCHOOL!

Tagal ko ng hindi nakapag-post dito ah.

I'm not from SBC nor SSC-R. Pero ito masasabi ko sa topic na to.

Regarding racial discrimination, Given na nag-chant talaga ng unggoy yung Men's Volleyball team ng Baste, sapat na bang dahilan yon para bugbugin ng Men's Basketball team ng Beda si Coach Gorayeb?

Nung time ni Espinas at ni Andaya, hindi ba nagchachant din naman ang mga taga San Beda ng 'Baluga' at 'Bakulaw'? Anong kaibahan non sa pagtawag ng monkey sa player nila? Bakit ganun na lang kayo makasigaw ng racial discrimination.

Huwag naman sana kayong magmalinis na akala mo mga Santo kayo. Natatandaan ko pa nga yung isang game dati between SBC and Letran, pagpasok ng cheer leaders ng Letran tumalikod lahat yung nasa SBC crowd. (Honestly, na-astigan nga ko don sayang lang hindi kami ang unang nakaisip)

Hindi mawawala yang asaran. Kung minsan yan pa nga ang nagpapasaya sa laro. Pero siyempre ang pikon laging talo.

I agree na medyo harsh talaga ang naging parusa sa SBC, pero hindi naman tayo aabot dito kung hindi kayo naging pikon at hindi niyo binugbog si Coach Gorayeb sa loob ng gym niyo.

[Reptar]

Tagal ko ng hindi nakapag-post dito ah.

I'm not from SBC nor SSC-R. Pero ito masasabi ko sa topic na to.

Regarding racial discrimination, Given na nag-chant talaga ng unggoy yung Men's Volleyball team ng Baste, sapat na bang dahilan yon para bugbugin ng Men's Basketball team ng Beda si Coach Gorayeb?

Nung time ni Espinas at ni Andaya, hindi ba nagchachant din naman ang mga taga San Beda ng 'Baluga' at 'Bakulaw'? Anong kaibahan non sa pagtawag ng monkey sa player nila? Bakit ganun na lang kayo makasigaw ng racial discrimination.

Huwag naman sana kayong magmalinis na akala mo mga Santo kayo. Natatandaan ko pa nga yung isang game dati between SBC and Letran, pagpasok ng cheer leaders ng Letran tumalikod lahat yung nasa SBC crowd. (Honestly, na-astigan nga ko don sayang lang hindi kami ang unang nakaisip)

Hindi mawawala yang asaran. Kung minsan yan pa nga ang nagpapasaya sa laro. Pero siyempre ang pikon laging talo.

I agree na medyo harsh talaga ang naging parusa sa SBC, pero hindi naman tayo aabot dito kung hindi kayo naging pikon at hindi niyo binugbog si Coach Gorayeb sa loob ng gym niyo.

Nabugbog si Gorayeb kasi nanuntok siya.

Regarding sa jeering, yun athletes natin dapat sanay na dyan. Part na game yan.

Pero kapag ginawa sa labas ng game? Jeering pa rin ba yun? Hindi ba naghahanap na ng gulo yun? Kahit si Big Mac magagalit kapag tinawag siyang bakulaw kung naglalakad lang siya.

[LeCrosse]

Gorayeb threw the first punch kaya sya nabugbog. Alamin kasi muna ang root cause.

[AltarBoy^_^]

Given the incidents that happened before and way back before our time, I think the proof that our league cannot control our crowd or our players really gives us a bad reputation. Preventive measures are created or used to avoid such incidents but sometimes we tend to complicate matters that should've been avoided if civility ruled instead of blind anger. And it should be enforced before and after a game as well. I still vote for a major overhaul in the way we watch games, not just rely on arenas preventing people from bringing bottled water because it's a deadly weapon. At least coins are more valuable these days unlike the 80's when pro-leagues suffer from the same hooliganism.

Pointing fingers now is useless since now it happened and we have to deal with it or trivialize it further. Rectifying conduct inside and outside the basketball court is imperative. When it happened to Orbeta, we removed him instantly and made an investigation internally so as not to give the school more humiliation and avoid MANCOM from making further inquiries about the rest of the team and do our own clean-up. Incidents that happen beyond the game are truly disappointing so we try our best to make preventive measures depending upon the situation and we must avoid blowing it out of proportion.

If we value our school, then we must bear the consequences that go with it as a member of this league. Ours began with our team dipping in the stands because we wanted to start fresh after that point-shave scandal and a few other players being suspected of throwing games or gambling. Nothing confirmed after Paolo but I'm glad this team is trying to be a winner again after so many seasons that I would like to forget.

There are rules to follow and we have to abide by it to avoid more humiliation for both parties. And I do believe instigating a fight even in one's turf has serious repercussions. I'm surprised your school didn't do a pre-emptive school investigation and make sanctions to discipline them. After all, they are students first before athletes, and losing your cool even if you're not playing is not an excuse to start a brawl to begin with in your own school. I'm also surprised SSC didn't do its own independent investigation to discipline their ranks. It's like they both waited for things to get worse and say "bahala na, MANCOM muna ito dadaan tapos gagawan namin ng paraan sa korte o CHR kung lugi kami dahil na-insulto player namin."

A lot of people get insulted everywhere in the world from simple IQ trolling here up to the more complicated racial profiling that we conveniently use in the context of a "game" and practice it there for tickling school pride but not outside because we all have feelings, it should be unacceptable wherever it happens because we are in the age wherein almost everyone can see what's right and wrong about everybody else.

And a coach should be the last line of security for his team, and if mediation with the coach does not make progress, security should be there to quell any incident from happening. Then report the incident of racist remarks directly towards MANCOM, not to violate the sanctity of your own home by tarnishing it by reacting violently too instead of doubting the league's integrity to discipline members who erred. If we should go at the heart of this problem like racial profiling, we should all change the way we think about each other and treat each other with civility even beyond the games and tackle issues without harm for one's safety. We should uphold better values for this league to flourish.

And please gentlemen, stay on-topic! Don't deviate by way of counting incidents that happened before and that are regrettable for some schools. It makes it worse by bringing out the best troll techniques you can muster by way of speculations and hasty generalizations. Let's see what the appeal and CHR can do for SBC or SSC filing something besides relying on MANCOM's judgement.

[simon_son]

May values pala?

Sobrang OT na talaga

Values nila?

Ano nga ba?

Balya, oo, marami. On record pa.


Ahihihihihihi......

[simon_son]

Sabi sa inyo magaling analogy ng mga yan pag against sa SBC. Kaso sablay pa din.

Isa lang masasbi ko diyan:

Anal.

Ahihihihi.....

[MakaveliLives]

Kelangan talaga ipagpilitan na binugbog ng BUONG RL team si Gorayeb? Haha!

Imulat ang mata mo sa katotohanan. Una sumuntok si Gorayeb kay Lim at rumesbak si Marcelo. Yung ibang RLs, umaawat lang.

Saka medyo malabo yung hugot ng article about MVP. Haha!

[barbero]

Kelangan talaga ipagpilitan na binugbog ng BUONG RL team si Gorayeb? Haha!

Imulat ang mata mo sa katotohanan. Una sumuntok si Gorayeb kay Lim at rumesbak si Marcelo. Yung ibang RLs, umaawat lang.

Saka medyo malabo yung hugot ng article about MVP. Haha!

passionate lang naman si Gina Lopez kasi hindi nga maganda ang operations ng mining industry dito satin, medyo pinersonal lang niya si MVP. basta may social consciousness ang mga potential mining ventures; yung bang hindi papabayaan yung mga katabing communities at ecosystem, malaking tulong yan para sa income generation ng lugar na yun at pati na rin sa mineral exports at consumption natin.




.... teka ano nga ulit topic ng thread na to? kingina kasi tong si pestengbaste eh

[Underpass]

Kelangan talaga ipagpilitan na binugbog ng BUONG RL team si Gorayeb? Haha!

Imulat ang mata mo sa katotohanan. Una sumuntok si Gorayeb kay Lim at rumesbak si Marcelo. Yung ibang RLs, umaawat lang.

Saka medyo malabo yung hugot ng article about MVP. Haha!

Nakakatawa talaga si pusongbaste ever since nagpost yan dito. Hindi mo alam kung may sense talaga yung mga views niya. Hahaha! Parang kumakain ka ng chopsuey tapos biglang bubuhusan ng lugaw.

Let's be serious now. I agree Frankie should be sanctioned like Gorayeb. But the sanctions imposed on the players are not justified especially on Adeogun and Armon.

Justified ang sanction on Frankie and Gorayeb because they created a brawl. Pero yung sanction sa mga RL players, hindi dapat.

Let the games be decided on the hardcourt and not in the boardroom.

[mystical_prophe]

Alam nyo naman puro kabaklaan lang alam nung pusong baste na yan.

[Big Daddy]

Sa pananaw ko, babaguhi o rerebisahin ng MANCOM ang suspensions sa current Red Lions. Dahil kung hindi, hindi magiging competitive ang opening game with only 6/7 Red Lions available due to the "unjust" suspensions. Pagpaumanhin niyo na ang salitang "unjust" dahil wala naman talaga ginawa yung sinuspinde nilang mga RL players. Nakatayo lang sila at nanunuod sa rambol ni Gorayeb at Lim plus Marcelo.

Historically, the opening game of the NCAA has always been the defending champs versus the hosts. For season 88 San Beda is the defending champs while Letran are the hosts.

Regarding kay coach Lim, sa palagay ko mahirap i-reverse yan. If they will lessen Frankie and Roger's sanction, malamang to one-year lang.


NOTE: San Beda is 6-0 on opening day since 2006. San Beda is 12-0 versus Letran since 2007.

[Reptar]

Lim an Gorayeb will definitely missed some games due to their actions. Hindi biktima dito si Gora tulad ng sinasabi ng iba. Pero 2 years is a bit too much. Half the season ok na.

[pusongbaste]

Sino ba nauna nagpost ng off-topic dito.

Sinagot ko lang din ng off-topic.

Ang gusto nya pagusapan e yung mga banal nyong alumni diba?

O ayan I gave my reply!

A perfect role model: MVP!

Wants to have a license to KILL just in the name of MONEY

Kung kasing g@go lang ako ni freemindballer matagal ko ng pinost yang article na yan. Tagal ko ng nabasa yan e.

[pusongbaste]

And oh by the way.

Walang admission sa part ng men's vball team na tinawag nilang unggoy si Ola.

Ano ba naman magagawa natin kung isipin ng player niyo na unggoy siya?

Hindi naman natin siya masisisi! Muka naman talaga!

[Sonic_Boom]

Balat sibuyas yung import, hindi na nakakapagtaka.

[Reptar]

^^ Sinisi pa si Ola

[mystical_prophe]

And oh by the way.

Walang admission sa part ng men's vball team na tinawag nilang unggoy si Ola.

Ano ba naman magagawa natin kung isipin ng player niyo na unggoy siya?

Hindi naman natin siya masisisi! Muka naman talaga!

Bakla ka lang kamo... mamaya kung kinuyog ka nanaman dito babalik ka nanaman sa lungga mo tapos dun ka puputak parang babae sabay magsusumbong sa Mod... bakla ka talaga...

[simon_son]

And oh by the way.

Walang admission sa part ng men's vball team na tinawag nilang unggoy si Ola.

Ano ba naman magagawa natin kung isipin ng player niyo na unggoy siya?

Hindi naman natin siya masisisi! Muka naman talaga!

Oh, by the way......

So, base sa katwiran mo, dahil sa itsura ng isinusulat mo dito sa hiblang ito, ano nga ba naman ang magagawa namin kung isipin naming engot ka talaga, kahit wala kang inaamin? Andito ang malaking problema.

Hindi mo kami masisisi. Mukha ka naman talaga!

Tugma! COMMON SENSE!

Mr. Witless is now discharged.

Ahihihihihi.....

[iyurts]

Oh, by the way......

So, base sa katwiran mo, dahil sa itsura ng isinusulat mo dito sa hiblang ito, ano nga ba naman ang magagawa namin kung isipin naming engot ka talaga, kahit wala kang inaamin? Andito ang malaking problema.

Hindi mo kami masisisi. Mukha ka naman talaga!

Tugma! COMMON SENSE!

Mr. Witless is now discharged.

Ahihihihihi.....

ahahaha! mukha nga!
COMMON SENSE

[ungga]

Gorayeb threw the first punch kaya sya nabugbog. Alamin kasi muna ang root cause.

Sabihin na nating mali si Coach Gorayeb for throwing the first punch.

Pero kung ako ang nasa sitwasyon ni Coach Gorayeb, hindi ako mananapak ng walang malalim na dahilan lalo ng alam ko na nasa teritoryo ako ng kalaban at ang team na kino-coach ko ay Women's Volleybal Team at hindi Men's American Football Team kaya siguradong dehado ako kung magkagulo.

Frankie Lim must have said something that really pissed Gorayeb.

Again wala ako don nung nangyari ang gulo kaya opinyon ko lang tong mga sinasabi ko.

Let me reiterate that I'm with you regarding the punishment being too harsh especially for San Beda.

Pero sa kabilang banda hindi ba bilang host ng isang event, San Beda should have exercise maximum tolerance. Kayo dapat ang nagoover-see na walang mangyayaring ganitong gulo pero instead nasangkot pa kayo. Kaya siguro ganun na lang din ang naging desisyon ng ManCom.

Hindi ko sinasabi na magpasapak na lang kayo. As I've said earlier hindi naman mananapak si Coach Gorayeb kung walang malalim na dahilan. Isa pa he was already down in the ground pero binanatan niyo pa rin. May mga nasaktan pa ngang mga members ng team si Coach Gorayeb kasi ayaw niyong magpaawat.

Kung si Frankie Lim siguro yung sumapak kay Gorayeb baka medyo katanggap tanggap pa. Pero si Marcelo eh. To think na medyo may edad na si Coach Gorayeb. Sana ginamit niya na lang ang laki niya para awatin ang gulo at hindi makisawsaw pa.